While I was driving to work early this morning, I finally finished listening to Joe Rogan’s conversation with Jacques Vallee. This is Joe Rogan’s bread and butter topics - Aliens/UFO - this is the kind of stuff that drew people to get to listen to his podcasts. It’s an escape from everyday stress to dreamland. Been hooked to JRE since the quarantine days of the last pandemic.

I also listen to Lex Fridman, brilliant guy, expert on AI tech. He’s got a boring tone and cadence, not a very entertaining conversationalist like JRE, but he asks smart questions that trigger intelligent convo.