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  1. Join Date
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    This is my first post.
    I just bought a hilux j 2.5l 4x2 but i'm not satisfied with the looks.I know I should have bought the 4x4 but my budget is less than 1m, that is why i need your help to where i can buy the overfender that a 4x4 has, how,where or which do you recommend body lift or suspension lift. Or, can it has the same look as the 4x4 model if you change the mags and tires.
    I want it to look like a 4x4 model.
    please help

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    Fender flare/overvenders are available from the dealer at an insane amount (around Php40k?)

    You can get non-oem fender flares from other shops like Carryboy (if they stock it already), RIDE, Armark, and other reputable off-road shops. However, if you will put on flares without widening your tires and wheels, your vehicle will look odd. Flares don't necessarily make the off-road look. A perfect example of this is the Strada GLX. No flares but looks off-road ready nonetheless.

    www.arb.com.au and www.tjm.com.au makes stuff for Hiluxes including suspensions. But I doubt if their upgrades will give you a lift as high as the 4x4's. Body lifts are available from off-road shops. Armark in San Juan and 199 Off Road House in Tondo has 'em.

    Btw, TJM is distributed by ARMARK, ARB (and Old Man Emu) is distributed by RATS (Katipunan, Alabang, etc.).

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    I guess they don't have a prerunner version of the Hilux being sold in the Philippines, it's basically a 4x2 with 4x4 suspension lift and a locking rear differential. What is the front suspension for the Hilux and is the rear a spring over axle or spring under axle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redorange
    I guess they don't have a prerunner version of the Hilux being sold in the Philippines, it's basically a 4x2 with 4x4 suspension lift and a locking rear differential. What is the front suspension for the Hilux and is the rear a spring over axle or spring under axle?
    They do sell a Prerunner here in the Philippines! Its also a Hilux G variant which comes with a 2.7 vvti engine. Looks like the 4x4 sans the hood scoop and the transfer case.

    From Toyota Phil:

    Suspension
    front - Double Wishbone with Coil Springs and Stabilizer
    rear - Rigid Axle, Leaf Spring

    Well, back to the topic...

    I think its quite expensive to make the J look like a G variant. May as well buy the G if you got the budget.

    1. First you got to add fender flares and paint them body color.
    2. Add a chrome rear bumper (the J does not have a rear bumper).
    3. Upgrade your wheels and tires (while you're at it might as well get one like the Fortuner-if like the stock look).
    4. Do a body lift or is that what its called?
    5. Add a stepboard
    6. Add chrome covers on both side mirrors.
    7. Add chrome inserts on front grill
    8. Add chrome insert on door handle
    9. Add front fog lamps.
    10. Add high mount stop light on tail gate.
    12. Paint the gray front bumper, body color.

    Ok, I may be missing some more items but that's just to make the exterior look like the G variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by number001
    They do sell a Prerunner here in the Philippines! Its also a Hilux G variant which comes with a 2.7 vvti engine. Looks like the 4x4 sans the hood scoop and the transfer case.

    From Toyota Phil:

    Suspension
    front - Double Wishbone with Coil Springs and Stabilizer
    rear - Rigid Axle, Leaf Spring

    Well, back to the topic...

    I think its quite expensive to make the J look like a G variant. May as well buy the G if you got the budget.

    1. First you got to add fender flares and paint them body color.
    2. Add a chrome rear bumper (the J does not have a rear bumper).
    3. Upgrade your wheels and tires (while you're at it might as well get one like the Fortuner-if like the stock look).
    4. Do a body lift or is that what its called?
    5. Add a stepboard
    6. Add chrome covers on both side mirrors.
    7. Add chrome inserts on front grill
    8. Add chrome insert on door handle
    9. Add front fog lamps.
    10. Add high mount stop light on tail gate.
    12. Paint the gray front bumper, body color.

    Ok, I may be missing some more items but that's just to make the exterior look like the G variant.
    They don't offer a rear locking diff for the prerunner there?

    Assuming it uses the same suspension as the one that the original poster has then all he needs to put are spacers for the front suspension and a longer leaf shackle in the back if it's a spring under axle and he can lift it 2"-3". If the back is a spring over axle then he can put blocks for the rear lift. Is the RP Hilux the same as the US Tacoma? If it's the same then several companies make lifts for it already just check on Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redorange
    They don't offer a rear locking diff for the prerunner there?
    Toyota Phil does not make any explicit mention of it. However, in the brochure it lists under drivetrain for the 4x4 variant, as "4x4 Auto Disconnect Differential (A.D.D.)". The 4x2 does not have this.

    Quote Originally Posted by redorange
    Assuming it uses the same suspension as the one that the original poster has then all he needs to put are spacers for the front suspension and a longer leaf shackle in the back if it's a spring under axle and he can lift it 2"-3". If the back is a spring over axle then he can put blocks for the rear lift.
    The high end G variant and entry level J variant both use the exact same suspension components. Their difference is their height and ground clearance.

    The Hi-Lux G 4x2 and 4x4 has a ground clearance of 212 mm. While the thread starter's Hi-Lux which is J variant (Trim wise it is equipped something like a Tacoma Reg Cab) has a ground clearance of 181 mm.

    Hi-Lux G overall height = 1,810 mm
    Hil-Lux J overall height = 1,695 mm.


    Quote Originally Posted by redorange
    Is the RP Hilux the same as the US Tacoma? If it's the same then several companies make lifts for it already just check on Google.
    No they are not created from the same platform. Tacoma looks much more larger and muscular than a Hi-Lux.

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    sa tingin ko sa lahat ng gagastusin mo baka dapat e binili mo na lang e 4x4... ang alam ko mas mabilis mag-devalue ang sasakyan na may non-OEM or aftermarket accessories... kung nakabili ka na ng stock 4x4 e di wala ka ng problema..

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    sir why not convert it to 'street truck' instead? i know, folks this may seem a crazy idea- but there are few of these types. but i guess this would save you a lot of $$$
    because all you need is to lower down the truck and find a bling-bling rims.

    or, sell you hilux and buy a 4X2 Dmax! hehehe. joke only...

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    madali lang mag lift lalo na kung may moolah ka but ride quiality is compromise also theres a limit in crank the torsion bar hanggang 2 inches lang...

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    Just a caution a friend of mine had his 4x2 frontier lifted. It became higher than the 4x4 version. Ganda ng porma. But the ball joints and other suspension parts wore out faster. I suggest you change the rims and tires to a bigger size. since your pick up is still in its warranty stage.

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    ARB does not offer a suspension kit for the new 4x2 hi-lux.

    your best bet is body lift, front coil spring spacers and longer rear shackles.

    Carryboy does have fender flares but different design from the 4x4.

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    i guess with all the modifications that you'll be doing will result to more than the price of a 4X4 hilux..

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    Oh I'm damned, I think made a wrong decision. I should have bought a D-max, hah!
    anyway, thanks for your info but i will limit my upgrades to 200k. which doyou think i should upgrade/change, rim and tires will definitely be replace, what else? anyone knows who have fortuner mags and tires? i heard a lot of fortuner owners changed their stock mags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut
    Oh I'm damned, I think made a wrong decision. I should have bought a D-max, hah!
    anyway, thanks for your info but i will limit my upgrades to 200k. which doyou think i should upgrade/change, rim and tires will definitely be replace, what else? anyone knows who have fortuner mags and tires? i heard a lot of fortuner owners changed their stock mags.
    I think you should consider adding fender flares to complement the bigger Fortuner rims and tires. If you are to upgrade to bigger wheels then you would need to lift the body, which is probably the most expensive and complex part. Add stepboard for easy ingress and egress. Lastly, paint the front bumper to match with body color, unless you can find gray fender flares in which case you dont have to paint the bumper since they probably match nicely. But let me warn you if you dont paint them, it might end up looking like planet orocan.

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    paint the front bumper to match with body color
    sometimes color-keyed bumpers are nuissance. i'd stick with black- even for the fender flares. and yes, stick with my suggestion before- street truck. unless you live in flood prone areas. should that be the case then there is the necessity to lift the truck. lift and new sets of rims/tires only. remember to get the 'negative' offset rims, to make it a more 'wider' look than usual.

    you say, 200K budget? go on sir, sell your hilux and upgrade to DMax! nothing to fix. hehehehe. joke only.
    Last edited by ian_rex; August 1st, 2006 at 05:36 AM.

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    for 200k you can make it look like a 4wd.

    1. fortuner mags wont fit your 2wd. yours have a 5 hole PCD 114 while 4wd/fortuner have 6 holes PCD139. a mags from the innova will fit.
    2. you can buy an adapter from Makna for the mags from 5 holes PCD 114 to PCD139 so that you can install mags that are offset.
    3. body lift it.
    4. fender flares ng 4wd.

    here in our place may gumawa na ng gusto mo. from afar it looks like a 4wd to the untrained eye. but if you are a cr nut you will know that its not.

    thing to consider when upgrading. with bigger tires
    1. acceleration will suffer.
    2. mileage will suffer.
    3. suspension components will suffer.
    4. clutch will suffer unless auto.
    5. brakes will suffer.

    in other words its not a good move IMHO.

    for you additional 200k you can sell your existing hi-lux and get a new or 2nd hand 2wd d-max for less. more power, safety features, all you need to add is the fashion bar that 4wds have.

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    4x4 Sticker/Emblem

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    Tusa snorkel.

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    Just change the rims and tires, messing with the stock suspension without proper supervision is like opening a can of worms. The J version of the Hilux is like a blank canvass, plenty of potential to be creative and make that certain statement. Take it one step at a time, get advice from the experts and you won't go wrong. Good luck with your project.

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    Make sure also to slap lots of mud all over your "truck". Real off roader think clean trucks are for p**sy.

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