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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Mga masters, I need your expert opinion.

    My brod-in-law bouht a 1994 Delica Chamonix the other day from Pampanga. While I was test driving it last night, I notice na kpag dehins umaandar yung van, mahina yung aircon (halos wala na nga) pero, once I drive on, lumalamig especially kapag pumalo na ng mga 80+Kph. I told him about my observation pero sabi daw nung pinagkuhanan nya at nung mechanic, normal daw yun for diesel rides, especially kung 2nd hand. Is this true? Yung Delica ko kasi dehins naman ganito. I'm asking kasi 'wawa naman ang utol ko kung palpak yung van na nabili nila.

    One other thing: unlike dun sa Delica ko na electronic na yung thermostat control, dun sa Chamonix nya, eh manual yung pinipihit. Tried adjusting it pero no dice.

    Thanks po mga masters!

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    baka wala naman FAN sa may condenser...pag mabilis lang talaga magkakaroon ng lamig dahil doon lang talaga bubuga yung hangin sa condenser...

    usually nasa baba ng driver and condenser ng delica

    pa check mo rin yung mga hose for leaks and kung nasa color blue yung temperature baka naman nasa hot...hehehe

    and dalhin mo na sa air con specialist..for leaks and freon

    nangyari na rin sa akin yan....di pala umaandar yung fan ko nasira...yun pina overhaul ko lang yung fan and oks na ulit

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    Ang suspect ko nga din eh yung fan. Kaya kang, ayaw kong kalikutin kasi baka I'd do more harm than good. Anyway, thanks for the help.

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    Tama baka fan lang yan. However try this. Rev your engine to 2000 rpm and see if the airconditioner cools. If it does, your compressor is weak. Either you have it overhauled or replaced.

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    kuha ka ng garden hose tapos basahin mo yung condenser...panigurado lalamig yan hehehe

    pag stable yung auto walang pumapasok na hangin usally mangyayari yan sa mga old cars...basahin mo lang ng fresh water heheh

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    magkano delica sa pampanga?

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    270T ang bili nya 'dun. Chamonix na my crystalite roof. Pangit nga lang ang tyres. Kailangan palitan.

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    Baka mahina yung auxiliary fan sa condenser, 270T for a Delica? pagkaalam ko parang nasa 180 to 220T range na lang presyo ngayon niyan ah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolodeon
    270T ang bili nya 'dun. Chamonix na my crystalite roof. Pangit nga lang ang tyres. Kailangan palitan.
    sa khy trading nya ba kinuha? yung malapit sa ford pampanga.

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    Space Gear ba sya? AFAIK hanggang 93 lang yung L300 (i might be wrong din not so sure). Sa harap lang ba mahina? Might be fan din lang, pero kung sira yung fan dapat tumataas temp nya from the usual sa akin kasi ganon (L300 exceed) nangyari pumutok pala fuse nung fan (yung nasa harap ng radiator), dalawa ata condenser neto isa yung sa radiator isa yung nasa ibaba ng drivers side (paki correct na lang if im wrong ). Sa tires oks dyan is 235 X 75 parang naliliitan kasi ako dun sa stock nya na 215 eh. HTH

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    Dehins ko alam kung san nya kinuha. P 270T nga ang kuha. By the way, condenser ang problem. Kailangan i-overhaull. Pinabalik ko sa kanya 'dun sa dealer kasi ang pangako sa kanya eh new condenser. Yung tyres, ewan ko kung mapakiusapan nya yung dealer kung mapalitan.

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    Ino-overhaul ba ang condenser? Hindi ba non-moving part yun just like the radiator and intercooler? IMHO, its not worth to repair a condenser kasi masyadong pino ang fins and tubes niyan unlike the radiator.

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    Dear Nicolodeon,
    I have the same problem with by 2.5 TDIC pajero (walang lamig pag di umaandar, lumalamig pag rekta na). dual aircon ba ito? At first, sira yung condenser fan ko, so pinalitan, ganun pa rin. Next baka raw kulang sa freon, so pinalagyan-ganun pa rin. lastly, may expansion valve kasi yung pajero sa rear (dual aircon). Pinapalitan ko, ayun, kahit tanghali at di gumagalaw sa traffic ay malamig na. In essence, expansion valve sa rear aircon ang problema. Wala naman sa textbook of troubleshooting yan ( I think). Kay Pajero expert (joel) ko pinapagawa pajero ko. Siya rin ang nakadiscover nito. Hope this helps

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    estee98: Who is Joel the pajero expert? Pang aircon lang ba sya? What is his contact number? Its summer time once again, an acid test for our aircon, medyo di yata kaya ng ride ko yun heat during mid day at kailangan na rin ipa-check ang aircon.

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    Dual aircon yung ride ng brod-in-law ko (the chamonix in question). He had the condenser fan checked, okay daw. Freon, in a-ok levels. According to him, parang wala daw "pressure" or compression na binibigay yung compressor. At first, yung aircon sa front lang ang ganun. After a few days, yung likod na ang problem. I have no word kung ano na ang nangyari after he had his compressor "repaird".

    estee98: I'll give him your advice regarding the expansion valves.

    otep: According to him na-overhaul daw. But like what you said, sabi ko sa kanya hindi advisable i-overhaul for the reasons you mentioned. Pero, I think it was overhauled. I'm curious on just how he percieves it was performed kaya I plan to test drive his van this weeked.

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    ganito solutions sa chamonix, xmpre need ng aircon tech jan, sa sinabi mo suspect ko agd is compressor, ksi kpg sira ang compressor or lose compression sa idling lng ng engine at hnd lumamig in normal stage ang aircon mo, at sa rekta for about 60 to 80kph lumamig xa at nag automatic ang aircon...yun na, compressor na ang sira....kpag expansion valve ang pag uusapan, nk rekta ka na or nk menor ka lang hnd mo ma papa automatic ang aircon mo, pero may kaunting lamig lng yun, na gagauge ang freon para ma identify din kung maluwag na ang butas ng expansion valve.....thats all, thanx

Aircon prob sa Chamonix