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    PH lawmaker proposes to withhold passport of ?non-remitting? OFWs |

    DUBAI–In a bid to address complaints about Overseas Filipino Workers (OFWs) who refuse to support their legal dependents by not sending money to them, a lawmaker filed a proposed measure that would authorize Philippine embassy officials to withhold the renewal of an OFW passport found to be doing such.
    Filed by OFW Family Partylist Representative Roy Seneres, House Bill 3576 was proposed in reference to several provisions in the Constitution and the Family code of the Philippines due to prevalence of non-remittance of earnings among land-based OFWs.
    Land-based OFWs, who, unlike Filipino seamen employed abroad, are not bound by law or rules requiring them to remit part of their income to their families in the Philippines.
    If passed into law, Filipinos working abroad are obliged to continue to observe and respect the Philippine laws, customs, traditions and practices.
    “It shall be the obligation and duty of every OFW to continue to observe and respect the laws, customs, traditions and practices of the Philippines wherever they may be,” it said.
    Section 2 of the bill also stated that: “It shall also be the obligation and duty of every OFW to provide material or financial and moral support to one’s family or dependent in the Philippines during the period of overseas employment.”
    “Overseas Filipino Workers (OFWs), whether sea-based or land-based are required to remit regularly a portion of their foreign exchange earnings to their family or legal dependent recipient in the Philippines through the Philippine banking system or any authorized credit unions, money transfer operators or through the postal mail,” Section 1 of the bill stated.
    In effect, proof of remittance–particularly confirmed bank (foreign) remittance receipt; Receipt of International Postal Money Order; or Sworn Statement from the dependent that said support has already been satisfied and/or settled–will be included among the requirements in passport renewals of OFWs.
    It said Ambassadors, Consul Generals, Chiefs of Mission or Charge d’ Affairs are authorized to withhold the renewal or approval of the passport of an erring Filipino worker.
    parang sablay itong bill, or maybe because im not an OFW kaya di ko maintindihan. ano ba kaibahan ng passport ng OFW vs pinoy tourist? Eh kung wag mo sabahing OFW ka? Saka anong pake mo tongressman kung san dalhin/gamitin ng OFW ang pinaghirapan nya?

    at any rate, source of corruption na naman ito.
    Last edited by BratPAQ; March 5th, 2014 at 03:48 AM.

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    wala ng maisip mga lawmakers natin, basta lang masabi na may nai-file na bill

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    Our legislature is filled with Nincompoops with this Roy Seneres being an exemption. However he has crossed his line is his bill as stated “Overseas Filipino Workers (OFWs), whether sea-based or land-based are required to remit regularly..." as he cannot force anyone on what to do with his legally earned income, that is invasion of privacy. Now if his problem is on family matters, then those affected family here should file a case and only then DFA can implement what he intends to.

    He cannot generalize the entire OFW and force then to remit. Besides, he needs to differentiate an OFW from an Expatriate.

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    What if the OFW has no dependents? Withheld din ang passport because of non remittance? Stupid proposal.

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    nlol 'yang mambabatas na 'yan!!!

    sabi nga ni sir macsd: He cannot generalize the entire OFW and force then to remit.
    gumawa sila ng batas na hulihin ang mga naglu- lukong ofw's kaya hindi regular na makapag- padala
    sa kanilang mga pamilya! huwag nilang idamay 'yung mga taong "parehas" maghanapbuhay.

    karamihan sa mga tauhan/kasamahan ko sa middle east ay hindi makapag- padala ng regular sa
    kani- kanilang mga pamilya. bakit???
    - dahil destino sila sa mga remote areas na walang mga bangko o remmittance centers.
    merong mga service vehicles, paano naman kung maubusan ka. mahal rin ang bayad sa taxi,
    hahanap ka pa ng makaka- share sa bayaran. sayang naman kung solo ka lang.
    gustuhin man nilang magpadala, hindi na rin sila makaka- abot sa banking hours.

    - dahil 7 days/week ang trabaho and up to 6hrs ang ot (150 - 200% / hr of regular rate) per day,
    sayang pa ang kikitain nila sa ot. malaking bagay 'yon para sa mga skilled workers lang na
    kumpara sa 'pinas eh minimum rate lang ang kita.

    lahat naman ng mga "irregular remmittances" na 'yan eh napagkasunduan na rin ng pami- pamilya nila.
    malaking kalokohan talaga 'yan! naka- isip lang sila ng pagkaka- kuwartahan!!! :mad:

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    remit kayo ng piso. that would still be remittance.

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    Neophyte senator pushes bill reducing income tax rate | Inquirer Business

    It's about time something opposite and beneficial to juan dela cruz comes up into a senator's mind. After patong-patong na mga taxes from VAT to Sin taxes etc...naka isip din ng makabuluhan panukala. Sana naman huwag lang matulog ang bill na ito sa kangkungan.

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    so let me guess this straight: after decades of mishandling the governance of this country, resulting in poor education and unemployment, forcing hundreds of thousands of Pinoys to look for jobs overseas, quite a number of which go through tremendous abuse, from which he gets no support from our "embassies", now he *has* to remit his earnings?

    Kapal ng mukha.

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    Ugok na congressman na 'to. Lalong paparamihin ang mga tamad.

    Hindi ako mag OFW para pakainin ang mga tamad na kamag-anak.

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    Dapat ang pagtuunan nila ng pansin eh ung corruption, red tape atbp. Gawing efficient ang tax collection. Electronics thru banking ang pagbayad ng tax para more efficient.


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    Pag napasa yung bill, yung mga walang kamaganak sa pinas na pa padalhan ng remittances, eh sa kin nyo na lang po padala para makakuha kayo ng passport, hahaha.

    But seriously, passport is a basic right of every Filipino. So I don't think papasa to sa supreme court.

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    Hanaknangpootah tong mga tongressman at senatong na mga ito.

    Susunod niyan may magpopropose na na dapat 3 time a day ang *** para happy ang family.

    Packers kayong mga kura-tong!!!

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    What a waste! Non-understanding of being an OFW!
    Last edited by awing; March 5th, 2014 at 05:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    PH lawmaker proposes to withhold passport of ?non-remitting? OFWs |



    parang sablay itong bill, or maybe because im not an OFW kaya di ko maintindihan. ano ba kaibahan ng passport ng OFW vs pinoy tourist? Eh kung wag mo sabahing OFW ka? Saka anong pake mo tongressman kung san dalhin/gamitin ng OFW ang pinaghirapan nya?

    at any rate, source of corruption na naman ito.


    This is illegal and even tantamount to blackmail.

    The proposed bill simply reflects the kind of IQ of the person who wrote it.

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    Adobo then BIR Add attacking Doctors, and now OFW blackmail na.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Adobo then BIR Add attacking Doctors, and now OFW blackmail na.
    add the "fall in line" bill.......:gron:

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    Wait a minute lang po mga sirs!

    Parang di nyo naintindihan yung proposal. Sabi ay i-hold ang renewal ng passport ng ofw na HINDI NAGBIBIGAY NG SUPPORTA SA MGA DEPENDENTS SA PILIPINAS.

    So sa madaling salita ang apektado nito e yung mga nag-abandon ng mga pamilya nila sa pilipinas. Parang kung baga sa america e yung mga tinatawag na "dead beat dads", yung hindi nagbibigay ng support sa kanilang mga anak at asawa (i.e., child support and alimony). Madami kasing mga ofw na naki-apid na sa ibang babae/lalake sa abroad at tinigil na nila yung pagbibigay ng supporta sa kanilang mga legal na pamilya dito sa pilipinas. Yun ang target ng bill na ito, para makahabol ng supportang pinansyal ang mga inabandonang mga pamilya na naiwan sa pilipinas dun sa kanilang mga tatay/nanay na kinalimutan na yung kanilang mga anak.

    Pero may mali din ang bill (ayon sa pagkakasulat sa nabasa kong ni-quote ni BratPAQ). Ang mali ay:
    1. Hindi dapat lahat ng ofw ay ire-require ng proof of remittance. Ito ay mali. Dapat ay magreklamo muna ang asawa o anak na inabandona, hindi dapat lahatin.
    2. Kung legally separated na sa asawa ay mga anak na menor de edad na lang ang pwedeng magreklamo at humingi ng suporta.


    Yung tunkol naman sa passport ng ofw at tourist, iba po ang passport ng ofw. Iba ang series ng letters ng passport number. Kaya po pag nag apply ng passport e tinatanong kung ano ang purpose ng pagkuha ng passport. Pag presenta mo ng passport sa imigration at ofw passport ang hawak mo e hahanapan ka ng work visa at oec galing sa poea.

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    In the news earlier, meron bagong ipa implement ang Immigration to stop daw human trafficking. Aside from the usual passports & departure forms, they will require proof of support and iba pang ka-ek-ekan. Por dios por santo Immigration people, why will Juan dela Cruz suffer with all these new policy when human trafficking will never proliferate without Immigration people involvement.

    Is it not that every victim of human trafficking would always say that they are being escorted at the airport to get pass immigration. Who are these escorts? Is it not airport & immigration people in cahoots. Hay naku, no wonder this country cannot move forward as it's people in goverment are run by jokers at the expense of people's money.

    This is a solution that won't address the problem but only give's more room for kotong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Wait a minute lang po mga sirs!

    So sa madaling salita ang apektado nito e yung mga nag-abandon ng mga pamilya nila sa pilipinas. Parang kung baga sa america e yung mga tinatawag na "dead beat dads", yung hindi nagbibigay ng support sa kanilang mga anak at asawa (i.e., child support and alimony).
    Sala pa rin ang tong-its, sir. Di na kelangan ng bill yan, pwede na magdemanda agad yung family kung di sila pinapadalhan.

    Kung babaligtarin natin, ang OFW ay yung madre de familia, tapos yung dependent na mister nambabae lang sa Pinas? Maraming kasong ganyan. Di si mister pa ang may mukhang magreklamo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Wait a minute lang po mga sirs!

    Parang di nyo naintindihan yung proposal. Sabi ay i-hold ang renewal ng passport ng ofw na HINDI NAGBIBIGAY NG SUPPORTA SA MGA DEPENDENTS SA PILIPINAS.

    So sa madaling salita ang apektado nito e yung mga nag-abandon ng mga pamilya nila sa pilipinas. Parang kung baga sa america e yung mga tinatawag na "dead beat dads", yung hindi nagbibigay ng support sa kanilang mga anak at asawa (i.e., child support and alimony). Madami kasing mga ofw na naki-apid na sa ibang babae/lalake sa abroad at tinigil na nila yung pagbibigay ng supporta sa kanilang mga legal na pamilya dito sa pilipinas. Yun ang target ng bill na ito, para makahabol ng supportang pinansyal ang mga inabandonang mga pamilya na naiwan sa pilipinas dun sa kanilang mga tatay/nanay na kinalimutan na yung kanilang mga anak.

    Pero may mali din ang bill (ayon sa pagkakasulat sa nabasa kong ni-quote ni BratPAQ). Ang mali ay:
    1. Hindi dapat lahat ng ofw ay ire-require ng proof of remittance. Ito ay mali. Dapat ay magreklamo muna ang asawa o anak na inabandona, hindi dapat lahatin.
    2. Kung legally separated na sa asawa ay mga anak na menor de edad na lang ang pwedeng magreklamo at humingi ng suporta.


    Yung tunkol naman sa passport ng ofw at tourist, iba po ang passport ng ofw. Iba ang series ng letters ng passport number. Kaya po pag nag apply ng passport e tinatanong kung ano ang purpose ng pagkuha ng passport. Pag presenta mo ng passport sa imigration at ofw passport ang hawak mo e hahanapan ka ng work visa at oec galing sa poea.
    I don't know about the passports of OFWs but previously, I would have my passport renewed at a Philippine Embassy overseas and I think the letters in front are a bit different. My last passport number was also shorter. It was my first time to renew here in Manila last year and my passport number is now similar to everyone else's.

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