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  1. erict
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    December 2nd, 2005 04:42 PM #1
    "The court sentenced Garcia, the military's former comptroller, to dishonorable dismissal, forfeiture of benefits, and hard labor for two years."

    source: http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index....story_id=58535

    kung babasahin nyo yung news parang ang babaw naman ng parusa para kay Garcia... para sa akin dapat 20 years na pagkakakulong!!! grabe eh meron na syan P300Million na nakurakot tapos ganun lang ang parusa?
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    December 2nd, 2005 04:56 PM #2
    i'm sure mabigat yung penalty .. pero alam mo naman media natin .. dahil guilty .. hindi na as news worthy .. ngayon kung not guilty yung verdict .. i'm sure mas sensationalized ..
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    December 2nd, 2005 04:59 PM #3
    holy crap, crime does pay!
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    December 2nd, 2005 05:19 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk
    holy crap, crime does pay!
    pag ganito... iniisip ko na lang na hindi nila kayang dalhin yun sa hukay.
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    December 2nd, 2005 05:02 PM #5
    wala bang criminal case na naka-file sa courts other than military? kasi plunder yun di ba, dapat minimum life imprisonment to death ang penalty.
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    December 2nd, 2005 05:11 PM #6
    yep .. meron din sa Sandigan bayan ...

    Report: Military court finds former AFP comtroller guilty
    12/02 3:13:47 PM

    A military court Friday has found retired Major General Carlos Garcia, the former finance officer of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), guilty of graft and corruption, according to media reports.

    Garcia had been found guilty after the prosecution panel argued that they have proven beyond reasonable doubt that Garcia violated Article of War 96 or Conduct Unbecoming of An Officer and a Gentleman and Article of War 97 or Conduct Prejudicial to Good Order and Military Discipline.

    The charges stemmed from Garcia's misrepresentation of his statements of assets and liabilities for 2002 and 2003 and for the possession of a United States "green card" while serving as a general of the military.

    Though Garcia had been retired from the service, he now faces imprisonment and forfeiture of his benefits as a former military officer.

    Garcia is also facing a 303-million pesos plunder charge and four counts of perjury before the Sandiganbayan.
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    December 2nd, 2005 05:16 PM #7
    yup meron nga, kita ko sa abs-cbn...

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topoftheh...?StoryId=23720
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    December 2nd, 2005 05:30 PM #8
    The verdict is meaningless. 2 years hard labor? How many will believe that he'll actually be made to do that? I think the court martial proceedings were done for show. There were too many generals to protect and Garcia has the dirt on all of them being the former comptroller of the AFP. Hawak nya pera.

    The dishonorable discharge IMHO is moot and academic considering that he has attained retirable age from the AFP. Forfeiture of benefits? Hello? Mas malaki pa pera na nakuha nya kesa sa lump sum ng retirement benefits niya!
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    December 2nd, 2005 05:40 PM #9
    all for show...
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    December 2nd, 2005 05:41 PM #10
    at least may precedent na ... so mas malakas na yung case sa sandiganbayan ... parang weird naman na guilty siya sa military .. tapos biglang not guilty sa sandiganbayan .. at naka-freeze naman yung assets niya .. kaya kahit milyones pa yan .. di naman niya magalaw .. although i'm sure may mga nakatagong pera pa yan ...
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    December 2nd, 2005 06:52 PM #11
    Quote Originally Posted by mrpink
    at least may precedent na ... so mas malakas na yung case sa sandiganbayan ... parang weird naman na guilty siya sa military .. tapos biglang not guilty sa sandiganbayan .. at naka-freeze naman yung assets niya .. kaya kahit milyones pa yan .. di naman niya magalaw .. although i'm sure may mga nakatagong pera pa yan ...

    Well, consider these things:

    1. The results of the court martial, while persuasive, is not conclusive on the civil courts. Remember, it involves violation of the code of conduct of military personnel and not the violation of law. Garcia can still be found innocent in the civil courts.

    2. You're right. A lot of his assets have been frozen. But, keep in mind, he's probably been smuggling money out of the country for years. Meaning, that's just the tip of the iceberg. I have very strong suspicions that he has money stashes everywhere and abroad. Tanga lang ang asawa nya at nagpahuli.
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    December 2nd, 2005 07:12 PM #12
    only assets under his name are frozen. do you think he will put the money under his name?
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    December 2nd, 2005 07:14 PM #13
    this is gonna piss off a few lower ranking officers and soldiers....naku, kudeta na naman!
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    December 2nd, 2005 07:34 PM #14
    After hard labor for 2 years, butot balat na siguro sya.
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    December 2nd, 2005 08:03 PM #15
    how do they classify hard labor kaya?
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    December 2nd, 2005 08:14 PM #16
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    how do they classify hard labor kaya?
    that's a Big Q??? baka mag punas ng lamesa ehh hard labor na sa kanila.. Mas mahirap pa ang work ng metro Aide sa kanila
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    December 3rd, 2005 06:44 PM #17
    Quote Originally Posted by NightRock
    that's a Big Q??? baka mag punas ng lamesa ehh hard labor na sa kanila.. Mas mahirap pa ang work ng metro Aide sa kanila

    At saan siya ikukulong? Sa Munti?


    May sakit din itong kumag na ito eh. Pag nagkataon, sa Veterans din ilalagay ito, tulad ni Erap noon. Lahat ng dahilan, gagawin nito.
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    December 3rd, 2005 12:27 AM #18
    Sanabits! kung magnakaw ka 200 millions 2 years lang? kung nakaw mo carabao abot 5 yrs. nyeta! kawatan na lang tayo!
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    December 3rd, 2005 12:37 AM #19
    ok ah...2 years? patawa?...pero ok na kesa wala...

    eto lang...pag nanalo pa si Garcia sa Sandigan eh hmmmmmmmmmm...

    hirap na lang magsalita.
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    December 3rd, 2005 03:33 AM #20
    hard labor kasama yun July 21 Mutineers hehehe
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