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  1. obiwan
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    February 1st, 2006 05:43 PM #1
    hi there,

    my 1994 Civic's radiator has a leak in the top side (area where the cap is). a car shop recommended to have it converted to the traditional steel (or whatever that brown colored metal is, similar to the older cars). since buying a new radiator will be too expensive

    i wanted to ask....

    1. it is a common practice to convert the top portion from plastic to steel? instead of buying new radiator?

    2. they quoted my P2,500. is that reasonable?

    appreciate any comments!

    thanks
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    February 1st, 2006 06:03 PM #2
    Please search, madami na po topics about this...

    Short answer for you though is to bring that radiator to DENSO (or PM Zeagle here) and have them replace the top with an ORIGINAL DENSO top as well.
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    February 1st, 2006 06:11 PM #3
    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    Please search, madami na po topics about this...

    Short answer for you though is to bring that radiator to DENSO (or PM Zeagle here) and have them replace the top with an ORIGINAL DENSO top as well.
    Thanks theveed,

    i tried a search on "radiator conversion" and "radiator convert" but nothing came out...i will refine my search question....

    anyway, thanks for the help, now i know what to do.......


    cheers!
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    February 1st, 2006 06:16 PM #4
    you can also try looking into buying surplus parts.
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    February 1st, 2006 06:20 PM #5
    price starts at P2,500 nga for a brand new all-copper radiator.
    i got mine for my lancer at banaue some two years ago.
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    February 1st, 2006 07:18 PM #6
    obiwan...

    Eto yung DENSO, kanila Zeagle yan...
    http://www.densoservice-phil.com/

    HTH too

    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12431
    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4360
    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1498
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    February 5th, 2006 02:45 PM #7
    for a little bit more you can get a brand new evercool unit
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    February 5th, 2006 03:21 PM #8
    Like theveed said, drop by any Denso shop, they repair plastic radiators. Zeagle's is in Makati area, there's also one in Banawe.
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    February 5th, 2006 11:43 PM #9
    wow! i never knew i can save up money just to repair my stock plastic radiator from denso. I'll try to ask where is Denso here in cebu. thanx theeved.
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    February 5th, 2006 11:44 PM #10
    and by the way the link you just post theeved was a denso site and it has a link where denso cebu located. thanx so much theeved!
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    February 6th, 2006 02:05 PM #11
    Im not sure, why not drop them an email, baka meron silang branch dun, if not, ask mo din kay Vince siguro if you can arrange for door-to-door, baka pwede.
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    February 6th, 2006 06:53 PM #12
    The Civic's stock radiator is an aluminum unit with crimped plastic end tanks.

    Normally, unless some idiot does something stupid like lean heavily on an overflow pipe, fiberglass reinforced plastic is pretty tough, and the common causes of leakages would be worn gaskets.

    Replacing the tank with a brass replacement or even steel (supposing they can actually weld it without using any exotic alloy) would be a death sentence to your radiator and your aluminum block because of galvanic corrosion. More active metals will make aluminum a sacrificial anode. Though coolants minimize the possibility of this by being a dielectric solution, you can't ignore the possibility.

    I suggest just buying an aftermarket replacement radiator, it doesn't cost that much for a brass/copper unit. Unless of course you're weight conscious as the brass/copper unit weighs over twice as much as its Al counterpart.
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    February 7th, 2006 10:08 AM #13
    EVO-V

    I am really amazed at the technical knowledge you and others have on this field...thanks for your advice, you and speedy fix are right, i should also consider just replacing the unit if the cost is not that much more.....i will also check the gaskets (i am assuming they can be replaced).....

    i have a feeling some fool must have leaned on it while replacing the spark plugs or something like that......
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    February 9th, 2006 03:28 PM #14
    I didn't know that Denso is replacing plastic top of radiator... sayang 'yong Corolla namin tanso na ang ibabaw ng radiator niya... hmmm.
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    February 10th, 2006 09:42 AM #15
    Quote Originally Posted by speedyfix
    for a little bit more you can get a brand new evercool unit

    san po ba mabibili ang evercool? magkano po kaya para sa crv 2000 model
    thanks
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    February 13th, 2006 06:58 AM #16
    price will depend kung single or 2 row tsaka kung manual or matic yung car. give the shop a call for an estimate.
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    February 16th, 2006 09:05 AM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by speedyfix
    price will depend kung single or 2 row tsaka kung manual or matic yung car. give the shop a call for an estimate.

    sino hahanapin kung pa estimate crv oto ko matic po..
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    February 16th, 2006 11:44 PM #18
    we got an order for a crv today... was that you? tom daw kakabit. hehe!
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