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  1. Join Date
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    Hi Guys,

    Help Lang po.

    Hindi naman mahirap i start, pero kailangan tapakan ang accelarator to increase the RPM sa umaga for about 10sec to 20 secs.

    Kasi pag ka start at di ko tinapakan ang accelarator eh namamatay parang pupugak pugak.

    Dati hindi naman ganon.

    Spark Plug po kaya ang problema?

    Salamat sa mg cocomment.

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    Kung sparl plug ang duda mo sir, maganda siguro ay palitan mo na ang mga ito total hindi naman yan kamahalan.



    Mahirap naman kasi mag-sabi kung ano talaga ang problema ng auto mo.

    Mas maganda rin siguro kung malaman natin kung EFI o karburador ang ginagamit ng makina nito.


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    Quote Originally Posted by isa1023 View Post
    Kung sparl plug ang duda mo sir, maganda siguro ay palitan mo na ang mga ito total hindi naman yan kamahalan.



    Mahirap naman kasi mag-sabi kung ano talaga ang problema ng auto mo.

    Mas maganda rin siguro kung malaman natin kung EFI o karburador ang ginagamit ng makina nito.


    Ay sorry po di ko napost details.

    Corolla Big body 1995 xl with 2E engine carburated type.

    Ang current Spark plug ko po ay ung 4 split tip type.

    Di ko lam kung mejo sira na pero mga 3 months plang ko tio gamit.

    Di ko din alam king compatible itong ganito spark plug sa 2E engine,

    But as you have mentioned, try ko na nga lang palitan and see what happens.

    Reply ko po dito how it turns out for everyones info na din,

    Thanks..

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    Check mo muna sir kung compatible, pero in the first place hindi gagana yan nung una pa lang kung incompatible siya. Tsaka three months pa lang, bago pa pala siguro naman ok pa yan.

    Dahil karburador and sa makina niyo, wag na po kayo magtaka kung bakit bigla nalang nagkaganyan.Maaring epekto yan ng gasolinang kinakarga mo.

    E10 ba?

    Try niyo po muna mag Petron Blaze baka sakaling mawala.

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    manual choke ba yan o automatic choke? check mo kung gumagana pa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    manual choke ba yan o automatic choke? check mo kung gumagana pa..

    Auotmatic Choke po siya and gumagana po ng ayos yung choke nya.
    Bimatallic springs working fine pati ung choke hold valve po.

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    hindi po iyan spark plugs for sure. kung erratic idling siguro baka pwedeng ito pa ang sanhi.

    BTT : tingin ko air-fuel mixture or madumi ang carb mo. try changing the fuel filter too, all I can say related sa fuel ang problema mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben_david19 View Post
    hindi po iyan spark plugs for sure. kung erratic idling siguro baka pwedeng ito pa ang sanhi.

    BTT : tingin ko air-fuel mixture or madumi ang carb mo. try changing the fuel filter too, all I can say related sa fuel ang problema mo.
    Kaka palit lang po ng air filter and fuel filter,
    try ko sprayan yung carb po kasi baka madumi na nga.

    Di po kaya sa lakas ng kuryente na napunta sa spark plugs? kasi kung mahina spark and malamig makina di ganon kaganda pa ang sunog?

    could that be a possibility? hence sa distributor? pano ko po ma check yun?

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    try cleaning your carb first pa rin, ito po ang suspect ko.

    if same results (i think it should be okay by now but if not..), baka may carbon ang distributor mo. try mong ipalinis ito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben_david19 View Post
    try cleaning your carb first pa rin, ito po ang suspect ko.

    if same results (i think it should be okay by now but if not..), baka may carbon ang distributor mo. try mong ipalinis ito.
    Ok Sir I'll try doing this,

    Just for info, magkano po ang palinis ng distributor or any DIY for distributor cleaning?

    Thanks..

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    I have the same problem as you do, pag cold start kailangan i-warm up kumbaga yung engine for 15-20 seconds para lang mag normal yung idle.

    It's as if nasira yung idle up.

    I don't think spark plugs ang problem, or yung distributor. Napansin ko nalang yung car ko ganyan na right after siya na-Ondoy... pero di naman nalubog yun makina or distributor. Please do let us know kung na-solve mo yung problem.. di naman siya ganun kalaking problema kasi pag warm start ok naman, pero nakakainis lang.

    btw changing gas to non-E10 doesn't work, I've already tried Caltex gold nung di pa siya E10 at Blaze, same problems. napalitan ko na rin hiten wires at distributor rotor wala pa rin. it's somewhere in there, but it's hard to troubleshoot kasi nga the engine has to be cold so kailangan niya i-homeservice or iwan sa talyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanatej View Post
    I have the same problem as you do, pag cold start kailangan i-warm up kumbaga yung engine for 15-20 seconds para lang mag normal yung idle.

    It's as if nasira yung idle up.

    I don't think spark plugs ang problem, or yung distributor. Napansin ko nalang yung car ko ganyan na right after siya na-Ondoy... pero di naman nalubog yun makina or distributor. Please do let us know kung na-solve mo yung problem.. di naman siya ganun kalaking problema kasi pag warm start ok naman, pero nakakainis lang.

    btw changing gas to non-E10 doesn't work, I've already tried Caltex gold nung di pa siya E10 at Blaze, same problems. napalitan ko na rin hiten wires at distributor rotor wala pa rin. it's somewhere in there, but it's hard to troubleshoot kasi nga the engine has to be cold so kailangan niya i-homeservice or iwan sa talyer.
    Nice to know I'm not alone in this

    Actually yesterday I openned my carburetor and saw that the choke wasn't closed enough when I was about to start the car. The wire for the bi metallic assembly was on the way so I re-positioned the wires.

    But this morning it started OK for 3secs mejo mataas ung Idle (this should be normal) kaya lang after 3 secs bumbaba ulit ung idle.

    So I think what happens is the Choke pull off might be openning the choke too much already kaya mataas ung hangin sa A/F ratio during starting kaya mejo pupugakpugak na naman.

    ang alam ko kasi dapat during cold starting, the choke should be fully closed, and unti-unti sya i oopen ng bi metallic spring (habang umiinit ung engine).

    So I think what happens is na oopen agad yung choke.

    I will check ulit maya, office kasi ako kaya do ko matutukan


    Any ideas is welcome, thanks

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    *jack - diba nga suspect ko sa carb mo talaga, meaning air-fuel mix ratio hehe. sir ayaw mong kumuha ng bagong carb na?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ben_david19 View Post
    *jack - diba nga suspect ko sa carb mo talaga, meaning air-fuel mix ratio hehe. sir ayaw mong kumuha ng bagong carb na?
    Oo nga sir, kaya chineck ko kahapon dahil sa point mo, thanks sa feedback, very helpfull talaga ito site na to!

    Ang carb ko sir is Corolla 2E engine

    Toyota Aisan carburetor Part no. 21100-11890
    Di ko sir alam kung magkano price nito eh,
    Any idea?
    Thanks

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    Baka naman puwede yung spring lang yung palitan if it opens the choke too soon, I will also try to observe my car tomorrow morning and see if the choke is partially open as well.

    Sa surplasan sigurado may carb ng 2E... around 1K lang sya

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    ha?! nasa 1k lng carb surplus ng 2e engine? medyo ok naman pala price, kaya lang tyambahan din kung matino mabibili.

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    You'd be surprised at how many junked 2E engines and engine parts there are in this country... never thought it'd be the carb, sa kaso ko kasi di naman nabaha carb ko, pero baka nga worn out na yung spring na nagsasara ng choke.

    In any case maybe a carb overhaul might solve the problem? It's cheaper than a whole carb.

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    hello po. may i had the same case dati sa umaga mababa idling nanginginig then namamatay kapag pa reverse nko, then nainis ako dinala ko sa carb specialist sa may kamuning. Sinabi ko problema nakinig naman ang doctor ng carb specialist eh, ayun na overhauled dami na worn out parts. Pagkatapos ginawa naging OK na sa umaga but everymorning taas ng idling up to 1.5 rpm DONT YOU WORRY! sabi ng nila dito sa tsikot normal lang yan sa bagong gawang carburador then after 1-2 minutes balik sa 8.5 rpm kapag walang aircon 9-1k rpm kapag may aircon. PROMISE THIS IS TRUE just go to kamuning. God Bless you all

Baba ng RPM pagka start sa umaga, Spark Plug Ba?