Good aftermarket brand for 2018 Subaru XV Lineartronic CVT Fluid

[kevindd992002]

Which brand do you guys recommend for a CVTF drain and refill on a 2018 Subaru XV? Mitasu is fairly well-priced but I find very little information about it in the Internet. A member on another thread here said that it isn't even made in Japan but is made in Russia and that he does not trust the brand. In international Subaru forums, I'm reading the like of Amsoil and Redline. Does the casa use OEM CVTF? If so, where can we buy OEM CVTF?

[StockEngine]

Ano nakalagay sa manual bro?

[StockEngine]

I can't find the thread but mitasu is ok naman.

They buy the license from subaru or toyota and advertise it meeting the specs.

Daming lubricants sa Japan. Eneos hks idemitsu aisin..




Just for fun..only 3 are api licensed in pinas. Petron seaoil and phoenix.

Pertua is fake

[kevindd992002]

Ang nakalagay sa manual is to consult the dealership lang, bro. No specific specs.

Here's that post by *oj88 :

Changing ATF Fluid completely (DIALYSIS PROCESS)

I see. I can get 6L Mitasu MJ-329 for just around P4.3K so it's really cheaper than if I get Amsoil at around P6K. But since it's the tranny we're talking about, I don't want to risk quality/performance over price.

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[Egan101]

If you’re not comfortable with Mitasu or any of the CVTF used by the likes of FusionR and 2211Works, then your best option is to have it done in a dealership.

Marami na nagpalit ng CVTF with FusionR and 2211Works, no issues naman. I had my hesitations too when I had to change the CVTF on my XT. Tiwala naman mga tao sa FusionR.

Back then, a full dialysis CVTF change in a dealership would cost me around 17k to 18k. With FusionR, 10k lang tapos kasama na gear oil change.


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[kevindd992002]

If you’re not comfortable with Mitasu or any of the CVTF used by the likes of FusionR and 2211Works, then your best option is to have it done in a dealership.

Marami na nagpalit ng CVTF with FusionR and 2211Works, no issues naman. I had my hesitations too when I had to change the CVTF on my XT. Tiwala naman mga tao sa FusionR.

Back then, a full dialysis CVTF change in a dealership would cost me around 17k to 18k. With FusionR, 10k lang tapos kasama na gear oil change.


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Not that I'm not comfortable, I'm just doing my own due diligence with the help of you guys I'm all for Mitasu and FusionR/2211 Works as long as there's no reputation against them and so far I don't see anything against them.

The dealership they are using K0425Y0711ID OEM which is also known as the Subaru CVTF II internationally. It's P1480/L from them so that is very expensive. In international sites, they also use Valvoline and that brand is just P480/L so even cheaper here.

P.S. I hope you don't get me wrong. You've been very heplful (as usual). I've posted in different subsections of the forum just to initiate a discussion on the different fluid brands I need to buy but your recommendations are still on my list.

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[Egan101]

You won’t go wrong with Mitasu or Motul or Amsoil CVTF. Dami na gumamit.

Yung sa ASX namin, Hyundai Xteer ginamit ko. It meets the Mitsubishi requirement for CVTF (J4).


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[StockEngine]

Not that I'm not comfortable, I'm just doing my own due diligence with the help of you guys I'm all for Mitasu and FusionR/2211 Works as long as there's no reputation against them and so far I don't see anything against them.

The dealership they are using K0425Y0711ID OEM which is also known as the Subaru CVTF II internationally. It's P1480/L from them so that is very expensive. In international sites, they also use Valvoline and that brand is just P480/L so even cheaper here.

P.S. I hope you don't get me wrong. You've been very heplful (as usual). I've posted in different subsections of the forum just to initiate a discussion on the different fluid brands I need to buy but your recommendations are still on my list.

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I checked the specs and:

Motul SB CVT is your choice if Subaru cvt fluid is not available or priced too high. It's specially made for K0425Y0711 specs and no other.

Mitasu is your 2nd choice it also meets K0425Y0711/10.

[kevindd992002]

Why do the third-party auto shops recommend only CVTF drain and refill for the for the first 40K Km while the casa suggests the full dialysis method? After the first drain and refill, when is the dialysis process done?

[Egan101]

Why do the third-party auto shops recommend only CVTF drain and refill for the for the first 40K Km while the casa suggests the full dialysis method? After the first drain and refill, when is the dialysis process done?

Because like most non-MT trannies only do drain & refill. The dialysis method is more complex and more expensive. You are practically changing all fluid in the tranny with the dialysis method. That’s about 13L.


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[kevindd992002]

Because like most non-MT trannies only do drain & refill. The dialysis method is more complex and more expensive. You are practically changing all fluid in the tranny with the dialysis method. That’s about 13L.


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Does that mean that we never need to do the dialysis method for the life of the car? Do you happen to know the reason why most people in the US do dialysis instead of drain and refill?

[Egan101]

Does that mean that we never need to do the dialysis method for the life of the car? Do you happen to know the reason why most people in the US do dialysis instead of drain and refill?

I have no idea. I guess It’s cheaper for them to do it that way. Some people in the US also do drain and refill.


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[dr. d]

Does that mean that we never need to do the dialysis method for the life of the car? Do you happen to know the reason why most people in the US do dialysis instead of drain and refill?

from what i understand,
draining and refilling just replaces the free oil in the trans box.
the oil inside the torque converter does not drain that well, in plain drain and refill method.
this is where dialysis method comes in.
in dialysis method, the oil inside the torque converter becomes part of the circulating oil that is constantly being drained of dirty oil and refilled with clean oil.

[travajante]

from what i understand,
draining and refilling just replaces the free oil in the trans box.
the oil inside the torque converter does not drain that well, in plain drain and refill method.
this is where dialysis method comes in.
in dialysis method, the oil inside the torque converter becomes part of the circulating oil that is constantly being drained of dirty oil and refilled with clean oil.

Transmission fluid flushes miss 1 vital thing...FILTER REPLACEMENT! It's rather unwise to go to just any shop where you have no assurance nor idea of how their flush(dialysis) equipment has been maintained...or who knows, they might mix-use theirs for various CVTs & other types of ATs. There's that risk of having some amount of wrong fluid mixed with the recommended + that attached below... More harm than good.
Drain, replace the filter & fill multiple times is the safer way & is what most manufacturers recommend.

Services that you DON’T need: Transmission Flushes – My Garage

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[yapoy86]

i saw some videos in youtube doing DIY transmission flush by tapping at the fluid cooler lines.. they let the transmission dump the old fluid and feed new fluid with help of gravity..

but last time i did an ATF change, i just perform the trusty drain and fill at 40k kms.. did it twice in interval of 2.5k kms.. on the 2nd flush, ATF is back is reddish color.

[dr. d]

Transmission fluid flushes miss 1 vital thing...FILTER REPLACEMENT! It's rather unwise to go to just any shop where you have no assurance nor idea of how their flush(dialysis) equipment has been maintained...or who knows, they might mix-use theirs for various CVTs & other types of ATs. There's that risk of having some amount of wrong fluid mixed with the recommended + that attached below... More harm than good.
Drain, replace the filter & fill multiple times is the safer way & is what most manufacturers recommend.

Services that you DON’T need: Transmission Flushes – My Garage

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the hidden message...
"go casa!"

[travajante]

the hidden message...
"go casa!"

Or, DIY casa style, not flush/dialysis.[emoji4]

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[kevindd992002]

the hidden message...
"go casa!"

My take away from the article is not to do a flush but just a drain and refill. And since the casa for Subaru cars is using flush/dialysis method, then it's "avoid casa" for me.

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[kevindd992002]

i saw some videos in youtube doing DIY transmission flush by tapping at the fluid cooler lines.. they let the transmission dump the old fluid and feed new fluid with help of gravity..

but last time i did an ATF change, i just perform the trusty drain and fill at 40k kms.. did it twice in interval of 2.5k kms.. on the 2nd flush, ATF is back is reddish color.

That makes sense. If I think of it, it's the same concept as my computer water cooling system. The main point in the system is to never run the pump of the system dry and it is impossible to get 100% of the old liquid out when replacing it.

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[yapoy86]

the ATF dialysis method will utilize the ATF cooler lines... i think, much better to do the gravity feed if you really want the dialysis method, let the transmission pump suck and dump the atf.. just make sure you have sufficient fresh atf for continuous feed.