Student Driver di na ba pedeng samahan ng Non-Pro/PRO driver habang nagdridrive?

[boknoytm]

Good morning po sa lahat,

Tanong ko lang po kung totoo bang di na pdeng samahan/turuan and STUDENT DRIVER ng Non-Pro/PRO Driver sa pagdridrive?

Sabi nun police na kakilala ng driver namin yan eh... ang sabi pa nya pde lang daw kung sa DRIVING SCHOOL yun.

[_Qwerty_]

maganda nyan.. pakuhanin mo na nang NON pro yung student driver.. para pwede na sya mag isa..

[aga_cruz]

ang labo ng question peeps?


pero ang pagkaka alam ko kung ang nag ddrive eh student lic. kailangan me lagi cyang kasamang prof lic.

[boknoytm]

ang labo ng question peeps?


pero ang pagkaka alam ko kung ang nag ddrive eh student lic. kailangan me lagi cyang kasamang prof lic.

yun din po pagkakaalam ko... student driver (with student permit) pdeng samahan ng me pro license

kaso yun nga di na daw pde yun, ang pde na lang daw eh sa mga driving school... kung baga parang sinabi nila na sa driving school kalang magpapaturo... yun daw yung sabi nun pulis na kakilala nun driver namin...

student permit pa lang kc ako... tapos na rin yung lessons ko sa driving school... eh alam nya na gusto ko idrive yung sasakyan tapos sinabi nya yun... so di ko na drive...

di ko alam kung ayaw nya lang akong pagdrive kc binabayaran namin kada drive nya sa amin... so kung matututo ako dun sa car namin mismo... mawawalan nga naman sya ng extra income...

hintayin ko na lang magka non-pro... hayzzz...

[shadow]

pwede ka pa rin naman mag-drive huwag ka nga lang paphuli...hehehe

seriously, alam ko pwede basta PRO yun license ng kasama mo

[Bochekokik]

Puwedeng mag drive yung may student license lang provided na may kasama siya na may Pro-driver's license.
Wag ka mag drive na mag isa na student license lang dala mo, in any accidents, kahit nasa tama ka, ikaw pa rin ang mali dahil sa license mo.

Dati pa ang ganitong ruling pero not sure kung binago na naman nila ang batas.
Pinakamagandang solusyon, kumuha ka na ng Nonpro drivers license, solb na problema mo. 1month waiting time before ka makakuha ng NonPro starting from the time na kinuha mo student license mo.

[yebo]

either ogag yung pulis na yun o talagang ayaw ka lang matuto mag-drive nung driver nyo dahil sabi mo nga mawawalan sya ng sideline. pwedeng-pwede ka mag-drive basta may kasama kang pro DL holder sa right passenger seat (di pwede sa likod, harap dapat).

kuha ka na kasi ng non-pro DL. mag-exam ka lang naman tapos syempre dala ka ng car, ikot minsan tapos atras-abante dun sa loob ng parking lot ng lto then 1 hour later may license ka na. yup, yung actual driving exam e sa loob lang ng parking lot, 1 minute lang tapos na. need mo nga pala ng drug test.

[ChevyChaser]

Good morning po sa lahat,

Tanong ko lang po kung totoo bang di na pdeng samahan/turuan and STUDENT DRIVER ng Non-Pro/PRO Driver sa pagdridrive?

Sabi nun police na kakilala ng driver namin yan eh... ang sabi pa nya pde lang daw kung sa DRIVING SCHOOL yun.

Hi Bok,

ChevyChaser Here. Tell you something. I got my Non-Pro Lic in 1977 and until now, Non-Pro pa rin. Why? Dahil wala akong balak maging Tsuper o Driver ng Jeep, Taxi, Bus o Caro ng Funeraria. THAT is what PROFESSIONAL DRIVER's LICENSE mean. Pinagkikitaan ng hanap-buhay ang pagmamaneho. Just like a Doctor. Kailangan may PROFESSIONAL LICENSE.

Now, ever since I got my License, I have taught a good number of people how to drive using my own car (1975 Mit Galant HT): my wife at mga pamangkin niya. And the lesson included Traffic Signs, mga guhit sa kalsada at bangketa (Yellow paint or Red Paint) and Road Ethics.
Before I left last May, I was teaching my own daughter how to drive.

As far as the rules are concerned, A STUDENT MAY OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE WHILE UNDER SUPERVISION OF A LICENSED DRIVER AND IN POSSESION OF A STUDENT'S PERMIT.
It did not say PROFESSIONAL OR NON-PROFESSIONAL.
Naturally, Driving Instructors require a PROFESSIONAL LICENSE because that is where they derive their income from. A NON-PROFESSIONAL LICENSE DRIVER is LIMITED TO PRIVATE (GREEN /WHITE PLATE) REGISTERED VEHICLES Only.
So, kung di naman TAXI o PASSENGER JEEP ang gamit mo, kahit Dad mo o Kuya o PInsan o Kaibigan mo na Lisensyado, pwede ka samahan sa kotse niyo.
Sorry kung masyado mahaba.
LOTS OF LUCK!!!

[samnlph]

Hello Sir,

I think you can make things little clear for me. actually i dont speak tagalog so i was not able to understnd 100% of your email but i think i got ur point. but just to be sure,
*** does that mean a Student Driver is allowed to drive a car when accompanied by a non-professional licenced driver or it has to be a Professional licenced driver ONLY ?

Here is the link that confused me: please check point 11 in the following link:

http://www.lto.gov.ph/fines_and_pena...ml#v_others_TV

Sir i would really be glad if you can reply asap.


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[woohoo]

Hello Sir,

I think you can make things little clear for me. actually i dont speak tagalog so i was not able to understnd 100% of your email but i think i got ur point. but just to be sure,
*** does that mean a Student Driver is allowed to drive a car when accompanied by a non-professional licenced driver or it has to be a Professional licenced driver ONLY ?

Here is the link that confused me: please check point 11 in the following link:

http://www.lto.gov.ph/fines_and_pena...ml#v_others_TV

Sir i would really be glad if you can reply asap.


Safin

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+639212266110

Item #11 didn't specify what type of License, so by "Licensed driver" it means either Non-Prof. or Prof.

[murraya]

Balikan natin ang BATAS, dahil ito ang makapagsasabi kung ano talaga ang tama:

Here is Section 30 (BEFORE AMENDMENT) of RA 4136 which gives the rules on student permits:

"Section 30. Student-driver's permit. - Upon proper application and the payment of three pesos, the Commissioner or his deputy may issue student-driver's permits, valid for six months to persons not under eighteen years of age, who desire to learn to operate motor vehicles. No application for driver's license shall be received unless the applicant has undergone instruction in the operation of motor vehicles for at least a month and has a valid student-driver's permit: Provided, however, That any person who has a license to operate vehicles in other countries may, upon presentation of appropriate evidence of such license, be allowed to pay for a driver's license without presenting a student driver's permit.
A student driver who fails in the examination shall continue as a student driver for at least one additional month. No student driver shall operate a motor vehicle unless accompanied by a duly licensed driver.
The licensed driver acting as instructor to the student driver shall likewise be responsible and liable for any violation of the provisions of this Act and for any injury or damage done by the motor vehicle on account or as a result of its operation by a student under his direction."





UPON AMENDMENT by BP 398, Section 30 became (items in bold are added and/or important items):


"Section 30. Student-driver's permit. — Upon proper application and the payment of the fee prescribed in accordance with law, the Director or his deputies may issue student-driver's permits, valid for one year to persons not under sixteen years of age, who desire to learn to operate motor vehicles.

A student-driver who fails in the examination on a professional or non-professional license shall continue as a student-driver and shall not be allowed to take another examination at least one month thereafter. No student-driver shall operate a motor vehicle, unless possessed of a valid student-driver's permit and accompanied by a duly licensed driver.

The licensed driver duly accredited by the Bureau, acting as instructor to the student-driver, shall be equally responsible and liable as the latter for any violation of the provisions of this Act and for any injury or damage done by the motor vehicle on account or as a result of its operation by a student-driver under his direction."




If we look at the amendment, there is mention of the necessity of being "accompanied by a licensed driver", without any description of this license being non-professional or professional. But, at the same time, the amendment includes the phrase "the licensed driver, duly accredited by the Bureau, acting as instructor to the student-driver"


Questions:


1. When one accompanies a student driver, does he have to be the instructor? Isn't "accompany" different from "instruct"?

2. Is a "duly licensed driver" (the phrase remains the same before and after amendment) a person who has a non-professional or professional driver's license?


I hope lawyers in this forum can help us with this.

[woohoo]

I propose this thread be locked. Paulit-ulit lang, e.

[eld]

Hi all, according to LTO website 1 month old pa lang SP mo pwede nang kumuha ng license pero sa amin may mga nagsasabi 3 months daw dapat. Ano ba talaga?

[aejhayl17]

Hi all, according to LTO website 1 month old pa lang SP mo pwede nang kumuha ng license pero sa amin may mga nagsasabi 3 months daw dapat. Ano ba talaga?

actually requirements/policy ng LTO ang 1 month old S.L.. after 1 month, or 30 days, pwede ka na kumuha ng Driver's license.