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    Ano ba yon? Naririnig ko lang sa radio kahapon nanggagalaiti yung mga komentarista, inambush daw ng MILF yung isang unit ng special forces ng PA this week lang ata. Naubusan daw kasi ng bala kaya lagpas 10 ata patay tapos yung na capture na sundalo in execute ng mga MILF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Ano ba yon? Naririnig ko lang sa radio kahapon nanggagalaiti yung mga komentarista, inambush daw ng MILF yung isang unit ng special forces ng PA this week lang ata. Naubusan daw kasi ng bala kaya lagpas 10 ata patay tapos yung na capture na sundalo in execute ng mga MILF.
    I don't expect the government to retaliate.

    PNoy's too soft on these rebels. Kung si Erap pa yan, these guys would've been bombed by now.

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    They were supposed to serve a warrant of arrest someone who ambushed then beheaded some marines way back in 2007. They didn't inform the MILF of their movements. Whoever sent those soldiers there without the proper intellegence should be liable...

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    The Philippine Armed Forces are not very good.

    Malaysia finished off their Insurgency in 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywesteast View Post
    The Philippine Armed Forces are not very good.

    Malaysia finished off their Insurgency in 3 years.
    Business yang giyera e.

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    malambot tlaga si Pnoy..

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    aba eh kung kay erap nangyari yan....all out war na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    They were supposed to serve a warrant of arrest someone who ambushed then beheaded some marines way back in 2007. They didn't inform the MILF of their movements. Whoever sent those soldiers there without the proper intellegence should be liable...
    The PA Special Forces fought until they ran out of ammo. "To the very end", ika nga.

    Their commanding officers have a lot to answer for, especially since they were sending in lightly armed unit in an area heavily infested with MILF. These officers, up to whoever the battalion commander, should be stripped of their command.

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    For a goverment who's taking peace talk route, they should admit its going nowhere. Tignan lang niyo yung isurgency sa Sri Lanka. They took also the peace talk route but that failed too. They went all out war and tapos na yung insurgency dun. Tayo, 30 years na and counting...

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    Pilipinas pa naman yun lugar na yun diba? Bakit may mga grupo na kala mo kanila yung lugar. Para sakin wala nang dapat pang pagusapan dahil sundalo ng Pilipinas yun at nasa Pilipinas sila, binanatan nila so dapat banatan din to serve as a warning na di pupwede yung ganun.


    Yes I know, easier said than done..pero kawawa naman yung mga sundalo,naubusan ng bala, wala ba silang radio na pag inambush pwede tumawag ng eroplano to bomb enemy positions (gumagana pa naman ata yung mga bronco natin diba). Air support baga.

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    ang babata ng mga opisyal na namatay. fresh grads ng pma.

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    In case of all out war, meron na bang ready info of our forces vs the enemy, parang boksing baga. Number of enemy soldiers vs our standing army, weapons at the disposal of both forces. Leadership experience of commanders of both sides. Estimated expenses for our army for a long guerilla warfare vs source of income din ng kalaban. What will be the long term effect on the local population, the general population of the Philippines in case kailanganin ng more budget to fuel the war effort, siempre ibabawas yan sa ibang sektor. And just in case we win dapat may follow thru ang gobyerno sa area na yun, kung hindi meron at meron ding susunod na ganun din ang takbo ng utak kung ang problema hindi na sosolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    ang babata ng mga opisyal na namatay. fresh grads ng pma.
    PMA? Magaling lang pagdating sa Coup d'etat.

    Sa labanan, BOBO at MAHINA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I don't expect the government to retaliate.

    PNoy's too soft on these rebels. Kung si Erap pa yan, these guys would've been bombed by now.


    yan ang nagustuwan ko kay Erap noon.pinulbos ang Camp Abubakar ng sundalo natin. Taas daw ng mural nung mga sundalo nun.

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    Iniisip ni Pnoy wag gumanti para maipakita nya sa MILF na merong peace without using Arms

    Iniisip ng MILF matatamasa ang peace gamit ng Arms..


    what is wrong with you Pnoy, inuubos na sundalo mo harap harapan gusto mo pa rin makipag usap..


    in going war there is always collateral damage....

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    nakakatawa naman.....
    AFP lang sumusunod sa "ceasefire agreement".
    ang MILF, hindi........

    ayan...bumanat naman sila!

    6 killed in another Basilan ambush | ABS-CBN News | Latest Philippine Headlines, Breaking News, Video, Analysis, Features

    nak ng teteng oh! Noynoy....GISING!

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    Tawa siguro ng tawa ang milf...dami na nilang napatay, may nasibak pa...

    If you were in their shoes nakakagana pa lalo pumatay...

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    Sabi ni fvr mali daw all out war...specific areas lang daw..many civilians will be displaced...

    Tangna as much as id like the govt to go all out, you cant discount the wisdom of a veteran soldier, ex president. And west pointer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Tangna as much as id like the govt to go all out, you cant discount the wisdom of a veteran soldier, ex president. And west pointer.
    Ramos knows the capabilities of the Phil Armed Forces. TRANSLATION: Not very good.

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    President Aquino’s statement on the aftermath of the armed encounter in Basilan, October 24, 2011 | Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines

    Statement
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    His Excellency Benigno S. Aquino III
    President of the Philippines

    On the aftermath of the armed encounter in Basilan on October 18, 2011

    [Delivered in the President's Hall, Malacañan Palace, on October 24, 2011]

    On the 18th of October, the Armed Forces began operations to pursue lawless elements in Al-Barka, Basilan. It resulted in the neutralization of nine criminals; unfortunately, 19 of our own soldiers were also killed.

    Our soldiers were in pursuit of criminal elements with valid warrants of arrest—among them the fugitive Ibrahim Malat Sulayman, a leader of the Abu Sayyaf bandit group and a notorious criminal wanted for nine counts of murder. They are criminals whose actions stand outside of the peace process and what it signifies.

    There have been calls to wage an “all-out war” against the MILF. While it is tempting for government to join the chorus in calling for blood, we believe that such a course of action is not appropriate at this point. We are not interested in knee-jerk reactions that will jeopardize our efforts to address the roots of conflict in the region. Anong klaseng pag-iisip ang nagsasabing awayin ang lahat, sabay-sabay, miski ang nananahimik, sa lahat ng sulok ng Pilipinas, para lang masabing may ginagawa ka?

    We recognize that these calls, or at least some of them, for all-out war may come from those who do not have a full awareness of all the factors at play. However, my decisions cannot be borne out of ignorance. They have to be based on available facts. It is so easy, out of frustration, to close the door on negotiations at this time. If we go down this path, more innocent civilians will be put in harm’s way. The difficult peace process cannot be enhanced by shedding more blood and generating more ill will. We have to exhaust all possibilities for attaining peace through dialogue.

    We will not pursue all-out war; we will instead pursue all-out justice.

    All-out war is indiscriminate and borne out of anger. All-out justice is sober and fair; it is based on the rule of law, and leads to lasting peace.

    In line with this, I have instructed intensified operations against all these criminal elements. The mailed fist of the state will be brought to bear upon them so that justice may be served. There is no question that the state will find them; the only remaining question is when. There will be sacrifices in addressing this decades-old problem. We expect everyone to understand this, and are confident of the cooperation of our citizenry.

    This is not a purely military or police effort. Our local government and community leaders must assist in our efforts to achieve a holistic solution to the problems of the region.

    In conducting their operations, our armed services have always been, and always will be, mindful of the safety of the civilians. Rest assured that the government will do everything it can to maximize the safety of the people and attend to their needs.

    The men who sacrificed their lives in service of our people have the deepest respect of their commander-in-chief, and the utmost gratitude of the State. Siblings of one of the deceased, through their mother, indicated their desire to enlist in the military, in the midst of their loss. As I stood over their remains, I made a personal pledge to do all that I can so that, in the future, such sacrifices will no longer be necessary.

    Let me remind everyone that there are those who will try to use this incident to gain political leverage and further agitate the public. Rash decisions fueled by a thirst for vengeance can only serve to dishonor the memory of the 19 brave souls who died last week, and the many others lost in our efforts to win the peace.

    I urge our people to keep their eye on our long-term goals. May naalala po ba tayong magandang desisyong nagawa habang mainit ang atin pong ulo? Buhay po ang nakasalalay dito.

    Maipapangako po namin sa inyo na sa darating na mga linggo, isa-isang mananagot ang mga kriminal na ito, habang tuloy-tuloy naman ang pag-aaruga natin at pagbibigay serbisyo sa mga mamamayang maaaring maapektuhan ng situwasyong ito.

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