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July 4th, 2008 09:27 AM #1press release lang yan. remember 2010 is an election year. so come 2011 new administration na. so new studies, new budget and new "negotiations"
even if they do buy new planes, i doubt they will have enough left over to fly them. planes need a lot of fuel and support equipment. anybody know how much 1 hour flying time cost?
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July 4th, 2008 10:44 AM #2
Ang tanong, kaya bang paliparin ng mga air force people yan. Baka mamaya gawing pang test drive tapos i crash lang. Sayang ang maraming petot niyan.
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July 4th, 2008 11:50 AM #4The US Navy went for the F/A 18 due to serviceability and reliability (yeah, they're the ones who insist on a twin-engine layout, for safety reasons). It's designed to be robust and extremely serviceable. Besides that, the F18 is an excellent fighter-bomber... with the ability to dogfight commendably while carrying a full bomb load. Let's see the F16 do that, eh?
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I think the biggest challenge of the PAF is maintaining the aircraft. The PAF had some 40+ F5s in its inventory. But, only a fraction were flyable at any given time. So, the track record of the PAF isn't really good. That's the trend they need to reverse.
That's why if I was to be the one to decide, I'd get the F-16 (the lowest cost) with strong logistics support, modern weaponry, and ample training time for the pilots. Well-trained pilots more than make up for any deficiency of the aircraft.
Add: Geeez. I can't believe the lack of faith of some people here with their own pilots. There were once a Philippine aerobatic team called the Blue Diamonds who were a match for other aerobatic teams around the world. If they can do it, why not now?.....
So defeatist. Tsk tsk. And people ask why Pinoys are looked down upon.Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; July 4th, 2008 at 12:06 PM.
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July 4th, 2008 12:06 PM #5another good question is the maintenance cost for these high tech fighters. imho much better to get the older ones na mas simple ang maintenance. and andami ka pang makukuhang surplus parts as other nations retires their planes B)
i'm a bit dubious about super high tech thingies; they're usually very costly and hard to maintain. di ba nagkaproblema ung apache sa Desert Storm, 'coz the sand messed up their electronics? the world's best attack chopper, grounded by sand B)
the MiGs probably offer a better deal. But then again, alam mo naman dito...
with regard to investments and stability...while i do agree that we should be able to defend ourselves, i think the biggest headaches of foreign investors is politics, not lack of military strength.
then there's the price of oil. magkano na kaya per barrel come 2011? i hope they can develop an LPG-fed fighter B)Last edited by badkuk; July 4th, 2008 at 12:13 PM.
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July 4th, 2008 02:00 PM #6as if we could afford to buy and maintain F-35's or F-16's
we might be better off buying A-4's. heck! the americans might even give it to us for free
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July 4th, 2008 02:40 PM #7mig-29s or Su-27s! these jets can land and take off from unpaved runways! they're resistant to extreme weather and are very cheap! with the aim of russia to be a major player in the arms sales once again, there shouldn't be any much quality or support issues. pero syempre, di papayag ang US. so balik tayo sa mas "realistic" hardware. surplus!
F-5E na lang. quantity over quality hehe. para may sukli pa pang C-130.
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July 4th, 2008 02:48 PM #8
Between the F16 and the F18 my bet is on the Electric Jet
1. It's pretty popular with neighboring countries (Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, etc) http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...t/f-16-fms.htm
2. I'm not sure if they're selling the Hornet to countries outside the US.
3. Hornet is too tough for our needs. It was designed for carrier landings. Two engines is a big plus though.
But nothing beats a Su-30 in terms of beauty
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July 4th, 2008 03:13 PM #9
Ok satin ang Gripen kung for defense lang talaga since low cost and yung rugged design nya pwede mag landing sa kahit anong patag na kalsada.
Ok din sakin Rafale since 2 engine sya plus walang "no strings attached" sa mga french hindi tulad ng USA na limited lang mabibili mo mga weapons and kapag hindi ka nila nagustuhan ay hindi ka makakabili ng spares para sa pang ayos ng eroplano mo. Yung 1 Rafale pwede kalabanin atleast 4 fighters at the same time.Last edited by jonski; July 4th, 2008 at 03:18 PM.
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December 18th, 2008 08:01 PM #10most likely just some 2nd hand trainer/combat planes considering the finances of our country
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