Our great politicians with regards to gas

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Maybe we can even add their effortless acquisitions of gas guzzlers:

Solons would rather switch to LPG than pay P61/liter


By Norman Bordadora
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Posted date: July 12, 2008


MANILA, Philippines -- With fuel pump prices rising on a weekly basis and hitting an unheard-of P61 a liter in the past week, Filipino politicians are taking a hard look at their beloved sport utility vehicles.
Pampanga Representative Juan Miguel Arroyo, chairman of the House committee on energy, said he plans to have a liqueifed petroleum gas tank installed in the Ford E-150 van that takes his children from their residence in Quezon City and to their school in Makati.

“As part of the government program on alternative fuels, I endorse the use of LPG tanks even in private vehicles,” Arroyo told the INQUIRER.

“I'm thinking about it. I'm going to put one in the E-150. It's an old car and it's a gas guzzler. Anyway, it doesn't have to be fast because it's taking the children to school,” he added.

Arroyo said the car that takes him to his constituency in Pampanga consumes less gasoline than the big van that takes his children to school.

“I drive a Camry. So it doesn't consume as much gas as the van,” he said.

While the chairman of the House energy panel is still thinking about installing an LPG kit in his big Ford, two politicians have already made the switch in their respective Chevys.

Senator Francis Escudero, chair of the Senate committee on ways and means, and former Cavite Representative Gilbert Remulla have already installed LPG tanks in their SUV's and are on their way to installing the same in their other cars.

Aside from saving half or more than half of their thousands of pesos in fuel costs, both politicians said they also expect savings in car maintenance because of LPG being a cleaner fuel than gasoline.

“I had it installed when gas was at P57 per liter just recently, around three weeks ago,” Escudero said of his little more than P70,000 investment in his 1997 Chevrolet Suburban that runs on a 5.2-liter, eight-cylinder engine.

Escudero said that the SUV's consumption of an estimated 4.75 kilometers to the liter is the same with the LPG kit installed.

“But the price of the fuel is 60 percent off,” Escudero said. He said that when he had the cost-saving device installed in his car, the price of gasoline was P57 per liter while LPG was P26 per liter.

“Let's say the car uses up P5,000 worth of gasoline a week, that's P20,000 a month. With LPG at half the price, that's already P10,000 a month in savings,” Escudero said.

Remulla had his LPG kit installed in his 2000 Suburban a few months earlier in April when a liter of gasoline was still P45.

“Instead of paying P61, I pay P35,” Remulla said of his savings now that the price per liter of gasoline has breached the P60-level.

“When the price of gas hit P45 a liter, I said `Teka muna, masakit na `to (Wait, this is hurting already)...I was spending P4,500 a week at P45 per liter. I'd be spending P7,000 a week if I didn't switch to LPG,” the opposition leader from Cavite said.

Escudero said the Suburban that already has the LPG kit is usually used by his wife Christine.

“I will have one installed as well in the one I bring,” Escudero said of his other Suburban.

Remulla said he plans to do the same for his family's Camry sedan, adding that he read materials on LPG kits before “taking the plunge.”

Experience and the research convinced him that LPG in cars is safe for him and his family.

“It's only here that there are health concerns related to LPG. In Bangkok, in Japan, even in Europe, LPG use (in cars) is widespread,” Remulla said.

He said that there was a time when he went to Europe and his host had a car that ran on LPG.

Remulla feels safe bringing his wife and children aged seven, three, and one, on weekend road trips even with the LPG at the back.

“There are no (adverse) effects whatsoever,” Remulla said.

Remulla said that the health concerns that go with LPG in taxicabs may come from the sometimes haphazard manner installers do their job.

He said some installers do the job quickly to have more units put in place and earn more for a day of work. “You really have to choose the conversion kit and the supplier,” Remulla said.

Remulla said the tank also has safety features such as one that shuts off the system when there is a sudden drop in pressure.

“It also has a stress test that when it gets involved in a crash, it will just be crumpled. It won't leak,” Remulla said.

Escudero, who takes his wife and their twin toddlers on the LPG-powered SUV as well, said the LPG installed in fuel injection cars are “closed systems.”

“There's no leak,” Escudero said. He also mentioned the automatic shutoff feature that happens when there is a sudden drop in pressure or an expected leak.

Escudero said he also expects less frequency of change oil.

“Your engine is clean. There is no carbon. Your oil will take a longer time before it turns black,” Escudero said.

Remulla agrees.

“There is no sulfur, no aromatics, no harmful components that dirty the engine,” Remulla said.

While Escudero and Remulla had LPG tanks installed in their cars, Senior Minority Leader Roilo Golez said he bought a smaller van.

Golez brings a Ford E-150 and confesses a fondness for big American vans.

“I usually bring my files with me in my car. My computer as well. So you see, if you look inside my car, parang bahay (like home),” Golez said.

With the fuel crunch, Golez saw it fit to buy a more fuel efficient van.

“I bought a smaller Korean van,” Golez said. He didn't want to endorse a car brand but allowed the mention that it uses a diesel-fed CRDi engine.

A doting grandfather, Golez said, he still bought a van because he enjoys taking his grandchildren on road trips. “That's my joy during weekends,” he said.

Nakakainggit naman ang mga anak ni Sir Mike, E150 pa ang pangsundo. Way to inform the kids on how finite gas is.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Maybe we can even add their effortless acquisitions of gas guzzlers:



Nakakainggit naman ang mga anak ni Sir Mike, E150 pa ang pangsundo. Way to inform the kids on how finite gas is.

Well, if I was a rich kid, I'd find a full-size van very comfy : Full-size swiveling (leather) captain's chairs, plush carpeting, real tv's (not some tiny lcd screen) for gaming or watching dvd's. And with such big engines, the A/C is bound to be heavy-duty and icy cold. I wouldn't be surprised if there was also a small fridge for drinks in there.

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I doubt teaching fuel conservation to kids would make any headway. I try to teach my daughter about saving gas and all I get is a blank stare.

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As long as they use their money and not money of the government that is meant to fund government projects it doesn't matter what they drive to pick up their children. Heck, they can use a 747 to transport their family as long as taxes aren't paying for their fuel.

[Jun aka Pekto]

As long as they use their money and not money of the government that is meant to fund government projects it doesn't matter what they drive to pick up their children. Heck, they can use a 747 to transport their family as long as taxes aren't paying for their fuel.

I suppose the politicians should set the example in their personal lives.

But, how many Pinoys who drive are actually doing the same? The vast majority of those in the Philippines still commute. If everyone was to set an example, then everyone should be commuting, walking, riding a bike, etc.

Here, many of our politicians have SUVs and pickup trucks. But, they actually use them to haul stuff and junk. I've seen them in the hot sun doing yard work and getting dirty rather than having legions of maids and domestic help doing their work for them.

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I don't expect politicians(RP or US) to be an example of anything since most I don't trust. But my comment about them using their money and not tax money, is similar to my viewpoint when I see others driving gas guzzlers. It's their money and how they spend it is their business, so long as they don't tell me how to spend my money.

[Jun aka Pekto]

I don't expect politicians(RP or US) to be an example of anything since most I don't trust. But my comment about them using their money and not tax money, is similar to my viewpoint when I see others driving gas guzzlers. It's their money and how they spend it is their business, so long as they don't tell me how to spend my money.

I knew that part about spending on what they want so long as it's out of their own pockets. Quite frankly, I agree. Their personal life is their personal life. But just like celebrities, many politicians are often put under the microscope. I'm sure some would crave the attention. But most would probably like to keep their private lives private.

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Question is why only now?...they should have realized this earlier...
They should be the ones to set the example to the citizenry.

[Jun aka Pekto]

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Just reading through the posts.... Is there not a capable/honest politician in the Philippines? I mean looking at here and other threads, they're either crooked with no real solid proof or showboating when they display any semblance of good. I'm just wondering because there hasn't been anything positive to hear about them whatsoever.

Maybe it's just Manila that's stagnating. If that's the case, then maybe the political center of gravity should be moved down to say the Visayas. The politicians down there seem to be getting more done, at least according to my wife.

I have to ask because the Philippines will have its national elections in 2010. If there's not one politician worthy of being elected, then what's the point? It does reflect badly upon Pinoys as a whole. The Philippines might as well be as lawless as Somalia.

[Altis6453]

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Just reading through the posts.... Is there not a capable/honest politician in the Philippines? I mean looking at here and other threads, they're either crooked with no real solid proof or showboating when they display any semblance of good. I'm just wondering because there hasn't been anything positive to hear about them whatsoever.

Maybe it's just Manila that's stagnating. If that's the case, then maybe the political center of gravity should be moved down to say the Visayas. The politicians down there seem to be getting more done, at least according to my wife.

I have to ask because the Philippines will have its national elections in 2010. If there's not one politician worthy of being elected, then what's the point? It does reflect badly upon Pinoys as a whole. The Philippines might as well be as lawless as Somalia.

You're right about politicians. There's a dearth of competent and honest ones here. Waitaminit....we can't even put those three words together....politician? comptenent? honest?

Thing is, elective posts here are almost passed down from one political family generation to another. It's almost like a family business that gets handed down.

Still, there's some hope. It's actually refreshing to hear about a priest who got elected as Pampanga governor and a polio-stricken former journalist who won as Isabela governor, both of whom are actually doing well in their posts and justifying their being elected. Hopefully, we get more of those kinds of politicians who come from such backgrounds such as teaching, engineering, etc.

We have enough of lawyers, economists, bankers and former military officials in government already.

[mazdamazda]

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Just reading through the posts.... Is there not a capable/honest politician in the Philippines? I mean looking at here and other threads, they're either crooked with no real solid proof or showboating when they display any semblance of good. I'm just wondering because there hasn't been anything positive to hear about them whatsoever.

Maybe it's just Manila that's stagnating. If that's the case, then maybe the political center of gravity should be moved down to say the Visayas. The politicians down there seem to be getting more done, at least according to my wife.

I have to ask because the Philippines will have its national elections in 2010. If there's not one politician worthy of being elected, then what's the point? It does reflect badly upon Pinoys as a whole. The Philippines might as well be as lawless as Somalia.

There are some politicians that are getting things done.

The problem with the Philippines is that Filipinos tend to overgeneralize things without knowing the details.

Yes - there are some (or even a lot) of rotten eggs in there - but that doesn't mean that everyone is like them. That is just a blatant disregard to those that are really working.

Another thing, politicians are becoming the *scapegoat* for all our country's problems. But go to private companies and you'll see the same *crimes* being committed by individuals on a regular basis.

[Jun aka Pekto]

There are some politicians that are getting things done.

The problem with the Philippines is that Filipinos tend to overgeneralize things without knowing the details.

Yes - there are some (or even a lot) of rotten eggs in there - but that doesn't mean that everyone is like them. That is just a blatant disregard to those that are really working.

I just wish those who are getting things done would stand up and be recognized.

As for those advocating fuel efficiency, they should be commended for at least making an effort to move in the right direction.

I was taught to value every cent, every drop of water (or beer ), every morsel of food, every grain of rice. The efforts of these politicians may not seem much. But, every little bit helps.