Fast Cars - Not Any Faster in The Real World

**jut703** · January 2nd, 2020 04:20 PM

Was watching The Grand Tour and they pitted a beat-up sedan (Renault 9) vs 3 GT cars (BMW 850i, Bentley Continental, Aston DBS) on a 50-mile race across towns, highways, and backroads.

The 55-hp Renault had a 2 minute headstart which you'd expect the GTs (all above 500 hp) to catch - but the reality is that external factors (traffic, speed limits) and driver capability/road knowledge matter infinitely more than how fast your car can go. Net, the beat-up car got to the destination ahead of the GTs.

Which brings me to my point - all the performance mods that people put on their cars will not make them get to their destinations any faster. A Vios can get to Baguio just as quickly as a Supra can, if you push it hard enough.

The advantage of course of having a faster car is that it feels better to drive. Also, if you mod your car right and have the corresponding skills to maximize them, you could shave a few seconds off your lap times (although really, less than 1% of people who mod their cars ever bring them to a track).

A snippet of the Grand Tour mini-segment here:
The Grand Tour: Real World Race - YouTube

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**GTi** · January 2nd, 2020 04:32 PM

GTs? TG hosts? I'd pay to see a couple of veteran PUV drivers driving a couple of dinky cabs in that episode instead. [emoji1787]

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**Egan101** · January 2nd, 2020 04:34 PM

As EQ would always say, "it is much more fun driving a slow car fast".

**heavenlee** · January 2nd, 2020 10:14 PM

As my dad used to point out, what good is a sports car in (metro manila) traffic?

**oj88** · January 2nd, 2020 11:54 PM

Of course fast cars won't have that much advantage in the real world. People buy them or tweak their cars to go fast for status symbol.... bragging rights.... like owning a real life "Top Trumps" card, a game we used to play in the 80's.

And a tiny percentage just have a passion for the finer things. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Doesn't matter if you take first class or economy on a plane. You'd still be arriving at the same time. However, the overall experience is vastly different.

**jut703** · January 3rd, 2020 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by oj88

Of course fast cars won't have that much advantage in the real world. People buy them or tweak their cars to go fast for status symbol.... bragging rights.... like owning a real life "Top Trumps" card, a game we used to play in the 80's.

And a tiny percentage just have a passion for the finer things. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

Doesn't matter if you take first class or economy on a plane. You'd still be arriving at the same time. However, the overall experience is vastly different.

Yes it's the same with branded shirts vs Uniqlo shirts, or Swiss watches vs Seiko 5s. It's really about the status and a taste for finer things - though I've seen so many people make justifications for their luxury purchases.

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**EQAddict** · January 16th, 2020 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

As EQ would always say, "it is much more fun driving a slow car fast".

Give me a honda jazz 1.5 and id take anyone in a 50km metro manila race.

Though if its the tplex or sctex run........i will bow out. HP and guts (or idiocy) will win you the race there.

Having said that, i still am a sucker for fast cars. High reving, high hp, exquisite sounding, large displacement petrol engines preferred.

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**shadow** · January 3rd, 2020 09:32 AM

Matagal ko na sinasabi na lahat ng pwedeng puntahan ng BMW kaya rin puntahan ng vios.

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**timming_gear** · January 3rd, 2020 09:37 AM

Kaya hindi na big deal yung kupad ng crosswind dahil sa sobrang trapik na. Hindi mo na magamit yung performance na binayaran mo sa mga high end cars [emoji16]

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**Egan101** · January 3rd, 2020 10:27 AM

If you frequent the expressways, you’d appreciate a quicker vehicle. When the traffic is light (like today and yesterday), you can let it rip thru the highway. 30 minutes lang byahe ko kanina from BF to BGC.

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**ninjababez** · January 3rd, 2020 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

If you frequent the expressways, you’d appreciate a quicker vehicle. When the traffic is light (like today and yesterday), you can let it rip thru the highway. 30 minutes lang byahe ko kanina from BF to BGC.

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comparable sa silang cavite trip ko kahapon 45 min, sa c5 lang ako medyo nag slowdown dahil sa bottlenecks

**StockEngine** · January 3rd, 2020 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

If you frequent the expressways, you’d appreciate a quicker vehicle. When the traffic is light (like today and yesterday), you can let it rip thru the highway. 30 minutes lang byahe ko kanina from BF to BGC.

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Effortless 160kph

Then theres effortless 240kph lol...

Such is life.

**Egan101** · January 3rd, 2020 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Effortless 160kph

Then theres effortless 240kph lol...

Such is life.

160-170 kmh puwede sa SLEX between Sucat and Nichols. Hehehe

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**ninjababez** · January 4th, 2020 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

160-170 kmh puwede sa SLEX between Sucat and Nichols. Hehehe

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NB and SB ba wala camera bro? ^_^

**Egan101** · January 4th, 2020 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by ninjababez

NB and SB ba wala camera bro? ^_^

Nahuli na sana ako noon pa. Hehehehe

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**GTi** · January 3rd, 2020 08:13 PM

IMHO, in this country, 100hp is already more than enough for daily city driving and the occasional out of town trip.

Do lots of highway and/or mountain road driving? Around 150hp. Already sufficient to do 100 at 2000rpm or so with more than enough power for the occasional overtake. Speed cameras take away all the fun. [emoji23]

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**BlancNoir** · January 16th, 2020 11:09 AM

I like quick cars, not fast cars.

I like brutal accelerations, yung tipong may slight push you into your seat feels.

I'm sure EQ gets that everytime he floors his mustang. [emoji4]

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**EQAddict** · January 16th, 2020 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by BlancNoir

I like quick cars, not fast cars.

I like brutal accelerations, yung tipong may slight push you into your seat feels.

I'm sure EQ gets that everytime he floors his mustang. [emoji4]

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2nd and 3rd gear are freakin crazy on that 10 speed auto. Addictive. That push back in your seat is really an experience.

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**BlancNoir** · January 16th, 2020 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by EQAddict

2nd and 3rd gear are freakin crazy on that 10 speed auto. Addictive. That push back in your seat is really an experience.

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You are one lucky dude. Hehe

I get that too with my xt on first gear nga lang. 🤣🤭

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**GTi** · June 15th, 2020 09:29 AM

When even Honda has been using the same engines as is for over a decade, it seems that there isn't much more that can be done for the N/A gas engine. What I am interested in now are the standalone Atkinson cycle engines that the Koreans have been popularizing lately. Power levels are approaching standard Otto cycle engines and fuel consumption is something a similarly sized Otto cycle engine can only dream of!

Diesels have truly been improving by leaps and bounds lately. 200hp used to be unthinkable for the PPV segment not too long ago. Now even conservative Toyota is hitting 200hp with the latest Fortuner.

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