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    I've known Datablitz for a very long time as one of the legit store of games and software, and even gaming consoles and peripherals. Is "piracy" the issue here o may something else pa


    Police on Monday raided a gaming and multimedia store in a popular Manila mall for allegedly selling pirated gaming software.

    The Philippine National Police's Criminal Investigation and Detection Group seized fake software in the raid, radio dzBB's Cecilia Villarosa reported.

    Raided was the branch of Datablitz at the Robinsons Ermita mall, based on a complaint by X-Play Online Games Inc.

    X-Play is the distributor of NBA 2K13 and other entertainment software products, the report said.

    The complaint prompted the Makati Regional Trial Court Branch 24 to issue the search warrant.

    SOURCE: PNP raids gaming store selling 'pirated' software | SciTech | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere
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    Yup, all their branches were visited by CIDG yesterday...Mali lang kasi hindi naman fake yung items na nakuha...hindi lang sila authorized to sell NBA 2K13 software products but afaik, legit naman yung products according dun sa nagpuntang CIDG dito sa office...

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    mukhang hindi nga fake. kakabili ko lang kasi 2 weeks ago ng 2k13 sa datablitz. baka nga hindi lang sila authorized. kaso AFAIK, hindi mo pwede i-confiscate yung mga parallel imports. kasi hindi naman yun fake. even with a certificate na exclusive yung distributor, wala yun sa batas.

    grey or parallel imports only shows the weakness of the exclusive distributor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    mukhang hindi nga fake. kakabili ko lang kasi 2 weeks ago ng 2k13 sa datablitz. baka nga hindi lang sila authorized. kaso AFAIK, hindi mo pwede i-confiscate yung mga parallel imports. kasi hindi naman yun fake. even with a certificate na exclusive yung distributor, wala yun sa batas.

    grey or parallel imports only shows the weakness of the exclusive distributor.
    and to think it was DataBlitz which did the investment and hard work in putting up branches, and importing the titles para lalong sumikat... although dapat lookout din nya yun na icorner na nya yung market by protecting his rights... getting "exclusive" rights as much as possible from the manufacturer / brand owner... para safe sya...

    this way.. bad publicity may affect Datablitz... depends on how the consumers who buy at Datablitz take the issue... pero kung come hell or high water may support base na talaga ang Datablitz.. mag backfire pa yan sa so called "exclusive distributor"....

    it also may show on how weak or strong Datablitz is.. kung kaya nya mag source ng ganun kamura na mas mababa pa sa "exclusive distributor" then perhaps what the brand owner abroad should've done is to let Datablitz know first na may sumisingit na iba.. possibly no track record or doubtful track record to deliver the sales volume... then upto Datablitz kung ano gagawin nya....

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    Dami gumagawa ng parallel importation dito. Yung mga audio-video stores na sikat sa mga enthusiasts, usually parallel importation ang ginagawa dahil sobrang mahal magbenta ng local distributors. Di naman nagkaroon ng issue dyan. There must be something behind this raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wowiesy View Post
    and to think it was DataBlitz which did the investment and hard work in putting up branches, and importing the titles para lalong sumikat... although dapat lookout din nya yun na icorner na nya yung market by protecting his rights... getting "exclusive" rights as much as possible from the manufacturer / brand owner... para safe sya...

    this way.. bad publicity may affect Datablitz... depends on how the consumers who buy at Datablitz take the issue... pero kung come hell or high water may support base na talaga ang Datablitz.. mag backfire pa yan sa so called "exclusive distributor"....

    it also may show on how weak or strong Datablitz is.. kung kaya nya mag source ng ganun kamura na mas mababa pa sa "exclusive distributor" then perhaps what the brand owner abroad should've done is to let Datablitz know first na may sumisingit na iba.. possibly no track record or doubtful track record to deliver the sales volume... then upto Datablitz kung ano gagawin nya....
    I will still buy from datablitz, dito lang ako bumibili ng mga PS3 games ko actually pati unit and controllers sa kanila din ako bumili. They offer very good advice to buyers kung alin ang magandang bilihin na title and they give discounts to cash buyers.

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    hala, grabe namang pahiya to sa Datablitz, I've been a suki sa datablitz since I got my PS3.. Legit lahat ng copy nila, mura pa compared kung bibili ka sa ibang store. X-play? ang alam ko sa Online gaming thing sila e pero shocked ako na sila pala ang exclusive distributor ng 2k13 dito sa Pinas. They did not even advertise na sila ang mag-didistribute ng 2k13. weeew. Datablitz has to take action on this, their branding is on the line.

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    Politically news report...

    P2.65-M worth of unauthorized gaming software seized from DataBlitz stores
    By: J.M. Tuazon, InterAksyon.com
    November 6, 2012 3:12 PM

    MANILA, Philippines -- Illegally sourced software products worth P2.65 million were seized by the Philippine National Police's Criminal Investigation and Detection Group (CIDG) from several outlets in Metro Manila of a major gaming and software store.

    Police conducted raids in DataBlitz outlets based on a complaint filed against the store by X-Play Online Games, Inc., a local distributor of computer gaming software and operator of online multiplayer games.

    "This stemmed from the complaint lodged by the head of security of IPE-G, the owner of X-Play," CIDG spokesperson Sr. Insp. Kim Gonzales toild InterAksyon.com in a phone interview Monday night.

    X-Play, a joint venture between IP E-Games Inc. and GMA New Media, Inc., is the exclusive distributor of Blizzard and NBA computer gaming titles in the Philippines.

    Eleven search warrants against DataBlitz were issued by the courts, which "were applied last October 31," according to Gonzales.

    The DataBlitz branches raided by the police are located in Megamall, Market! Market!, Robinson's Galleria, Rockwell Power Plant, Greenbelt, Expo Exchange, Virra Mall Greenhills, and Robinson's Magnolia, among other outlets.

    The software products in question include the recently released NBA 2K13 game, which is exclusively distributed locally by X-Play. DataBlitz has reportedly not been appointed by X-Play as a reseller for the said game title.

    Other gaming titles were also reportedly seized by the police, but Gonzales was not able to identify which specific titles they were.

    Contrary to earlier reports by some news outlets, the pieces of software seized from DataBlitz were neither counterfeit nor pirated, but were just sold without proper authorization from the local distributor, according to the CIDG official.

    Gonzales said DataBlitz would be charged with violation of Section 168 of Republic Act 8293, or the law on unfair competition.

    X-Play and DataBlitz could not be immediately reached for comment as of posting time.

    DataBlitz, a 100-store retail chain of gaming software and other entertainment products, is just one of the very few remaining stores in the Philippines where gamers and enthusiasts can order legitimate copies of their favorite computer games.

    Recently, DataBlitz became a venue for local pre-orders of popular gaming titles such as Blizzard's Diablo III and World of Warcraft.
    http://www.interaksyon.com/article/4...tablitz-stores
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    Gray market and not piracy


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Gray market and not piracy
    Ok then pero bakit yun sa mga celphones at ibang gadgets na nasa grey market, or lets say those stores na nasa Quiapo, hindi pinapa-raid ng mga official distributors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Ok then pero bakit yun sa mga celphones at ibang gadgets na nasa grey market, or lets say those stores na nasa Quiapo, hindi pinapa-raid ng mga official distributors?
    AFAIK, hindi pwede ipa-raid yun. kasi first, hindi naman fake yun. best that the exclusive distributor do is not honor warranty. not a valid reason for raid in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    AFAIK, hindi pwede ipa-raid yun. kasi first, hindi naman fake yun. best that the exclusive distributor do is not honor warranty. not a valid reason for raid in my opinion
    Yan ang ginagawa talaga. Sa camera nalang for example, may additional charge for servicing ang mga units na galing sa gray market. Siguro when it comes naman sa case ng Datablitz, eh parang mali ata na ipa-raid mo. I also never heard of that X-Play na exclusive distributor kuno ng 2k13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Yan ang ginagawa talaga. Sa camera nalang for example, may additional charge for servicing ang mga units na galing sa gray market. Siguro when it comes naman sa case ng Datablitz, eh parang mali ata na ipa-raid mo. I also never heard of that X-Play na exclusive distributor kuno ng 2k13.
    sa automotive industry alam ko ganun na din. sa lexus yata if im not mistaken, 500k joining fee babayaran mo to have your grey import serviced at the dealership. hindi parin honored warranty.

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    Bull****. Exclusive distribution is not covered by the piracy law. And should not be. The onus is on the manufacturer to protect its own distribution interests by not selling products at wholesale prices willy-nilly.

    As long as the government receives the proper taxes, no foul.

    Mali yung judge. Should have read the complaint properly first, then consulted an expert on the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Ok then pero bakit yun sa mga celphones at ibang gadgets na nasa grey market, or lets say those stores na nasa Quiapo, hindi pinapa-raid ng mga official distributors?

    A raid will only happen when the legal owner of the brand/product makes a complaint and authorizes (and finances) the raid.

    You read that right, even if you are the legal owner of the brand, you will still have to shell out good money for the NBI or whatever goverment agency to do the raid and confiscation. The money will be used to rent trucks and warehouse space and pay staff involved for their time... believe it or not, some of "part-time" agents.

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    Another news link: News Reports Datablitz Raided for Selling “Pirated” Software | Back2Gaming


    News Reports Datablitz Raided for Selling “Pirated” Software

    Published on November 6, 2012, by Haoson - Posted in News 7
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    In a surprising news update, it was reported that the Robinson’s Ermita branch of Datablitz was raided by the PNP because it was reported to be selling “pirated” software.

    In the GMA news article, it was said that the PNP acted on a complaint by X-Play Online Games Inc. Distributor of NBA 2k13 among other game titles. However, in a different news from bombo radyo other branches of Datablitz were hit as well. Back2Gaming tried to contact Datablitz about the matter and it was indirectly expressed that it was both the Ermita branch and the V-Mall branch that was hit by the PNP raid.

    This bit of news has spread like wildfire within the communities and patrons of the game retailer called it as “absurd” since Datablitz has never been reputed to sell pirated copies of games or software. In fact, Datablitz has been known to be one the “go-to” stores for any legit copy of any game.

    In light of the situation however, one commenter showed the blaring mistake of the article:



    This problem just shows how the anti-piracy law can be misinterpreted and abused by people/companies who want to harass legitimate businesses and individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    A raid will only happen when the legal owner of the brand/product makes a complaint and authorizes (and finances) the raid.

    You read that right, even if you are the legal owner of the brand, you will still have to shell out good money for the NBI or whatever goverment agency to do the raid and confiscation. The money will be used to rent trucks and warehouse space and pay staff involved for their time... believe it or not, some of "part-time" agents.
    Then from here, you can now create some conspiracy theories

    BTT:
    I do think Datablitz will retaliate on this matter. Tsaka who was that X-Play? Never heard of that one until this news came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Then from here, you can now create some conspiracy theories
    No need for consiracy theories. I was privy into the backside happenings of the NBI for a while a few years back.


    BTT:
    I do think Datablitz will retaliate on this matter. Tsaka who was that X-Play? Never heard of that one until this news came out.

    I am sure they will get back at X-Play either by legal or other means.

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    Malas Lang nila nag reklamo yun authorized distributor


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    sa office namin, we also have this problem sa Europe. may parallel imports ng products namin. our distributor registered the trademark na, sent a complaint letter, pero at the end of the day, walang nagawa. kahit EU government. kasi 1st, hindi naman daw fake yung products. 2nd, properly paid yung taxes, 3rd, hindi naman daw illegal yung products.

    pinabayaan na namin. cause as a manufacturer, at the end of the day, product parin naman namin yun.

    usually may parallel imports pag mahina yung distribution or sobrang laki ng patong ng importer.

    im interested on how this case will proceed. learning din ito if ever ma-confiscate yung items.

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