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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by romski123 View Post
    nga pala naiimpress ka lang pag mafeature sa Philstar hehe

    uls naman I wasn't talking about the quantity of the units we produce (which I wont tell you anyway). Babaw mo naman.

    What I was talking about is the Isuzu Microbus. What do you think about it? The Microbus is powered by a 2.8-liter Isuzu 4JB1-TC Euro 2 compliant engine which can seat up to16 passengers. Price is about P1.3M.

    Chassis is Isuzu N-series but the body and interiors are all locally made.

    Wahtchu think? For or against?

    YouTube- Ara Mina on I.M.O. with Mo Twister
    nope, di po ako yung mababaw

    it's you

    napakaliit na bagay big deal na sa iyo

    what's the big deal in building bus bodies?

    somebody else provided the chassis, engine, drivetrain, diff. etc

    it's not like you built the whole thing from scratch

    all you had to do was build the body

    big deal

    that's the only thing locals are capable of anyway

    building motor vehicle bodies

    have to depend on imports for the more important stuff

    so that's what you're bragging about?

    building bus bodies?

    yan ang mababaw

    ano mahirap sa pag gawa ng bus body?

    kailangan mo lang ng latero, pintor, upholsterers

    di naman mahirap makahanap ng mga latero, pintor, upholsterers dito

    magpapasukat ka lang ng salamin para sa windshield, windows

    BIG DEAL

    it's not like you're building a particle accelerator

    what exactly are you after dude?

    this? -->

    takes way more than building a few electric cars and bus bodies to get that from me dude

    some Third World tropical islanders build some electric cars and bus bodies and they feel like they built the Large Hadron Collider



    well, doesnt take much to impress the locals

    the locals all went

    haha

    Last edited by uls; March 27th, 2010 at 01:09 PM.

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    nope, di po ako yung mababaw

    it's you

    napakaliit na bagay big deal na sa iyo

    what's the big deal in building bus bodies?

    somebody else provided the chassis, engine, drivetrain, diff. etc

    it's not like you built the whole thing from scratch

    all you had to do was build the body

    big deal

    that's the only thing locals are capable of anyway

    building motor vehicle bodies

    have to depend on imports for the more important stuff

    so that's what you're bragging about?

    building bus bodies?

    yan ang mababaw

    ano mahirap sa pag gawa ng bus body?

    kailangan mo lang ng latero, pintor, upholsterers

    di naman mahirap makahanap ng mga latero, pintor, upholsterers dito

    magpapasukat ka lang ng salamin para sa windshield, windows

    BIG DEAL

    it's not like you're building a particle accelerator

    what exactly are you after dude?

    this? -->

    takes way more than building a few electric cars and bus bodies to get that from me dude

    some Third World tropical islanders build some electric cars and bus bodies and they feel like they built the Large Hadron Collider



    well, doesnt take much to impress the locals

    the locals all went

    haha

    ayan , that's what i wanted to hear (and expected )from you uls. .

    paints very clearly the way you think. Cheers!

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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    If numbers aren't so important to you, why were you pressing hard to compare numbers in the e-jeepney thread?
    o gh. out of topic yan dito

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    #44
    I hope they will resolve the various issues surrounding MVDP and come up with a win-win solution.


    [SIZE=3]Crack Emerges in Auto Industry Lobby for MVDP[/SIZE]

    Manila Times
    March 29, 2010

    http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php...lobby-for-mvdp

    A CRACK has emerged in the Philippine auto sector after four top assemblers questioned the leadership of the industry group over its position vis-a-vis a government bid to revise its Motor Vehicle Development Program (MVDP).


    In a letter dated March 15, Honda Cars Philippines Inc., Isuzu Philippines Corp., Mitsubishi Motors Philippines Corp. and Toyota Motor Philippines Corp. questioned the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines Inc. (Campi) over its proposal to maintain the current MVDP under Executive Order 156.

    The four Japanese carmakers said they “express deep concern on [a] declaration that Campi is not in favor of the new MVDP.”

    “These matters were never discussed among members of Campi . . . Your letter to President Arroyo created confusion not only to industry players but also other stakeholders in the industry,” the letter signed by Honda Philippines president Hiroshi Shimizu, Isuzu Philippines president Keiji Takeda, Mitsubishi Philippines president Masahiko Ueki and Toyota Philippines president Michinobu Sugata, stated.

    The four Japanese carmakers were referring to a letter Campi president Elizabeth Lee sent to Mrs. Arroyo on March 1, asking that the current MVDP be maintained on fears that the government may reclassify imported used engines and other components from prohibited to regulated imports under the new MVDP.

    Trade Secretary Jesli Lapus last Friday told reporters that the Board of Investments (BOI) had responded to a query from Malacañang’s legal department, which sought clarification on the said Campi letter, as well on another letter from the Fair Trade Alliance (FairTrade).

    In a letter dated March 8, FairTrade requested that the President refrain from signing the proposed EO that will pave the way for the new MVDP, unless it includes a clear program on how to revive the automotive industry;

    includes as members of the proposed auto council all industry stakeholders;

    clearly states that theobjective of this new auto development program is to eventually expand, nurture and develop more the completely knocked down (CKD) operations in the country and not just the completely built up (CBU) importation;

    and strengthens the program against smuggling and/or importation of used vehicles.

    Lapus told reporters that the BOI has maintained that all the prohibitions included in EO 156 were kept, and that those excluded in the earlier order would be regulated under the new MVDP.

    In a separate letter dated March 19 and addressed to Mrs. Arroyo, the Philippine Automotive Competitiveness Council Inc. (PACCI) said “the leading automotive and auto parts manufacturers fully support this new MVDP.

    Besides the four Japanese carmakers, PACCI also includes Ford Group Philippines and the Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MVPMAP).

    PACCI found allies among foreign business chambers.

    In a joint letter to the President, the American Chamber of Commerce of the Philippines, European Chamber of Commerce of the Philippines, and Japanese Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Philippines, along with the National Competitiveness Council (NCC), said “the proposed MVDP is a step in the right direction, and when implemented effectively shall increase the overall competitiveness of the auto and auto parts manufacturing industries in our country.”
    BEN ARNOLD O. DE VERA

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by romski123 View Post
    o gh. out of topic yan dito
    LOL! .. all I see is you obviously avoiding to answer the question here or in the original thread.

    Truth too painful to admit?

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    #46
    Bad news from the local auto industry...I hope the new MVDP will spur the growth of the industry.


    [SIZE=4]Assembly now at only 25% of capacity
    [/SIZE]
    Malaya Business Insights
    March 30, 2010

    http://www.malaya.com.ph/03302010/auto1.html#


    The domestic auto manufacturing industry is currently operating at just a quarter of installed capacity, according to he Philippine Automotive Competitiveness Council, Inc. (PACCI).


    PACCI, composed of the top players in the automotive manufacturing industry in the Philippines, said actual assembly is just [SIZE=3]60,000 units[/SIZE] out of [SIZE=3]250,000 units [SIZE=2]of installed capacity of all assemblers.[/SIZE][/SIZE]


    PACCI noted that the significant decline in thelocally-manufactured vehicles over the last 10 years has resulted in 50 percent loss of direct jobs from 140,000 to about 70,000, including those from parts manufacturing sector in the same period.


    PACCI said as of 2009, sales of locally-manufactured vehicles have drastically gone down to 63,813 units or 49 percent of the total car sales, from 145,888 units or about 90 percent of total sales in 1996.

    The group said the proliferation of used vehicle imports and the high growth rate of brand new vehicle imports have contributed to the decline which causes a drain on foreign exchange.

    The group said the new Motor Vehicle Development Program (MVDP) will address key competitiveness and productivity concerns of the industry which would result in sustainable economic benefits in the form of more quality jobs, increased investments and more government revenues.


    PACCI’s members include the Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines which is the heading automotive parts’ manufacturing association; Ford, Honda, Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Toyota.


    Collectively, PACCI accounts for 90 percent of the domestic automotive manufacturing.
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    [SIZE=3]Auto Execs Got Lost In Translation-CAMPI chief[/SIZE]

    Manila Times
    March 30, 2010

    http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php...n--campi-chief

    The embattled head of the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines Inc. (Campi) scored the chiefs of four Japanese member-companies for misreading the group’s position on the government’s new program for the industry.


    In a letter dated March 17, Elizabeth Lee, Campi president, said the group is opposing the New Motor Vehicle Development Program (NMVDP) draft for creating a loophole not found in the existing program contained in Executive Order (EO) 156.

    Lee was referring to a provision in the NMVDP that reclassified imported used engines and other components from “prohibited” to “regulated” items.

    “If the NMVDP will have the revision of merely regulating the importation of used engine and parts, then it is best we remain at this time, with the current EO 156 which strictly prohibits it,” Lee wrote.

    Lee’s March 17 letter was in response to a March 15 letter addressed to her and signed by Honda Philippines president Hiroshi Shimizu, Isuzu Philippines President Keiji Takeda, Mitsubishi Philippines President Masahiko Ueki and Toyota Philippines President Michinobu Sugata.

    In their letter, the four Japanese car company executives questioned Campi’s opposition to the NMVDP, and complained that “these matters were never discussed among members” of the organization, and only created “confusion” as to the industry’s stance.

    In her response, Lee took exception to their allegations, adding that she was “deeply hurt, offended, disappointed and surprised.”

    Lee said Campi’s position had been thoroughly discussed on several occasions by the members of the group’s executive committee, which includes representatives from Honda, Isuzu, Mistubishi and Toyota.

    She said any confusion or divisiveness should be blamed on the “creation of another group whose members are also Campi members (except for Ford).”

    The Campi president was referring to the Philippine Automotive Competitiveness Council Inc. (PACCI), which earlier welcomed news that the NMVDP draft—along with the loophole—had been submitted for the President’s approval.

    Besides American carmaker Ford, other members of PACCI are Honda, Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Toyota.


    Sought for comment, Lee told The Manila Times that the four Japanese car company executives have yet to respond to her March 17 letter.
    Ben Arnold O. De Vera
    The government must address the concerns of the local auto industry because thousands of local jobs are at stake.

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    #48
    The thing is if the local market cannot afford to buy new cars, any support by the government will simply end in failure. Short of making a program like "cash for clunkers" program in the USA, there is little incentive for the Filipino to buy more cars than what is already being bought.

    The local car industry must look for potential markets outside the Philippine borders and plans for export to other countries be studied.

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    #49
    PACCI said as of 2009, sales of locally-manufactured vehicles have drastically gone down to 63,813 units or 49 percent of the total car sales, from 145,888 units or about 90 percent of total sales in 1996.

    The group said the proliferation of used vehicle imports and the high growth rate of brand new vehicle imports have contributed to the decline which causes a drain on foreign exchange.
    those who can afford to buy new cars want CBUs

    GH, you bought a CBU Lancer right?

    people i know who recently bought a new car got a CBU (2 of them got Subarus)

    the market demands CBUs

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    those who can afford to buy new cars want CBUs

    GH, you bought a CBU Lancer right?

    people i know who recently bought a new car got a CBU (2 of them got Subarus)

    the market demands CBUs
    Actually my Lancer EX GLS is a local assembly unit.

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