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    To be officially launched locally on May 26, 2021

    Unveiled in China last 2018 and was officially released in 2019 under SAIC-Volkswagen



    2021 Volkswagen T-Cross: what can PH customers expect? | Autoindustriya

    B-segment crossover in the market, it's set to take on the likes of the MG ZS, Ford EcoSport, Geely Coolray, and the Kia Seltos.

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    Was this launched already?

    Impressions?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Was this launched already?

    Impressions?

    eto pa lang nakikita ko sa YouTube (looks like a soft effort from AC to push the vehicle)





    Yung neighbor ko naka post sa FB na agent sya... pero "pa-cool" mode muna ako kung dinala nya yung car para makita ng neighbors.

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    dami ko nakita nito dyan sa MCX rotunda sa may EVIA... dyan yata depot ng ayala eh.. kasama ng kia, isuzu...

    dalawang carrier ang nag baba ng volkswagen t-cross.. maganda din ah..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    dami ko nakita nito dyan sa MCX rotunda sa may EVIA... dyan yata depot ng ayala eh.. kasama ng kia, isuzu...

    dalawang carrier ang nag baba ng volkswagen t-cross.. maganda din ah..
    diyan ang stockyard/depot ng AC automotive. Back last week i also saw some DMAX parked together at that place...

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    Good to know that this is a global model that is even sold in Europe

    Anyone here who has driven this already?

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    What exactly does this offer compared to its less expensive competitors?

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    If a turbocharger is such a concern, why are there so many buyers of turbocharged diesel vehicles? Almost every diesel-fed vehicle is turbocharged except for the old tech Adventure and L300.

    I guess a turbocharged petrol vehicle would not be too much of a concern, like how most people embraced turbo diesel vehicles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    If a turbocharger is such a concern, why are there so many buyers of turbocharged diesel vehicles? Almost every diesel-fed vehicle is turbocharged except for the old tech Adventure.

    I guess a turbocharged petrol vehicle would be less of a concern compared to a turbocharged diesel vehicle.
    I heard this arguments before... so will just give the same answer...

    Are there still Naturally Aspirated diesel engines available in the market?

    Even if you wanted to buy one, no one's selling.

    The "old person in me" is asking me to stay away from Turbo engines, but in reality, I will probably purchase either an Innova or a Territory by end of this year, or early next year

    Just like the "old person in me" saying the Manual Tranny is better... I will still buy an A/T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    If a turbocharger is such a concern, why are there so many buyers of turbocharged diesel vehicles? Almost every diesel-fed vehicle is turbocharged except for the old tech Adventure and L300.

    I guess a turbocharged petrol vehicle would not be too much of a concern like a turbocharged diesel vehicle.


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    Turbocharger itself is not the concern. Its more of the extra wear it produces to the engine...

    I don't know if anyone here can verify this but I've been told that diesel engine blocks are inherently more durable than common gasoline engines, mas makapal daw ang materials na ginagamit sa diesel engines, hence why turbo diesels last longer than turbo gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    I don't know if anyone here can verify this but I've been told that diesel engine blocks are inherently more durable than common gasoline engines, mas makapal daw ang materials na ginagamit sa diesel engines, hence why turbo diesels last longer than turbo gas.
    That's because diesel fuel requires higher combustion pressures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Turbocharger itself is not the concern. Its more of the extra wear it produces to the engine...

    I don't know if anyone here can verify this but I've been told that diesel engine blocks are inherently more durable than common gasoline engines, mas makapal daw ang materials na ginagamit sa diesel engines, hence why turbo diesels last longer than turbo gas.
    yes... diesel engines are built "better" compared to petrol engines

    however

    diesel also needs a higher compression ratio and they are heavier (thanks to the sturdier materials used)

    Turbo Maintenance... Look at all those locally made jeeps and buses. Most engines used to have a turbo which was removed by local mechanics to avoid future issues. Hence, the locally "modified" diesel engines lost power and started emitting black smoke.

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    Back to the T-Cross...

    I think a lot of people would be interested if it was priced like the MG ZS

    Or (at its current price) had all the features of the Territory Titanium

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Turbocharger itself is not the concern. Its more of the extra wear it produces to the engine...

    I don't know if anyone here can verify this but I've been told that diesel engine blocks are inherently more durable than common gasoline engines, mas makapal daw ang materials na ginagamit sa diesel engines, hence why turbo diesels last longer than turbo gas.
    sa design, they need to compensate for the extra power from the turbo... some 4d56 engines have turbo but you cannot fit a turbo to a NA 4d56 engine as their internal components are different.

    also diesel engines have more robust blocks due to high combustion pressure needed.. in the 4JA1 isuzu engine, the turbo is a low charge turbo.. only to help the engine improve its emission and not really to add more power..

    i believe that an turbo gas engine can also reach the same life span of a NA engine given the proper maintenance and normal use.

    sana nga VW fitted a diesel engine sa T-cross para maiba naman among small crossovers na puro gas engine

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    We have had 4 turbo petrol cars since 2014. All three had proven reliable over a span of 5 years. 3 were petrol and 1 is a diesel.

    I had to sell the Fiesta Ecoboost back in 2019. I would have kept it but we acquired the ASX.

    The FXT, Civic RS, and Jetta TDI were all acquired in 2016. No major concerns for all three cars.

    The VW T-Cross would have been better if it had the 1.4L turbo engine. I drove a Golf 1.4T back in 2016 and I would say it is one of the best cars I have driven.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    We have had 4 turbo petrol cars since 2014. All three had proven reliable over a span of 5 years. 3 were petrol and 1 is a diesel.

    I had to sell the Fiesta Ecoboost back in 2019. I would have kept it but we acquired the ASX.

    The FXT, Civic RS, and Jetta TDI were all acquired in 2016. No major concerns for all three cars.

    The VW T-Cross would have been better if it had the 1.4L turbo engine. I drove a Golf 1.4T back in 2016 and I would say it is one of the best cars I have driven.


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    Yes. Its normal not to have any problems in 5 years. Even 10 years I doubt there will be major problems.

    But in say... 20 years, will a turbo gas engine be as in good condition as a NA?
    As I said, such question will only be relevant depending how long one plans to keep his car...




    Going back to the T-Cross, after watching the video, I still cannot see any distinguishing features vs its competitors. The only standouts is that it looks spacious and rear vents are good... Interior looks youthful I guess. Price talaga problem nito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Yes. Its normal not to have any problems in 5 years. Even 10 years I doubt there will be major problems.

    But in say... 20 years, will a turbo gas engine be as in good condition as a NA?
    As I said, such question will only be relevant depending how long one plans to keep his car...
    Agree. using my sister as an example. Her car will only visit the dealership for its 1,000kms free check-up... next PMS will be arranged by a local mechanic. Kaya every time she asks us for a car suggestion, we will always answer it with a Naturally Aspirated, preferably Manual, Toyota

    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Going back to the T-Cross, after watching the video, I still cannot see any distinguishing features vs its competitors. The only standouts is that it looks spacious and rear vents are good... Interior looks youthful I guess. Price talaga problem nito.
    (Haven't seen the video, pero) I remember articles saying na may USB-C sya, very convenient for me since I replaced all my cables with a Type-C na... pero all our cars have Qi chargers

    IMO, VW needs a good endorser for its cars. One that can speak to their potential buyers.

    They cannot sell VW (and Maxus) like a Honda or an Isuzu

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Yes. Its normal not to have any problems in 5 years. Even 10 years I doubt there will be major problems.

    But in say... 20 years, will a turbo gas engine be as in good condition as a NA?
    One more data point in favor of turbo reliability since we're giving anecdotal evidence: I've had my WRX since early 2007 so 14 years na. Never had a single problem with the engine.

    A Ford commuter car from around the same time actually gave me more trouble as it needed to have its cylinder head rebuilt.

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    Somehow, VW-PH got good sales figures when they brought in those Jettas and Golfs back in 2016. It turned sour for them when they pushed those China models which was not much appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Somehow, VW-PH got good sales figures when they brought in those Jettas and Golfs back in 2016. It turned sour for them when they pushed those China models which was not much appreciated.


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    I've never had the chance to see their 2016-17 figures, pero if I remember correctly, ito dapat yung diesel engine cars nila which had very good reputation (internationally) then Dieselgate happened

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