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    #231
    Quote Originally Posted by happymeal View Post
    I need a new car for 7 passengers. Innova is out of the list. Been there, done that.
    Dapat automatic for an old guy like me who is tired of manual cars.

    Carens is too expensive at 1.2M with Start/Stop button. Ang baba pa ng chin. Palagi kong nababangga sa parking.

    Livina is too narrow and uninspiring. Abot ko ang opposite window withouth stretching too much.

    Avanza is too narrow also and is taxi material.

    Spin na lang ba ang natitirang MPV option sa Pinas? I like the interiors and 6 speed AT at low NVH daw. At di sya taxi
    What do you mean on innova bro? Sa dami ng innova ngayon kaw lang ata nag comment ng ganyan...

    As per innova matagtag and vibration of engine felt hangang second row yun reklamo ko...




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    #232
    Quote Originally Posted by fitdrive View Post
    Accent crdi is 1.5L so you just proved my point,

    Dirty engine oil can be anything from Casa drum oil or technicians + supervisors conniving that they pretended to change oil but keep the unopened containers and sell to Sulit.com.ph. I have been offered many times by friends who said they know someone inside who sells oil at cheaper price. So dirty means you think your engine oil was changed at PMS but not ..

    Adventure, crosswind and revo has bigger displacement. I cannot really accept that today's technology no difference in displacement, when most cars today like the corollas are getting 1.8 to 2.0L and vioses getting out of the 1.3L,

    It's only the ford ecosport and the spin that's going backwards, mini-SUVs with 1.0L and 1.3L. To me that's still and wait and see in this unique country of ours Only in the Phil's.


    And besides, why did Chevy Phil's. Not release the AT version of this 1.3L spin diesel, bec. They too aren't sure of its power in the long run. At least with MT, their decision is safer.

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    Simple answer: carburated before, computerized high pressue direct injection today, and..

    Natural aspiration before, VG/VN turbocharging now makes a world of difference in engine power production nowadays

    2.5L diesel before = 1.3L diesel today. Just the way it is

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    #233
    I own three Innova po. It's enough na. The bunso has 10K pa lang. No bad vibes with them except the way the 3rd row folds.
    The Fiesta is coming (di yong ecoboost ). Then I want something in between. A Spin or its aleternative sana mga Xmas time. Basta wag Avanza.
    Saw the pics of the Suzuki Ertiga. Oks na sana na fold flat ang 3rd row. Pero not a fan of the rear aircon vents na parang yong old Rev-O namin.


    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    What do you mean on innova bro? Sa dami ng innova ngayon kaw lang ata nag comment ng ganyan...

    As per innova matagtag and vibration of engine felt hangang second row yun reklamo ko...




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    #234
    Quote Originally Posted by fitdrive View Post
    Accent crdi is 1.5L so you just proved my point,

    Dirty engine oil can be anything from Casa drum oil or technicians + supervisors conniving that they pretended to change oil but keep the unopened containers and sell to Sulit.com.ph. I have been offered many times by friends who said they know someone inside who sells oil at cheaper price. So dirty means you think your engine oil was changed at PMS but not ..

    Adventure, crosswind and revo has bigger displacement. I cannot really accept that today's technology no difference in displacement, when most cars today like the corollas are getting 1.8 to 2.0L and vioses getting out of the 1.3L,

    It's only the ford ecosport and the spin that's going backwards, mini-SUVs with 1.0L and 1.3L. To me that's still and wait and see in this unique country of ours Only in the Phil's.


    And besides, why did Chevy Phil's. Not release the AT version of this 1.3L spin diesel, bec. They too aren't sure of its power in the long run. At least with MT, their decision is safer.

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    Which point exactly?

    Do you have factual evidence to support this claim? If not, then I can simply consider it as plain hearsay.

    I guess you'd better start exploring out of your so called comfort zone.

    The power and torque differences as well as fuel efficiency of the engines mentioned differ by only around 10-30% but are of the same displacement as their yesteryears' carbureted and EFI counterparts with no VVT. We're talking about old school N/A and turbodiesels versus modern common rail turbodiesels here where the differences in power and torque are more than 70-100% given the same displacement.

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    #235
    Any pros and cons between spin LS MT vs spin LTZ AT? Same lang kasi ng price.

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    #236
    Quote Originally Posted by k0mpressor View Post
    Which point exactly?

    Do you have factual evidence to support this claim? If not, then I can simply consider it as plain hearsay.

    I guess you'd better start exploring out of your so called comfort zone.

    The power and torque differences as well as fuel efficiency of the engines mentioned differ by only around 10-30% but are of the same displacement as their yesteryears' carbureted and EFI counterparts with no VVT. We're talking about old school N/A and turbodiesels versus modern common rail turbodiesels here where the differences in power and torque are more than 70-100% given the same displacement.



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    #237
    Double post

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    #238
    Kailangan rin kaya ng EGR blanking nito para hindi mausok?

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    #239
    Quote Originally Posted by fitdrive View Post
    Accent crdi is 1.5L so you just proved my point,

    Dirty engine oil can be anything from Casa drum oil or technicians + supervisors conniving that they pretended to change oil but keep the unopened containers and sell to Sulit.com.ph. I have been offered many times by friends who said they know someone inside who sells oil at cheaper price. So dirty means you think your engine oil was changed at PMS but not ..

    Adventure, crosswind and revo has bigger displacement. I cannot really accept that today's technology no difference in displacement, when most cars today like the corollas are getting 1.8 to 2.0L and vioses getting out of the 1.3L,

    It's only the ford ecosport and the spin that's going backwards, mini-SUVs with 1.0L and 1.3L. To me that's still and wait and see in this unique country of ours Only in the Phil's.


    And besides, why did Chevy Phil's. Not release the AT version of this 1.3L spin diesel, bec. They too aren't sure of its power in the long run. At least with MT, their decision is safer.

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    In all markets of the Spin, GM has not released an AT version of the diesel Spin because there is none. The 1.3L diesel engine is a proven engine in Europe and India. A Fiat sourced diesel engine that is being used by Tata Motors and Suzuki in India for some of its vehicles. It is also used by Ford in some of their vehicles in Europe. Diesel fuel in India is somewhat as dirty as our diesel fuel but the engine is proven to be very reliable also. CRDi systems has brought wonders to diesel engines, the naturally aspirated, indirect injection diesel engines with 2.5L of displacement of the yesteryears have been outpowered and outtorqued by 1.3L to 1.7L diesel engines with CRDi and FGT turbos.

    By the way, the 1.3L diesel engine was co-developed by Fiat and GM way back in February 2003.

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