TOYOTA FORTUNER or 2005 PRADO?

[inov8]

Mga sir I need your thoughts on this one;

I'm in the market for an SUV (since last year pa), P1.5M+/- budget.
Currently drive a CRV gen3 & Innova.
Seriously considering FORTUNER 2.5 VNT, my problem is it's too old.

My other option is go with PRADO 3.0 1KD (almost same price).
This I consider while waiting for the Fortuner gen2 in 2-3 years.

Appreciate your comments.

[IMm29]

Sorry nalito ako. The 2.5 VNT is too old? But the '05 Prado isn't?

I'm biased. I have an '04 Prado and so I'll vote for it. Low end Torque is the 1KZ-TE's strong suit. Add to that a relatively older non-common rail engine, and u get something a bit easier to maintain. Ride is better, too. But make sure the dash of the unit u get is not plagued by cracks.

Fortuner 2.5VNT is newer and on paper more powerful, but I wonder how it'll feel in the real world.

[renzo_d10]

Can't go wrong with a brand new unit IMO...

[Retz]

nag facelift naman ang Fort eh. not too old imho.

[inov8]

Sorry nalito ako. The 2.5 VNT is too old? But the '05 Prado isn't?

I'm biased. I have an '04 Prado and so I'll vote for it. Low end Torque is the 1KZ-TE's strong suit. Add to that a relatively older non-common rail engine, and u get something a bit easier to maintain. Ride is better, too. But make sure the dash of the unit u get is not plagued by cracks.

Fortuner 2.5VNT is newer and on paper more powerful, but I wonder how it'll feel in the real world.

What I mean is it's too old (2005, the greater majority of its design/construction) for a brand new unit.
1KZ nga pala BTW.
I heard nga na sakit ng Prado ang hairline/cracks sa dashboard.

Tnx for the input anyway.

[OTEP]

If you just need an everyday car, just get the newer model and stay worry free.

If you like Land Cruisers in general, the Prado won't disappoint.

I drive a 1995 LC and it has been reliable. Of course you have to put up with the usual repair and maintenance items at the vehicle's age but I'm surprised how inexpensive it is and how well supported the vehicle is in terms of parts and services.

Now at 150,000kms, I'm due for another timing belt change. Of course along with it comes the water pump, thermostat, tensioner bearing change. Also on my list of maintenance items are replacement of the valve cover gasket, manifold gasket, radiator overhaul, and replace radiator cap. Also had the front brake pads replaced a few weeks ago with Bendix Metal King Titanium/Heavy Duty. I don't mind the maintenance stop since there are Land Cruiser specific shops that specialize on the vehicle.

But if you feel that you will be inconvenienced by the downtime, the newer unit will serve you well.

[br733]

otep,

where do you bring your lc80 for repairs? or where do you get the parts ?

i think i might be looking for shock absorbers....

[inov8]

*otep

maybe if i get a 2005/06 model i still can get one with milleage of around 60-70k.
if that's the case i think it would take 3-4 years * 10k/year before maintenance issues surface.
just in time to dispose it, am i right?

also my daily route is from las pinas to valenzuela (best to worst road conditions).
so driving comfort is really important here, as well as the ability to withstand the
almost "off-road" conditions along the way (EDSA included).

[OTEP]

otep,

where do you bring your lc80 for repairs? or where do you get the parts ?

i think i might be looking for shock absorbers....

I go to Dr. G's Car Clinic managed by GP Gamilla (son of the original Dr. G). It's in Selecta Drive near A. Bonifacio, Q.C. They are the local dealer of Ironman Brand Suspension.

If you want original, Celica Motors Araneta Avenue can have any part delivered to you. Most parts are in stock, less ordered parts about 3 days, and rare parts about a month. But they can get everything at prices that can beat the dealership and they use the same parts catalog system so the buying experience is painless and no more 'sample this sample that' guesswork.

[Starex_Gold]

Sorry nalito ako. The 2.5 VNT is too old? But the '05 Prado isn't?

I'm biased. I have an '04 Prado and so I'll vote for it. Low end Torque is the 1KZ-TE's strong suit. Add to that a relatively older non-common rail engine, and u get something a bit easier to maintain. Ride is better, too. But make sure the dash of the unit u get is not plagued by cracks.

Fortuner 2.5VNT is newer and on paper more powerful, but I wonder how it'll feel in the real world.

Ika nga eh, kahit ano mangyari Land Cruiser parin yan

Maari panalo siya sa brand new na Fortuner pero di natin masasabi kung kasing tibay ng Prado yan.

At kung kaya ibigay yung image ng "PRADO"

[IMm29]

What I mean is it's too old (2005, the greater majority of its design/construction) for a brand new unit.
1KZ nga pala BTW.
I heard nga na sakit ng Prado ang hairline/cracks sa dashboard.

Tnx for the input anyway.

Yep. 1KZ-TE for the '05 model. And yes those d*mn hairline cracks on the dash.

[inov8]

Yep. 1KZ-TE for the '05 model. And yes those d*mn hairline cracks on the dash.

around P35k daw new dash at TMP?

[renzo_d10]

around P35k daw new dash at TMP?

Can't the famous leather upholsterers do something about it?

[IMm29]

Can't the famous leather upholsterers do something about it?

There's an LC120 thread here. Answer is, Yes, for half the P35K new dash. I think one forumer has gotten it done.

My only question is how the airbags will deploy once you've wrapped the dash in leather. Will they still deploy correctly? Will the upholsterers make the necessary unseen perforations to aid in the correct deployment?

[IMm29]

*otep

maybe if i get a 2005/06 model i still can get one with milleage of around 60-70k.
if that's the case i think it would take 3-4 years * 10k/year before maintenance issues surface.
just in time to dispose it, am i right?

also my daily route is from las pinas to valenzuela (best to worst road conditions).
so driving comfort is really important here as well as the ability to withstand the
almost "off-road" conditions along the way.

The Montero Sport has a better ride vs. the Fortuner. But if you want the Fort, there are quite a few suspension upgrade options that can improve the ride.

For piece of mind, the newer Fort should be easier to maintain since any casa can fix it as it is a current model. But if you want to get your hands dirty, the Prado is a good specimen. There are more parts for the LC Otep's referring to tho.