Divorce in the Philippines - are you in favor or not?

[lolo pepe]

hindi pa allowed ito sa Pinas pero for discussion's sake, post away mga papis and mamis...mga mods pakilipat na lang po kung me similar thread...

[artpogi]

yes I'm in favor, but should they legalize divorce here in the Philippines, sana huwag isama ang rights to request for alimony by either of the parties.

[Altis6453]

This is a tricky one. I'll bet a month's salary that most of our legislators in the House of Representatives and the Senate are in favor but the Catholic Church simply exercises too much political clout in blocking even the discussion of a divorce bill. Proof? See what's been blocking the pending bills on family planning and contraception. Also, see how the CBCP practically twisted GMA's arm into abolishing the death penalty.

Dunno about you guys but the way I see it, the Catholic Church in the more developed countries do not have this kind of clout. While those in the 3rd world countries, well....we have the CBCP, the INK, El Shaddai and the JIL who in one way or another dictate national policy on the family and population issues.

[ineedmorehp]

I'm in favor of it too. Why? They are married for 10-20 years already and all of a sudden they will file annulment... anu yun? ngayon mo lang nalaman na etc. etc. na hindi pala pwedE? diba?

[ghosthunter]

I am in favor. Simply ignoring the facts will not erase the problems of marriage failures.

[niky]

I believe that people should have a chance to remarry. Simply because:

I am in favor. Simply ignoring the facts will not erase the problems of marriage failures.

I've seen a lot of women who were dumped unceremoniously by their husbands, living the life of a single mother, with all its hardships... yet, thanks to Philippine law, they can't legally remarry. Separation in the Philippines is a long, drawn-out process... and it's harder than it should be.

Making people jump through hoops of fire won't change the fact that the husband and wife don't live together anymore, and it deprives children of the right to live in a household with a complete set of parents.

While, yes, it would encourage some people to get divorced who would have otherwise stayed together... so what? I'd rather live in a home with less strife than have two parents who hate each other and bicker all the time. I've seen this, too, and it will eventually lead to separation, anyway.

Legalized divorce doesn't encourage adultery... it empowers the partner who is cheated upon. If you divorce because you want to live with your mistress or "mistron", you're obliged to support whatever family you leave behind.

[uls]

Favor.

everyone deserves a 2nd chance. or 3rd. or 4th. or 5th...

if u find out u married the wrong person, u should be able to get out of that marriage.

[1D4LV]

i am a christian, but i am in favor.
even the Bible says something about divorce, which is partially ok, but the condition is that if a couple divorces, the husband or the wife should not marry anymore (1 Cor 7:11)

[GasJunkie]

Legalizing abortion would contribute way more than just letting people off the hook for stupidity.




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edit like the fidiots at the just locked thread. :spider:

[HIFI]

Walang tama, walang mali.

Difficult to give a clear and straight answer. What I can say is that iba't ibang tao may kanikanilang reasons.

Mayroon naman Annulment and Legal seperation. Why do we need divorce?

I agree that everybody deserves a second chance. What's the point, kung talagang breakdown na a marriage.

[niky]

Legal Separation means you're still married and cannot remarry.

Annulment... well, it takes waaaaay too long... and there's no provisions for annulment on the basis of abuse or infidelity... merely legal separation.

[ghosthunter]

Annulment... well, it takes waaaaay too long... and there's no provisions for annulment on the basis of abuse or infidelity... merely legal separation.

Tell me about it. The legal process typically takes nine months to a year and a lot of money as well to process.

[tsupermario]

there's no provisions for annulment on the basis of abuse or infidelity... merely legal separation.

not entirely true

if the consent of either one of the contracting parties to a marriage was not freely given because of abuse then it is a ground for annulment.

infidelity may also be a ground for annulment although indirectly or under certain circumstances. if the wifey was pregnant by another man and she concealed it at the time of the marriage, or if one of one of the parties has std or if one them is gay and in both instances unknown to the other party at the time of the marriage, then they are grounds for annulment.

both can be rooted under psychological incapacity but they should be proved to the satisfaction of the court.

if the abuse or infidelity arose only during the marriage then most likely they are grounds for legal separation.

[niky]

Which is the problem. Abuse tends to happen after the couple has been together for a while, not at the onset... when the couple is in their "honeymoon" period.

And, again, legal separation does not allow the innocent party to find happiness and remarry.

*gh: I feel ya, man... I know some people for whom it's taken years. In some cases, people get disheartened by it and don't even bother, and settle for legal separation.

[HIFI]

Legal Separation means you're still married and cannot remarry.

Annulment... well, it takes waaaaay too long... and there's no provisions for annulment on the basis of abuse or infidelity... merely legal separation.

Obviously, pinapahirapan tayo so that we will think long and hard before getting an annulment.

[tsupermario]

^ ...or getting married :D

[niky]

Uh... what's harder than being deserted by your partner?

I agree that you should make it hard for people who want to divorce for such reasons as "barren-ness" (Gods, if having biological kids instead of foster-kids is so important, you really should get yourselves tested before getting married.) or the fact that their partner snores at night... heck, if it were up to me, I'd make a law stating that you have to live together for at least three years before being granted a license to marry.... simply to ensure that those who are petty enough to want to separate for frivolous reasons will separate before marriage.

But they make it needlessly hard for people who've been abandoned (like I said earlier).

For anyone who's against divorce, you've probably never witnessed a broken or strained marriage firsthand...

I'm not saying that there's no benefit in staying together. I've seem couples pull their relationships out of the doldrums, but like I've said, that requires two cooperative partners. You can't force people to live together if they don't want to, anymore, or if one has no intention of honoring the contract of marriage.

Would I like to see my parents divorced? Obviously not. I'd like nothing more than to see my parents reunited one Christmas or anniversary. But there's obviously no way for that to happen, given the "other" family.

Would I deny them the liberty of a divorce? No.

[cutedoc]

divorce is a total no-no...

my conversation with divorce

why get married in the first place if youll only settle for divorce?
>partners have no idea yet of what is it to be like living together.
Then learn to live with each other, wedding is just the ceremony marriage is a life long commitment, you have your vows for better or for worse, you need to stick to that promise, in front of God and the people.

My partner fall out of love within the span of our marriage.
>why did you let your partner do so, talk or communicate your way through it, there would always be an ample solution for any human made error, its is just a matter of compromise and understanding.

But i dont love my partner anymore i love the other one now.
>so why did you get maaried in the first place, do you know that marriage is like a pact, a solemn pact that are not bound for separation.

But we are really having difficulty.
>If there is truly love, it will surface and that love would reach out empahetically and compassionately without being a martyr, if there arent, then there shouldnt be a wedding that happened.

[Mardim]

well said cute doc.

[mrpink]

i don't believe in divorce.. but i believe that it should be an option for people who don't share in my beliefs.