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    I was watching the news yesterday, may isang truck at motorsiklo na magkasabay sa kalye, yung driver ng motorsiklo eh nakatulog daw at ang siste sumayad sya sa gulong truck na katabi nya, in short patay. yung truck driver ngayon nakakulong.

    it got me thinking, im driving to and from work everyday, ganito lang pala kadali makulong, may isang mokong na pinili kang banggain dahil lasing o nakatulog, namatay, eh kulong ka, kahit anong ingat mo eh hindi mo naman maiiwasan yung babangga sa yo.

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    Guilty unless proven innocent.

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    Well, ganun talaga sir.

    Muntik na rin ako jan.

    May lasing na tumakbo at tumawid tapos nabangga ko.

    Muntik na ko makulong.

    Buti medyo "in poverty line" kaya nagipit namin at hindi na sila nademanda (ano idedemanda sakin to begin with?).

    Pero shoulder ko naman yung gastos sa medication na almost worth ng second-hand EE100.

    Unfortunately, yes.

    That part of the law sucks bigtime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I was watching the news yesterday, may isang truck at motorsiklo na magkasabay sa kalye, yung driver ng motorsiklo eh nakatulog daw at ang siste sumayad sya sa gulong truck na katabi nya, in short patay. yung truck driver ngayon nakakulong.

    it got me thinking, im driving to and from work everyday, ganito lang pala kadali makulong, may isang mokong na pinili kang banggain dahil lasing o nakatulog, namatay, eh kulong ka, kahit anong ingat mo eh hindi mo naman maiiwasan yung babangga sa yo.

    Welcome to justice pang-masa. One of the things I want fixed if I had the power and means to do it.

    Given that realization, we can't really blame people who do hit & run in a motoring accident, could we?

    Basically what it comes down to is that an automotive driver's license is a waiver for your right of claiming innocent until proven guilty in case of an accident.

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    G*go kasi iyang batas sa atin na kung sino ang may huling pagkakataong umiwas, siya ang may burden kung naaksidente....

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    parang ang hirap naman yata ng nakatulog ka while driving a motorcycle....

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    G*go't tanga ang gumawa ng batas na yan. Kahit naka full stop ka sa traffic light, pag may bumangga sa likod mo kulong ka parin. At pag nagkapinsala pa yung bugok na nakabangga sa iyo, gagastusan mo pa yung pagamot niya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozcity View Post
    parang ang hirap naman yata ng nakatulog ka while driving a motorcycle....

    Mahirap nga paniwalaan eh. Malamang lasing.

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    kasi mga batas natin sa lansangan e malasado.

    halimbawa kung ganito ang scenario:

    nasa 1-way street ka tapos biglang may makasalubong ka na nakamotor, walang helmet, nagcounterflow dahil hinahabol pala ng mga pulis dahil nag-holdap at nag-agaw ng motor. nabagga mo tapos namatay. malamang kulong ka, homicide at damaged to (stolen) property. Phil. law..

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    pano nalamang nakatulog? eh patay diba?

    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I was watching the news yesterday, may isang truck at motorsiklo na magkasabay sa kalye, yung driver ng motorsiklo eh nakatulog daw at ang siste sumayad sya sa gulong truck na katabi nya, in short patay. yung truck driver ngayon nakakulong.

    it got me thinking, im driving to and from work everyday, ganito lang pala kadali makulong, may isang mokong na pinili kang banggain dahil lasing o nakatulog, namatay, eh kulong ka, kahit anong ingat mo eh hindi mo naman maiiwasan yung babangga sa yo.

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    Any backgrounder/reason kung bakit may batas dito sa atin na pina-paboran ang mga naka-motor?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    pano nalamang nakatulog? eh patay diba?
    baka narinig nung truck driver na humihilik?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    pano nalamang nakatulog? eh patay diba?
    Nakayuko daw sa motor, di ko alam kung totoo,mpero obvious na di kasalanan ng truck dahil sa likod na gulong tumama.

    Also remember sa daang hari, lasing naman na nakamotor, tumama sa likod ng kotse dahil di naka preno, buhay naman kaso naospital, pinasasagot sa may ari ng kotse yung pangospital. Oh di ba? Philippine justice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Nakayuko daw sa motor, di ko alam kung totoo,mpero obvious na di kasalanan ng truck dahil sa likod na gulong tumama.

    Also remember sa daang hari, lasing naman na nakamotor, tumama sa likod ng kotse dahil di naka preno, buhay naman kaso naospital, pinasasagot sa may ari ng kotse yung pangospital. Oh di ba? Philippine justice!
    Ganun ba talaga ang patakaran? kahit ung motor ang bumangga sa iyo at nasaktan sila, ikaw ang magpapagamot sa kanila?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Nakayuko daw sa motor, di ko alam kung totoo,mpero obvious na di kasalanan ng truck dahil sa likod na gulong tumama.

    Also remember sa daang hari, lasing naman na nakamotor, tumama sa likod ng kotse dahil di naka preno, buhay naman kaso naospital, pinasasagot sa may ari ng kotse yung pangospital. Oh di ba? Philippine justice!
    It's more fun in the Phil.

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    tinanong ko na yan sa abogado. pero di ko sure kung tama ang pagkakaintindi ko.

    sabi nya, kung namatay daw, kulong ka muna kasi may napatay nga. pag napatunayan na wala kang kasalanan, labas naman daw. siguro ang nakagawian na dahil sa bagal ng justice system dito, bayaran na lang para iwas abala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robot.sonic View Post
    tinanong ko na yan sa abogado. pero di ko sure kung tama ang pagkakaintindi ko.

    sabi nya, kung namatay daw, kulong ka muna kasi may napatay nga. pag napatunayan na wala kang kasalanan, labas naman daw. siguro ang nakagawian na dahil sa bagal ng justice system dito, bayaran na lang para iwas abala.
    Yan nga ang masama eh, guilty until proven innocent! Palpak talaga ang gumawa ng traffic laws natin. Walang proteksyon sa mga maaayos mag drive. Puro namatay kasi ang dahilan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robot.sonic View Post
    tinanong ko na yan sa abogado. pero di ko sure kung tama ang pagkakaintindi ko.

    sabi nya, kung namatay daw, kulong ka muna kasi may napatay nga. pag napatunayan na wala kang kasalanan, labas naman daw. siguro ang nakagawian na dahil sa bagal ng justice system dito, bayaran na lang para iwas abala.
    Pede naman sigurong pyansa no? Yun nga lang kung wala kang pangpyansa tyaga ka muna sa kulungan. Babayaran ba ng korte ang perwisyo nila pag napatunayang walang kasalanan?

    Sana right then and there sa accident may investigation kagad lalo na pag may namatay.

    Naisip ko pano kung bahay yung binunggo ng lasing? Ikukulong yung may ari ng bahay? Joke. :D

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    Pano kung may bobong pasahero yung motor na walang narating sa buhay tapos nahulog then nadaanan mo?

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    1 killed, 2 hurt in motorcycle collision | Inquirer News

    CEBU CITY, Philippines — A power plant supervisor was killed while two workers of a shipbuilding company were critically injured in a motorcycle accident on the national highway in Barangay (village) Arpili, Balamban town, about 64 kilometers northwest of Cebu City, Saturday.

    The fatality was identified as Alexander Sotes, 54, of Sta. Cruz, Balamban, a supervisor of the Toledo Global Power Corp. in Sangi, Toledo City.

    Sotes was driving his Honda Wave motorcycle on his way to work in Toledo when he overtook a multicab (multipurpose cab) loaded with fish at 6:45 a.m., encroaching on the opposite lane and colliding with Grandstar motorcycle traveling in the other direction.

    Police Officer 2 Godofredo Dumdum of the Balamban Police Station said Sotes was thrown off from his motorcycle. The helmet came off his head, which hit the bumper of the multicab and then the chasis.

    Multicab driver Michael Besabella, 45, was able to stop the vehicle in time so it did not run over Sotes.

    The passengers of the Grandstar motorcycle suffered serious injuries and were taken to the Balamban Provincial Hospital.

    Like Sortes, Lloyd Tumbiga of Tabuela town and Nicanor Canduli, 38, of Balamban, were also on their way to work at Tsuneishi Heavy Industries when the accident happened. They were later transferred to the Vicente Sotto Memorial Medical Center in Cebu City.

    Dumdum said Besabella was detained at the police station pending determination if he had any liability in the death of Sotes.
    An example of how our traffic laws are so flawed.

    The driver of the multicab didn't hit anybody. The stupid motorcyclist counterflowed and collided head on with the other motorcyclists. Yet, they detained the multicab driver. This happened on Saturday, so he won't be out till Monday.

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