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    "Just wanted to get your comments on this article."

    DON'T EAT TOO MUCH RICE

    The human body was never meant to consume rice! You see, our genes have
    hardly changed in more than 30,000 years. However, our food choices and
    lifestyle have changed dramatically. The caveman would hardly recognize
    our food or way of life. Caveman food was never cooked as fire was not
    yet tamed. Thus, he ate only those foods that you can eat without
    treatment with or by fire. He ate fruits, vegetables, fish (sushi
    anyone?), eggs, nuts and meat. Yes, even meat. You can even eat meat
    raw if you were starving in the forest. You have the necessary enzymes
    to digest meat.

    However, rice, like wheat and corn, cannot be eaten raw. It must be
    cooked. Even if you were starving in the desert, you cannot eat rice in
    the raw form. This is because we do not have the system of enzymes to
    break rice down. You were never meant to eat rice. To make matters
    worse, you not only eat rice, but also make it the bulk of your food.

    In some parts of Asia, rice forms up to 85% of the plate. Even if you
    take rice, keep it to a minimum. Remember, it is only for your tongue -
    not your body. Actually, rice and other grains like wheat and corn are
    actually worse than sugar. There are many reasons:

    Rice becomes sugar - lots of it
    This is a fact that no nutritionist can deny: rice is chemically no
    different from sugar. One bowl of cooked rice is the caloric equal of 10
    teaspoons of sugar. This does not matter whether it is white, brown or
    herbal rice. Brown rice is richer in fibre, some B vitamins and minerals
    but it is still the caloric equal of 10 teaspoons of sugar. To get the
    same 10 teaspoons of sugar, you need to consume lots of kangkong - 10
    bowls of it.

    Rice is digested to become sugar.
    Rice cannot be digested before it is thoroughly cooked. However, when
    thoroughly cooked, it becomes sugar and spikes circulating blood sugar
    within half an hour - almost as quickly as it would if you took a sugar
    candy. Rice is very low in the "rainbow of anti-oxidants"

    This complete anti-oxidant rainbow is necessary for the effective
    and safe utilisation of sugar. Fruits come with a sugar called
    fructose. However,they are not empty calories as the fruit is packed
    with a whole host of other nutrients that help its proper assimilation
    and digestion.

    Rice has no fibre. The fibre of the kangkong fills you up long before
    your blood sugar spikes. This is because the fibre bulks and fills up
    your stomach. Since white rice has no fibre, you end up eating lots of
    "calorie dense" food before you get filled up. Brown rice has more fibre
    but still the same amount of sugar.

    Rice is tasteless - Sugar is sweet. There is only so much that you can
    eat at one sitting. How many teaspoons of sugar can you eat before you
    feel like throwing up? Could you imagine eating 10 teaspoons of sugar in
    one seating?

    Rice is always the main part of the meal - While sugar may fill your
    dessert or sweeten your coffee, it will never be the main part of any
    meal. You could eat maybe two to three teaspoons of sugar at one meal.
    However, you could easily eat the equal value of two to three bowls (20
    - 30
    teaspoons) of sugar in one meal. I am always amused when I see someone
    eat sometimes five bowls of rice (equals 50 teaspoons of sugar) and then
    asks for tea tarik kurang manis!

    There is no real "built in" mechanism for us to prevent overeating of
    rice How much kangkong can you eat? How much fried chicken can you eat?
    How much steamed fish can you eat? Think about that! In one seating, you
    cannot take lots of chicken, fish or cucumber, but you can take lots of
    rice. Eating rice causes you to eat more salt.

    As rice is tasteless, you tend to consume more salt - another villain
    when it comes to high blood pressure. You tend to take more curry that
    has salt to help flavor rice. We also tend to consume more ketchup and
    soy sauce which are also rich in salt.

    Eating rice causes you to drink less water. The more rice you eat, the
    less water you will drink as there is no mechanism to prevent the
    overeating of rice. Rice, wheat and corn come hidden in our daily food.
    As rice is tasteless, it tends to end up in other foods that substitute
    rice like rice flour, noodles and bread. We tend to eat the hidden forms
    which still get digested into sugar. Rice, even when cooked, is
    difficult to digest

    Can't eat raw rice? Try eating rice half cooked. Contrary to popular
    belief, rice is very difficult to digest. It is "heavy stuff". If you
    have problems with digestion, try skipping rice for a few days. You will
    be amazed at how the problem will just go away.

    Rice prevents the absorption of several vitamins and minerals. Rice when
    taken in bulk will reduce the absorption of vital nutrients like zinc,
    iron and the B vitamins.

    Are you a rice addict? Going rice-less may not be easy but you can go
    rice-less. Eating less rice could be lot easier than you think. Here are
    some strategies that you can pursue in your quest to eat less rice:

    Eat less rice - Cut your rice by half. Barry Sears, author of the Zone
    Diet, advises "eating rice like spice". Instead, increase your fruits
    and vegetables.

    Take more lean meats and fish.
    You can even take more eggs and nuts. Have "riceless" meals. Take no
    rice or wheat at say, breakfast. Go for eggs instead.

    Go on "riceless" days - Go "western" once a week.
    Take no rice and breads for one day every week. That can't be too
    difficult. Appreciate the richness of your food. Go for taste, colors
    and smells. Make eating a culinary delight. Enjoy your food in the
    original flavors.

    Avoid the salt shaker or ketchup. You will automatically eat less rice.

    Eat your fruit dessert before (Yes! No printing error) your meals. The
    fibre rich fruits will "bulk up" in your stomach. Thus, you will eat
    less rice and more fruits.
    Last edited by j_avonni; December 4th, 2005 at 06:50 PM.

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    I once asked a clinical dietician on the best way for a couch potato to still keep healthy despite lack of regular exercise. The advise I got was - don't eat starchy carbohydrates - rice in particluar; saying you only eat rice (or pasta) only if you intend to burn it (thru exercise or hard manual labor).

    Further explained that starchy carbs has chemical composition of C6-H10-O5 and when you add one molecule of water (H2O) becomes C6-H12-O6 which is sugar. Water is introduced during the digestion process and the resulting sugar should be burned or else it will get us very fat.
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    ....whoever wrote that article was probably not asian (filipino, vietnamese, malaysian, indonesian or thai descent) and probably have not gone to asia either to observe that most asians who eats rice are NOT as fat as americans who does not eat rice or hardly eat rice at all.

    Same logic of genetic evolution...our asian genes have evolved to sustain or utilize the nutrients from rice.

    Kung couch potato ka...kahit na anong kainin mo hindi ka pa rin magiging healthy....kulang sa advise sa iyo ang dietician mo kasi our body's primary need is to satisfy our ENERGY requirement...all metabolic functions ng katawan lies on ENERGY...we normally get this from sugars...but generally any material na merun C, H, & O..(proteins and fats/oil also have these molecules) can become the source of this energy...so kung kulang ang kain mo ng carbohydrates...the other nutrients will be re-diverted to become ENERGY pa rin.

    If we look at food, it is the EXCESS of this materials (carbo, protein and fats) which makes us fat. But as a whole may factor din ang metabolic needs ng katawan mo and our genetic metabolical function (hyper-metabolic genes will need more energy, proteins and fats). This explains bakit meron tao na kahit san-damakmak kumain e hindi naman tumataba.

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    have you tried eating you meals without rice. parang di kumpleto ang kinain at parang nanghihina ka.your body is already conditioned for that meal with rice.moderation lang ang kelangan.

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    there is a diet where it is prohibited to eat carbohydrate rich foods like potato, rice, corn and other cereals. that includes bread. you can eat as much meats (lean), even if it is cooked in oil. they have even proven that you can eat as much hamburgers as you want and not get fat BUT only as long as you don't eat the bun.

    another way to lessen rice intake is to drink a glass of water or juice before eating. this fills you up and you eat less.

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    atkins diet yun
    -no carb diet. yun ang pinagagawa sa kuya ko ng doctor nya ngayon. to lose around 20 pounds in 2 weeks. tingnan natin kung may effect. hehehe

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    Haha. Too many generalizations. Anything in excess can, and will mess you up. Actually, a protein-intensive diet can be a lot more dangerous, because it'll send your body into ketosis and mess up your kidneys.

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    Its actually NOT what one eats but rather it has a lot to do with amount of portion taken. Excess of anything is bad. Everything needs balance. Sorry for the generalizations.

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    to add, no matter what you eat, if you have a sloooow metabolism, you WILL get fat.

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    actually i tried eating lunch & dinner without rice. masama ang effect, the more i prohibit myself the more i crave for it...

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    torture un pag wlang rice!!!

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    I'll to be very careful on how I put this, since it is not my intention to offend anyone but rather I'm trying to state some facts I noticed.

    *Notice those sardines ads that ran in the major papers years ago, that showed a some sardines placed on top of a heap of rice. (Notice the target market of the ads).

    *While eating buffet in a hotel, I saw a Caucasian accompanied by a couple of his Filipina "girlfriends". The Filipinas got a big plate and filled it up with a large heap of white rice. With some a sidedish or ulam, that's all they ate from a wide variety of choices in the buffet.

    *During a plant visit, I notice the workers fill their plates with a heap of rice and usually eat with noticeably small portion of ulam. Oftentimes, they throw away whatever rice they cant finish.

    Based on the observations above (but not limited to), an unscientific hypothesis can be made which is that it is mostly blue collar workers and the masa are usually the ones that have the majority in percentage of rice portions in their every meals since rice is more affordable than ulams and rice (esp consumed in large quantities) can actually make one feel full without having to spend so much on ulams.

    On the other hand, the middle and rich are usually health conscious and can usually afford to splurge on better quality and right quantity of foods (although not necessarily healthy). I notice these people are not big consumers of rice.

    Of course, these are all anecdotes based on casual observations so therefore exceptions do apply in every case.
    Last edited by number001; December 5th, 2005 at 12:08 AM.

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    for the people that crave rice when you dont get it, i think the body actually goes through some kind of withdrawal when you stop eating all carbs (not just rice)

    regarding the no-carb diet, i tried it once when i tried to get cut - it didn't work but i did lose 15 lbs - and at the start it did feel weird. i had no energy, i couldn't lift as much or as often as i used to, and i started getting easily irritable. but it worked. i eventually stopped because of concerns about my high-cholesterol and fat intake from all the meat (even the lean) and eggs

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    Wala nang relevance yang article na yan tungkol sa pagkain ng RICE. Naka-graduate nako ng High School at College sa lakas kong kumain ng isang bandehadong RICE, wala namang epek na masama sakin.

    Yung mga uncle ko na 60+ years old na, lumaki sa RICE at dinildil na OKRA (ayon sa kwento nila... lam nyo namang mag-kwento ang mga matatanda, EXAG!) eh wala namang nagkasakit dahil sa sobrang pagkain ng RICE.

    Siguro pwede pa CARBOHYDRATE in general.... lalo na kung diabetic...

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    Asian countries where rice is the staple food, like china puro slim figures nila. very rare ang mataba talaga.

    sa U.S. hindi rice staple food nila. pero ang daming obese sa kanila?

    have you watched the documentary Supersize Me?

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    may mga diabetis patients nagtataka kumbakit nakuha nila yun sakit na yun eh nde naman daw sila kumakain o mahilig sa matamis.

    pero noon nag-training ako sa Thailand for 3 week dati, puro rice meals kinain namin dun. pagbalik ko, gulat ako nag-lose pa ako ng weight more than 10 pounds eh naka 2-3 rice meals per meal kami.

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    There are 2 types of carbs, simple and complex. Simple carbs can be found in white sugar but can also be found in more nutritious form such as fruit and milk. Complex carbs, also known as starch, includes grain products - bread, pasta and rice. Refined grain such as white rice have been processed, which removes nutrients and fiber. It is pleasant to the taste buds but not sweet. However, unrefined grains contains vitamins and minerals and are rich in fiber. Fiber is essential to feel full, so you are less likely to overeat these food.
    Complex carbs are also broken down into 2 groups; high-fiber and low fiber. High-fiber complex carbs are not digestible, at least not by human beings, because we do not have the enzyme to do the job. (insert the enzyme part of the article) Cows have that enzyme; this enables them to get calories out of grass. Examples of low-fiber, complex carbs are banana, cereals, grains, potato and rice. It matters not if a carb is simple or complex. After digestion, it appears in the circulatory system in the simple form, as glucose, on its way to the cells where it is used for energy. Most carbs come from cereals and grains, both products of the agricultural revolution. Our bodies are
    not genetically designed to thrive on large amounts of these fiberless complex carbs. With the popularity of cereal- and grain-based "health diets," carbohydrate metabolism has been upset in approximately 3/4 of the population which simply cannot handle this large load of carbs.
    Bottomline, everything in excessiveness is bad.
    Which leads to why America has a high percentage of overweight and/or obesity. The land where you can find food served in serious GENEROUS portions. The land where you can supersize the kingsize just by adding a
    few pennies.
    Last edited by V-dub*chic; December 5th, 2005 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V-dub*chic
    There are 2 types of carbs, simple and complex. Simple carbs can be found in white sugar but can also be found in more nutritious form such as fruit and milk. Complex carbs, also known as starch, includes grain products - bread, pasta and rice. Refined grain such as white rice have been processed, which removes nutrients and fiber. It is pleasant to the taste buds but not sweet. However, unrefined grains contains vitamins and minerals and are rich in fiber. Fiber is essential to feel full, so you are less likely to overeat these food.
    Complex carbs are also broken down into 2 groups; high-fiber and low fiber. High-fiber complex carbs are not digestible, at least not by human beings, because we do not have the enzyme to do the job. (insert the enzyme part of the article) Cows have that enzyme; this enables them to get calories out of grass. Examples of low-fiber, complex carbs are banana, cereals, grains, potato and rice. It matters not if a carb is simple or complex. After digestion, it appears in the circulatory system in the simple form, as glucose, on its way to the cells where it is used for energy. Most carbs come from cereals and grains, both products of the agricultural revolution. Our bodies are
    not genetically designed to thrive on large amounts of these fiberless complex carbs. With the popularity of cereal- and grain-based "health diets," carbohydrate metabolism has been upset in approximately 3/4 of the population which simply cannot handle this large load of carbs.
    Bottomline, everything in excessiveness is bad.
    Which leads to why America has a high percentage of overweight and/or obesity. The land where you can find food served in serious GENEROUS portions. The land where you can supersize the kingsize just by adding a
    few pennies.

    to understand better, watch Supersize Me hehe

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    It has been suggested that the "bangungot" phenomenon which is prevalent in Asian countries has been linked to eating rice!

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    imho. eat right lang. not too little, not too much. everything should be taken in moderation, ika nga...

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