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    #1
    1st post ko to dito sa tsikot at sana may makatulong o makasagot sa aking mga tanong

    Kakabili ko lang sa anak ko ng 2nd hand na Toyota Fun Cargo, yes imported from Japan at all stock sya, so we tried it out for a week at smooth ang ride nya kaso medyo maliit yung tires nya kasi 14" lang kaya binilhan ko sya ng 17", after namin magpalit eh sobrang tagtag na sa mga lubak lubak unlike before nung stock pa yung gulong at lahat kami napansin yun, dahil ba bago rin ang gulong kaya matagtag dahil matigas pa?

    Paano kaya mawawala tagtag nito? Kailangan ba magpalit ng suspension? If yes, ano magandang ipalit na hindi sobrang mahal? Saan din maganda magpagawa? O may ibang mas magandang paraan para mabawasan ang tagtag maliban sa pagpapalit ng suspension o gulong?

    Salamat!

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    first of all... welcome to tsikot sir!

    regarding sa inquiry niyo, ano series ng goma niyo sir? usually kasi dun nagkakatalo yung riding comfort. more rubber = less tagtag, kung baga sa volume ng air nagkakatalo sir.

    yung sa oto ko, stock 13's 165/70/13 soobrang comfort, changed to 15's 195/50/15 ok lang pero mas matagtag. changed to 17's 205/40/17, hindi ko kinaya yung tagtag. balik 15's na more rubber 195/55/15. now im happy with the ride. hehe

    parang style, sacrifice comfort then... comfort, sacrifice style.

    edit: meron better suspension pero wala ako experience dito. "air ride" suspension, sooobrang ginto ng presyo. kasi kung change shocks and/or spring, i dont think it can fair any better than what you have as stock now.
    Last edited by archie123456789; October 30th, 2010 at 12:50 AM.

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    205/40/17 sir.. kapag 205/45/17 na kase tumatama na yung gulong eh, hindi ko alam tawag pero sumasabit na sya sa part ng kotse.. so nasa gulong pala talaga yun.. westlake tatak ng gulong sir, nasa tatak rin kaya yun?

    thanks sa pagsagot ng tanong ko sir.. ok lang naman daw sa anak ko yung matagtag kasi gumanda naman itsura, pero hindi ba nakakasira ng oto yun kapag matagtag talaga?

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    tumatama sa loob ng front fenders,o wheel well...kasi masyadong malaki na mga gulong...

    ganun na talaga, porma vs. riding comfort...
    Last edited by desert fox; October 30th, 2010 at 09:20 PM.

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    Ayun! Fender nga, yun din sabi sakin nakalimutan ko lang

    So ganun talaga pala? Kahit magpalit ako ng suspension eh magiging matagtag parin yung ride? How about yung car? Hindi ba pwedeng may masira kapag sobrang tagtag? Lalo na ngayon dito sa metro na nagkalat ang lubak na daan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hangin View Post
    Ayun! Fender nga, yun din sabi sakin nakalimutan ko lang

    So ganun talaga pala? Kahit magpalit ako ng suspension eh magiging matagtag parin yung ride? How about yung car? Hindi ba pwedeng may masira kapag sobrang tagtag? Lalo na ngayon dito sa metro na nagkalat ang lubak na daan?
    Usually sisirain nyan suspension parts ng sasakyan...

    pwera pa madaling maoblong ang magz mo kapag nalulubak.....dahil nga less rubber ang mga gulong...

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    I see.. so dapat, if possible, dahan-dahan lang sa lubak para hindi ma-oblong ang mags? (malalim man o mababaw?)

    Ty sir sa pagsagot ng mga tanong ko.

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    same problem mga sir..

    i drive 02 Altis, 17" mags, lowered. sobrang tagtag talaga and tingin ko sira na suspension.

    ano po marerecommend nyo para maayus? balak ko kasi magpalit ng suspension baka sakaling gumanda ride kahit papaano.

    malaki rin po ba epekto ng pagkalowered sa tagtag nya?

    kung meron po kayong mairerecommend na shop, pakireply na rin po,balak ko kasi paayos this weekend.

    maraming salamat!

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    *brohangin, sa lubak talagang dahan dahan...parang paghaplos ke misis....

    *brojohn, baka naman matagal na mga shocks mo?coil springs?

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    Compromise to a smaller rim diameter and a taller profile. That's the only way to go.

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    not an expert mga sir.. but have you tried or heard about yung o-sulee spring cushions? i heard good and positive news about it. dami nag sasabi ng softer and quieter rides daw po. baka effective yun sa inyo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olidotcom View Post
    not an expert mga sir.. but have you tried or heard about yung o-sulee spring cushions? i heard good and positive news about it. dami nag sasabi ng softer and quieter rides daw po. baka effective yun sa inyo.
    +1 ako dito sir. susubukan ko ito sa jimny ko. kahit sa rear lang.

    subukan nyo po paltan ang hangin nyo from ordinary to nitro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desert fox View Post
    *brohangin, sa lubak talagang dahan dahan...parang paghaplos ke misis....

    *brojohn, baka naman matagal na mga shocks mo?coil springs?
    sir.. di pa ko nagpapalit ng shocks/coil springs... pamalit na ba kung 8 years na? sorry sir, no idea talaga. meron ba kayo marerecommend na brand?

    salamat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnrainier View Post
    same problem mga sir..

    i drive 02 Altis, 17" mags, lowered. sobrang tagtag talaga and tingin ko sira na suspension.

    ano po marerecommend nyo para maayus? balak ko kasi magpalit ng suspension baka sakaling gumanda ride kahit papaano.

    malaki rin po ba epekto ng pagkalowered sa tagtag nya?

    kung meron po kayong mairerecommend na shop, pakireply na rin po,balak ko kasi paayos this weekend.

    maraming salamat!
    yes bossing, malaki ang kinalaman ng lowered sa tagtag especially if hindi mo binago yung shock struts mo.

    main reason is that wala na yung computed "travel" ng suspension mo because of a lowered profile.

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    either of the two, lowered or big wheels = tagtag


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    Quote Originally Posted by myko11 View Post
    +1 ako dito sir. susubukan ko ito sa jimny ko. kahit sa rear lang.

    subukan nyo po paltan ang hangin nyo from ordinary to nitro.


    going nitro won't make any significant difference IMHO. regular air will do just fine (which is mostly nirogen anyway) more rubber and lesser rim diameter would help.

    anybody tried that o-sulee spring cushion? feedbacks please

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTCH*! View Post
    going nitro won't make any significant difference IMHO. regular air will do just fine (which is mostly nirogen anyway) more rubber and lesser rim diameter would help.

    anybody tried that o-sulee spring cushion? feedbacks please
    a number of fortuner owners has it. (researched from their forum website) they said that they estimated between 15 to 30% softer ride. even on the o-sulee site has their 'recommended ad and their club logo'

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnrainier View Post
    sir.. di pa ko nagpapalit ng shocks/coil springs... pamalit na ba kung 8 years na? sorry sir, no idea talaga. meron ba kayo marerecommend na brand?

    salamat!
    anak ka ng teteng broJohn, 8 years na pala .....ano ba gusto mo paabutin ng isang dekada(2 years na lang)...palitan mo na....madaming magagandang brands ngayon naglalabasan shocks,dun ka sa trusted name na pagdating sa shocks...

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    Wala bang soft-ride/hard-ride yung Fortuner? Older Toyota SUVs meron (yung 4x4 - Prado, Cruiser, 4Runner/Surf).

    O-sulee we tried just last week sa Honda City (with 15" rims, r60 tire na michellin and nitro) and yup it was less sensitive to road noise. Sa rear lang so I might fit one more set sa front. Got mine from Cruven medyo mahal na today kasi last month P1,800 lang pero ngayon P2,400 na. Sales talk ng Cruven e mas comfortable daw yung ride mo plus less damage from regular use sa shock absorbers mo. Ewan kung tutuo nga. Time will tell.

    Do buy from Cruven. Marami daw size O-sulee at try nila fit sa car ninyo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTCH*! View Post
    going nitro won't make any significant difference IMHO. regular air will do just fine (which is mostly nirogen anyway) more rubber and lesser rim diameter would help.

    anybody tried that o-sulee spring cushion? feedbacks please
    Currently using Nitrogen on my tires ( *30PSi )

    Ride is softer than the usual 30PSi when I'm still using the normal pumped air.

Solusyon para sa matagtag na sasakyan?