Motorcycle slips when car does U-turn action, is car driver liable?

[straker]

My sister asked me. She's finding a spot on the road to do a U-turn. She spotted a subdivision entrance which is generously big so she can negotiate that turn without taking space in the road.

She also noticed an on-coming motorcycle coming. She thougt the bike was still far enough, so she made the turn. When she finally completed the U-Turn on the subdivision entrance, she noticed that the bike slipped. She hesitated at first, but then left the scene. The bike driver was able to stand up and bring the bike on the side.

What she needs to know if she's liable to that accident. Its possible her car plates are taken and probably just a matter of time she'll be found.

[ghosthunter]

Assuming she was signalling before the u-turn and given that there was no physical contact between the two vehicles, there is practically no liability.

And if the motorcycle driver tries to pursue the issue, its a matter of his word vs her word. It won't even get to court.

[Retz]

If your sister is at the inner most lane making the U-Turn with turn signal lamp on, Motorcycle should be at the back of your sister car and not at the side that is wrong or illegal overtaking. Your sister fault is inattentive. HTH.

[shadow]

kung hinde nagkatamaan walang liability...yun ang paniwala ko...anong dedemanda ng nakamotor phantom hit?

[straker]

Retz, the bike is not behind her. She's on one lane, while the bike is on the opposite lane (left). She made the left turn for the subdivision entrance. Given the distance from the bike, she thought the biker would slow down. By the time she's at the subdivision gates, the road would be cleared and the motorcycle traveled safely.

The biker may have panicked, hit the brakes, and lost control. When the slip came to a complete stop, the bike was around 20ft from the subdivsion entrance.

[renzo_d10]

Kung walang physical contact, walang liability -- yan ang paniniwala ko.

Your sister can easily make petty excuses whenever the motorcycle rider pursues a case to her. Wala rin naman evidence na nagkatamaan sila, hence the rider cannot claim it as a hit-n-run incident. And if ever the guard of the subdivision sees that indeed there was no physical contact, then your sister can be sleep soundly as night for she doesn't need to think of any liabilities she might face regarding the incident. Unless, of course, there will be some wonders that will happen during the police investigation, if ever there will even be one.

[straker]

Its possible that the rider might go to the police and report in their blotter. Assuming the biker has her plate numbers, will it reflect later in the LTO records?

I too thought the no-contact, no-foul rule applies. But I also heard other stories where car drivers are charged by bikers despite no physical contact made. What got the driver pinned further was he stopped and looked after the slipped biker. He should have just left the area, quietly. The driver paid 20T or more to settle the matter. Had it reached to the court, that will be a money pit.

We're checking if we have someone from the police or maybe the LTO to help us out...