Gas Shock Absorber... Matigaas ba talaga?

[DeltaBravo]

Hihingin ko lang sana ang opinion nyo guys.....

I'm not yet familiar to my second hand car (suzuki esteem). Para sa akin okey ang "bounce" nya (lubak and uneven road) since 2 weeks ko pa lang sya hawak (sanay ako sa fx lang). When my friend tried to test drive the Esteem, wala daw "bounce" or matigas ang shock sa harapan. Dapat daw may konting play.

From the service record, all the 4 shocks (gas) were replaced last June 2002 by GM Autoworld (CASA). I'm not sure kung original shock or replacement na lang. Pero mahal sya...5K+ ang isa. Then october 2002 all the 4 tires were replaced by Falken (185 60 R14). Again it's the standard tire size.

The manual specified the McPherson type daw ung suspension system.

Now may question is....talaga bang matigas ang gas shock? is there a way para magkatroon ng play?

Sinubukan ko na ung standard testing na ididiin yung isang side ng car at tingnan kung paano nag bounce at ang napansin ko ay balik kaagad sa dati nyang taas or position. Hindi sya ung mula sa pagkadiin ay tatalbog ng isang medyo mataas tapos balik sa original position.

By the way, ano ang difference ng "strut" at shock absorber.
Tulong naman... thanks

[kimpOy]

gas shocks are stiffer than liquid type shocks but not harsh
ang mahal naman ng shocks mo

ako naglagay ako ng rancho sa pickup ko, night and day ang kaibahan.
not harsh ride, but handling improved
3000 each only

[DeltaBravo]

Yes sir kimpoy, mahal sa GM autoworld Shaw....pero hindi ako ang nagbayad :lol: ...ung dating owner. Hindi kaya original shocks ung pinalit?

Katatanong ko nga lang sa auto supply eh..yung kYB brand na gas is 2,300 lang.

thanks..

[1D4LV]

yup. mas firm and stiff ang gas shocks.... more durable too.

[buddyclub]

yup! mas stiffer tlga ang gas shocks compred sa liquid..& agree ako kay happy_gilmore mas ok ang quality ng gas shocks ..

[redefine]

By the way, ano ang difference ng "strut" at shock absorber.
Tulong naman... thanks

Strut refers to the whole assy (shocks and coil spring), while shocks refers to the shock absorber itself. hth.

[roydok]

Yup, mas matigas nga po ang gas shocks compared to fluid shocks.

[MUTTLEY]

I REPLACED MY STOCK SHOX WITH BILSTEIN LAST YEAR DEC ('96 VTI) . BUT NOW D KO NA ALAM ANG DIFF. :roll::roll:

[Cale]

for my self...i have a Bilstein gas shock absorbers..its an oem for my toyota tacoma pick up truck, the is very soft though....check out my set at pbase...
peace out ya all
cale..

[meleagant8]

mas durable naman ung gas shox eh...pero each to his own...

[pajerokid]

Im gonna try Rancho fluid shocks next time.

Cale,

Dude, your bilsteins are soft? Whats the color of the Cylinder casing? Is it blue/yellow or silver? Ive heard that bilsteins are one of the stiffest around :D

[Cale]

PajeroKid,
dude, its the yellow and blue..an oem from toyota and bilstein...its the TRD stuff
check my pbase gallery....peace bro
cale/ www.pbase.com/caleeric

[vinj]

AFAIK, whether it be gas or fluid, what will make a difference in the comfort would be the damping rates... Most gas shocks we have here locally are OEM replacement on the damping rates, thus this is why the comfort should not really vary much. I do prefer gas shocks over fluids as well.

My .002

[goldencoil]

Medyo confused ako.

Diba isa sa mga purpose nang shocks eh para sa comfort nang nasa loob nang vehicle pag may lubak? Kung matigas nga yung Gas Shocks, eh di ramdam na ramdam mo yung lubak sa kalsada. May "bouncing" feel pa ba yun or you have to wait for sometime para maramdaman yun?

I'd want to go for Gas for durability pero magiging hesitant ako kung nde naman ako comfortable sa loob.

Sensya na baka exaggerated naman ako. I may have understood it wrongly. I will appreciate any corrections.

[boybi]

both have its pros and cons. mas stiff ang gas shocks pero mas better ang handling, mas hindi nagssway kapag nagcocorner ka.

ang liquid shocks, malambot pero sasayaw ang kotse mo kapag nagcocorner ka.

kaya nasasayo na yan kung ano ang mas importante sayo, handling or comfort. kung dahandahan ka naman magcorner (hindi ka naman siguro nagsslalom ), and gusto mo talagang malambot ang rides, mag liquid shocks ka nalang. although, pwede mo naman laruin ang pressure ng gulong mo kapag mag gas shocks ka para maabsorb ng kaunti ang mga bumps.

[GlennSter]

gas shocks like KYB'S are not REALLY BOUNCY.hindi naman matagtag like that of PUTOL SPRINGS na talagang scrambbled eggs ang kalalabasan mo.

gas shocks are stiff-ER but not really STIFF.

[quiksie]

So ano mas prefer niyo matagtag o bouncy?

[Tacoma_34]

I am using gas shocks sa front(Tokico) and rear(KYB) with matching H&R okay naman sya 2 " drop pa. Pinutulan ko pa ng isang ikot ang rear na springs para talagang mababa.OT na ba?

[bad driver]

hello, have a gen3 paj. and plan to go Bilsteins sana. (coz I love my car and want the best parts for it) hehe. also hoping to have a more luxurious ride quality.

Questions po:

1)significant ba ang change? and is it worth it? or Ok na ang stock indy suspension ng New Paj?
2)Do I have to change my springs? what brand?
3)san ko papagawa ito? mahal ba pag sa wheels gallery? or hanap nalang ako sa banawe?

gusto ko po sana maimprove ang ride comfort. para I could cruise through lahat ng maliit na lubak.

So performance and comfort ba e hindi pwede mag mix?

thanks po

BTW, napanood nyo ba sa rides yung bagong technology na shocks. liquid metal. hehe. parang metal powder in oil yata yun. pag minagnetize, titigas, then pag tinanggal yung magnetism, flows like water! astig.

[ARB]

try mo OME, we have shocks and springs for your 3rd gen pajero, it will also lift it up by 50mm.