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    Kaya pala ilan years na tataka ako bakit nag-iba lasa mamam ko juice eh pinalitan from cane sugar to HFCS.

    Lalo na softdrinks pag basa mo label grabe may halo pa artificial sweetener aspartame !!!!

    Naapproved importation nito panahon ni noynoy.

    Dapat lang iban ito ni presdu. Mas masarap pag tunay na asukal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    Kaya pala ilan years na tataka ako bakit nag-iba lasa mamam ko juice eh pinalitan from cane sugar to HFCS.

    Lalo na softdrinks pag basa mo label grabe may halo pa artificial sweetener aspartame !!!!

    Naapproved importation nito panahon ni noynoy.

    Dapat lang iban ito ni presdu. Mas masarap pag tunay na asukal.
    its dangerous, the body doesnt know what to do wity it, unlike sugar from sugar cane

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_BIG18 View Post
    its dangerous, the body doesnt know what to do wity it, unlike sugar from sugar cane
    Nagkasabay tayo ng post above.

    Meron politics pala sa HFCS vs philippine sugar industry.

    Para sa akin dapat parang yosi na ilabel dangers ng HFCS if continue gagamitin sweetener. Ang nakakatakot kung sa baked goods like donuts, cakes eh yan ginagamit kasi wala label.

    Pero kung ako lang masunod total ban yan.

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    Personally ang important sa akin yung health ng majority. Hindi kung sino mawawalan ng trabaho or kung nalulugi sugar industry.

    We have the best sugar in the world tapos inallow ipasok High Fructose Corn Syrup na inaayawan sa america at europe.


    BACOLOD CITY: Agriculture Secretary Emmanuel Piñol on Tuesday dared leaders of the sugar industry to show proof he is corrupt and he “will resign immediately.”

    “The days of bullying are over. You may have succeeded in doing that during the previous administration but you cannot do that to me,” Piñol said in a Facebook post entitled ‘AM I ANTI-FARMER, PRO COKE? I DON’T EVEN LIKE SOFTDRINKS’.

    He said “Coca Cola FEMSA Philippines and Pepsi Cola started relying heavily on the use of the prices of local sugar doubled compared to that of sugar coming from Thailand.”

    “Nobody complained about HFCS until the prices dropped from P1,800 per bag to P1,300 last week. That was when the Sugar Regulatory Administration [SRA], where I sit as Chairman of the Board, recommended to President [Rodrigo] Duterte that the import[ation] of HFCS should have a cap of just over 280,000 metric tons a year,” Pinol added.

    He pointed out that he was “supposed to join that meeting in Panacan, Davao City last February 16 but strong winds and heavy a small plane from Palawan to Davao City.”

    “President Duterte supported the SRA proposal and it led to the issuance of Sugar Order [SO] No. 3, which places a cap on the volume of HFCS to be imported and imposes stiff tariff and duties on the imported commodity.”

    “Following the issuance of SO No. 3, Coca Cola FEMSA, accompanied by the Mexican ambassador, and Pepsi Cola Philippines, met with me to ask for a dialogue with sugar industry stakeholders and the SRA so a win-win solution could be reached,” Pinol said, adding that they “are accusing me of oppressing sugar workers and stakeholders? May I just ask how much are you paying your sugarcane workers daily? Is it P80 or P100 per day?”

    “Look who is making money in the name of the poor sugar workers,” he said.

    On Monday, about 6,000 stakeholders held a rally in front of the Bacolod plant of Coca- Cola- FEMSA to denounce the soft drinks company’s use of High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS), which they claimed was “killing the sugar industry.”

    “Following the meeting with the executives of Coca Cola and Pepsi Cola, I recommended that the implementation of SO 3 be held in abeyance pending wider consultations to achieve a winwin solution, a recommendation which was supported by Trade and Industry Secretary Ramon Lopez,” Piñol said.

    “During [a] meeting in Malacañang to resolve the issue, a certain Manuel Lamata who is reportedly the president of the United Sugar Producers Federation of the Philippines kept on dropping the name of President Duterte and was rowdy and disrespectful to those who attended the meeting by raising his voice during the discussions,” the Agriculture secretary noted.

    Pinol said it was during the time of former President Benigno Aquino 3rd “when the use of HFCS was allowed by the government.”

    In a statement, Coca- Cola “maintained that it has always been and will continue to be a strong partner and driver of the Philippine sugar industry.”

    “A boycott [of] its products will threaten the Philippine sugar industry itself. We are thus dismayed by the call to boycott our products, made by members of the industry that we have long considered our partners. The truth is that the loss of sales from a boycott will hit the local communities the hardest,” it said.

    Coca- Cola said the “call to boycott our products, anchored on unfounded allegations made regarding the usage of HFCS, affects many more workers and consumers along the economic value chain than some of our partners in the sugar industry realize.”

    A study conducted by the University of the Philippines, cited by the SRA, found that the beverage industry uses 40 percent of the total Philippine sugar production, the beverage company added.

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    Yeah I read it in the internet. Mag-iiba talaga lasa ng softdrink. Yung mismong Mexican na nakasama ko dati nagsabi. Iba daw lasa ng Coca-cola sa US dahil corn syrup ang gamit kumpara dun sa Pinas at Mexico na cane sugar gamit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Yeah I read it in the internet. Mag-iiba talaga lasa ng softdrink. Yung mismong Mexican na nakasama ko dati nagsabi. Iba daw lasa ng Coca-cola sa US dahil corn syrup ang gamit kumpara dun sa Pinas at Mexico na cane sugar gamit.
    Meron variant sa US sa grocery store na cane sugar pa rin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Meron variant sa US sa grocery store na cane sugar pa rin.


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    They use high fructose corn syrup because it is cheaper. Then they came out with Coke "Life" - the green can. It supposedly has cane sugar and stevia instead of high fructose corn syrup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Iba daw lasa ng Coca-cola sa US dahil corn syrup ang gamit kumpara dun sa Pinas at Mexico na cane sugar gamit.
    Sorry to disagree, HFCS is already being used in all local soft drinks.

    Unimaginable?

    Read the label next time you buy a Coke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Sorry to disagree, HFCS is already being used in all local soft drinks.

    Unimaginable?

    Read the label next time you buy a Coke.

    img_0971.jpg
    It was not my observation. Read my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    It was not my observation. Read my post.
    Noted. ...

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    HFCS is main reason causing this obesity epidemic, decades ago there was sugar, people got fat but not morbidly..sad to say most products has hfcs coz its cheaper, from nido, milo, biscuits, corn flakes, c2 ice tea..lahat yan meron..consume it, it converts to fat agad...pero not just ordinary fat, but viceral fat..covers all your organs, starts sa liver then moves on to other organs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowslowbenz View Post
    Sorry to disagree, HFCS is already being used in all local soft drinks.

    Unimaginable?

    Read the label next time you buy a Coke.

    img_0971.jpg
    Ban all artificial sweeteners ( let's call them "fake sugar").

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    High fructose corn syrup is sugar.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. To a diabetic, they're all the same. They're all bad for you. Whether they're cane sugar, corn syrup, honey or molasses.

    High fructose corn syrup – don't be afraid, it's just sugar

    As long as you are ingesting the same number of sugar calories, you are still exposed to the same effects. All that changes with high fructose corn syrup versus cane sugar (which also contains fructose) is the proportion and attendant changes in glycemic index of the different sugars... fructose is actually absorbed slower, which makes it safer for diabetics... though in either case, it's better to cut back on any added sugar to the diet.

    Personally: Tax them all. Take all added sugars out of all drinks. I don't care if it's cane sugar, honey or molasses... sugar is sugar is sugar. And all our juices are swimming in needlessly added sweetness.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    [QUOTE=niky;2815132]High fructose corn syrup is sugar.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. To a diabetic, they're all the same. They're all bad for you. Whether they're cane sugar, corn syrup, honey or molasses.

    Ok, so, all these xxxxxx are all natural sugar, not artificial. Pardon my ignorance. Then, the reason for this debate (?) about sugar is the importation of cheaper alternatives, at the expense of our local sugar farmers. Na-politika na naman ang asukal. Anak ng ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    High fructose corn syrup is sugar.

    Sugar is sugar is sugar. To a diabetic, they're all the same. They're all bad for you. Whether they're cane sugar, corn syrup, honey or molasses.

    High fructose corn syrup – don't be afraid, it's just sugar

    As long as you are ingesting the same number of sugar calories, you are still exposed to the same effects. All that changes with high fructose corn syrup versus cane sugar (which also contains fructose) is the proportion and attendant changes in glycemic index of the different sugars... fructose is actually absorbed slower, which makes it safer for diabetics... though in either case, it's better to cut back on any added sugar to the diet.

    Personally: Tax them all. Take all added sugars out of all drinks. I don't care if it's cane sugar, honey or molasses... sugar is sugar is sugar. And all our juices are swimming in needlessly added sweetness.
    are we talking sugar as in sugar or glucose/glycogen included ?

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    Napansin ko lang ang soda malakas pumatay ng pneumonia virus


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    Meron pala bago sweetener na mas nakakatakot kasi disguise as "artificial flavor" (sweetmyx S617)

    Naku yung sinabi ko matino mug rootbeer eh hindi pa pala sigurado. Sana philippine version iba sa american version


    In what it called a “commercial milestone,” the local flavor company, Senomyx, announced in an Aug. 28,2015 press release that beverage giant PepsiCo would soon begin adding the new ingredient to two of its soft drinks — Manzanita Sol, nationwide, and Mug Root Beer, in two test markets in the United States.

    San Diego company’s new ‘sweetness enhancer’ draws scientists’ scrutiny - San Diego news from inewsource

    ‘Clean’ labels

    Shoppers can identify well-known artificial sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose by scanning ingredient labels. But they won’t be able to spot Senomyx’s sweetener enhancers so easily.

    Instead of being listed individually by name on ingredient labels, Pepsi is expected to list Sweetmyx S617 under the broad category of “artificial flavors.”

    “Since Senomyx flavor ingredients are part of a proprietary blended flavor mix,” Senomyx said in a written statement, “they are not individually listed on the ingredient statements of foods and beverages.”

    In 2005, Senomyx’s chief executive told The New York Times that it was “helping companies clean up their labels.”

    Lefferts and other scientists say categorizing sweetener enhancers as “artificial flavors” is misleading. After all, they say, many sweetness enhancers have no flavor of their own. They merely amplify the flavor of other sweeteners.

    FDA regulations state that “The term artificial flavor or artificial flavoring means any substance, the function of which is to impart flavor.” On its website, Senomyx states that its “flavor boosters don’t provide a sweet taste on their own.”

    “Sweetness enhancers should not be permitted to be considered artificial flavorings for the purpose of labeling,” the Center for Science in the Public Interest wrote in a March 2013 letter to the FDA. “Importantly, we believe that consumers would like to know when their taste buds are being influenced or manipulated by novel ingredients.”

High Fructose Corn Syrup - Ito na ginagamit sweetener sa softdrinks and juices