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    Kanya-kanya na silang batuhan ng paratang. Kanya-kanyang siraan ng credibility. This might be true, pero sige lang.......let's see kung sino'ng mas papanigan ng tao.



    By Joel Guinto
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    First Posted 18:04:00 02/21/2008



    Former Aide: Lozada Favored Kin in Gov’t Contracts

    MANILA, Philippines -- A former aide to Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. in a tearful plea on national television Thursday said the broadband deal whistleblower should be made to answer for alleged irregularities when he was head of state-owned Philippine Forests Corp.

    "Katotohanan lang ang sinasabi ko… Maging handa siya sa mga consequences [I'm just telling the truth… He should be ready to face the consequences," PhilForest President Erwin Santos said of his former boss.

    Santos broke into tears when he made the appeal before state-run NBN television. “Boses" anchor Mario Garcia, at one point, tried to calm him down, by tapping him on the shoulder then saying, "You are a hero."

    In an off air conversation, Garcia said that according to Santos, Lozada favored his relatives when bidding out PhilForest contracts.

    "I did not expect that it would come to this. This is the truth. Let's look at all the angles," Santos said.

    "This is for the country," he said, adding that he was taught by Franciscans as a child not to lie.

    Lozada, former president of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources’ Philforest, has testified before a Senate inquiry that former elections chief Benjamin Abalos Sr. and First Gentleman Jose Miguel Arroyo tried to get kickbacks from the telecoms deal with Chinese firm ZTE Corp.

    But environment Secretary Joselito Atienza on Friday urged the people to be more discerning and not to immediately hail Lozada as a "hero," saying that while "he preaches good governance he was not doing it in his own agency.”

    “He preaches fighting corruption but obviously PhilForest under him had a lot of shenanigans going on," Atienza said.

    He said Lozada apparently "mishandled" the distribution of land to be forested by giving several hectares to his family.

    "My undersecretary for forestry, Manuel Gerochi (undersecretary for bureaus and attached agencies), told me he was supposed to be given access to about three million hectares and the DENR stopped it at 300,000. Rather than entrust him with that, DENR handled it. At that time I couldn't understand what it connoted," he said.

    The huge tracts of land were supposed to be for jatropha plantations, but he claimed Lozada gave 50 hectares "to a company ostensibly belonging to him, and five hectares each to his family members."

    These allegations, he added, have already been raised by Senator Miriam Santiago during the Senate investigation and were backed by documents
    Last edited by chua_riwap; February 21st, 2008 at 08:35 PM.

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    Sana naman iniba nila yung style, yung pag iyak ni Lozada dahil ata sa matinding pagsasamahan nila ni Neri at dahil sa threat sa kanyang pamilya at buhay niya.. Etong bago naiyak dahil sa pabor ni Lozada sa pamilya niya sa mga kontrata?? Anong nakaka iyak dun? Kinidnap ba siya ng mga tauhan ni Lozada??

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    lumalapot ang telenovela ...iyakan na

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    Kaya ako naniniwala sa Bible saying na "Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Stone"

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    they are all going to hell...

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    I knew Erwin for a short period way back in college, when he was our candidate for the vice-chairmanship of the University Student Council. I had the impression that he was a level-headed, intelligent and rational guy, cool pa rin ang ulo kahit tinitira na ng kalabang partido.

    Kelan ko lang siya uli nakita sa TV, tumatanda na ang itsura. Now it seems he's already well-versed in speaking like a bureaucrat. He could have made his point without mimicking Lozada's teary-eyed statements.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; February 21st, 2008 at 10:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuzoom View Post
    they are all going to hell...
    dear folks,

    its simply Thieves vs Thieves !

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Kanya-kanya na silang batuhan ng paratang. Kanya-kanyang siraan ng credibility. This might be true, pero sige lang.......let's see kung sino'ng mas papanigan ng tao.



    By Joel Guinto
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    First Posted 18:04:00 02/21/2008
    alang 'ya...totoo ba yan o tinatakot mo lang si jlo?

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    nice... meron din pa iyak iyak epek....

    wala namang bago sa isiniwalat ni erwin santos, di ba doon sa pag uusisa ni sen santiago e inamin na ni jlo na meron din syang mga katiwaliang ginawa...

    ang galing talaga ng style ng mga nasa gobyerno.. yung sumisira sa yo siraan mo rin...at dapat mas mababa ang katungkulan ng sisira, dahil para hahanap din ang opposisyon ng kasiraan sa sumisira sa sumisira sa yo...

    in the end, madidivert ang atensyon ng mga tao sa tunay na isyu....

    pag nadivert na ang atensyon ng mga tao,, tuloy ang nakawan.. este ligaya...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    I knew Erwin for a short period way back in college, when he was our candidate for the vice-chairmanship of the University Student Council. I had the impression that he was a level-headed, intelligent and rational guy, cool pa rin ang ulo kahit tinitira na ng kalabang partido.

    Kelan ko lang siya uli nakita sa TV, tumatanda na ang itsura. Now it seems he's already well-versed in speaking like a bureaucrat. He could have made his point without mimicking Lozada's teary-eyed statements.
    or bec that is what the instructions to him, to shed tears or maybe he was in so much pressure from the people in power....

    Quote Originally Posted by jedi View Post
    mas malalala pa nga si chavit eh... nung tumestigo sya laban kay erap
    correct, if they can give the chavit :devil: immunity from all the charges then pwede rin si lozada...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    or bec that is what the instructions to him, to shed tears or maybe he was in so much pressure from the people in power....



    correct, if they can give the chavit :devil: immunity from all the charges then pwede rin si lozada...
    but chavit was a witness in am impeachment case. lozada only in a senate hearing. and afaik, walang inaming wrongdoing si chavit. or kung meron man, walang nagkaso sa kanya. si lozada umamin under oath so ndi pwede itanggi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    but chavit was a witness in am impeachment case. lozada only in a senate hearing. and afaik, walang inaming wrongdoing si chavit. or kung meron man, walang nagkaso sa kanya. si lozada umamin under oath so ndi pwede itanggi.
    Inamin din ni Chavit yung mga kasalanan niya before the media. He confessed that he was the bagman for the jueteng money. Obvious yun during his testimony sa Senado (and at the Sandiganbayan). In fact, he even stated na willing siyang magpakulong, kahit sabay sila ni Erap. But the thing is, hindi na siya kinasuhan ng administrasyon ni Darth Pandak as a debt of gratitude. Bulag lang naman ang hindi nakakakita nun.

    AFAIK, the Senate cannot provide immunity from suit, only the courts can approve that. It's the DOJ which prepares the immunity agreement, and it has to be approved by the appropriate court.

    Iba ang impeachment case sa criminal.
    Last edited by Galactus; February 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 AM.

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    Kanya kanyang siraan na lang ng imahe!

    Naguguluhan lalo ang publiko kung sino nagsasabi ng totoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrocks View Post
    alang 'ya...totoo ba yan o tinatakot mo lang si jlo?
    Si Lozada tatakutin ko? Ano ka?..... Hilo? Ha-ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Si Lozada tatakutin ko? Ano ka?..... Hilo? Ha-ha!
    hehehe

    may abugado mga kawatan dito bro

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    Halatang inililihis nila yun issue...the issue here is was there indeed corruption and does it lead all the way to Malacanang?....Lozada admitted that he had made mistakes but decided to come out with the truth about this fiasco...So Erwin's revelation is just a ploy to divert public outrage from the ZTE to this news article...Lozada stated that he wanted to save his soul and that is what made him decide to do the right thing....This administration is claiming all the credit for the highest growth rate in 30 years but dama ba ng lahat ito?....piling pili lamang ang nakadama nito just what Neri told in the meeting last Dec. 7....so Malacanang should hear this unrest and let itself be investigated or GMA will not survive the final 2 plus years in office

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    Dito ke Erwin mas valid yung mga tinatanong ke J.Lo:

    1) Bakit ngayon ka lang nagsalita?
    2) Anong ini-iyak iyak mo?

    Hindi naman kasi sya nakidnap at napadalhan ng maraming death treats, at itong pagsasalita nya eh ano ano na napakinabangan nya. Totally diffrent ang sitwasyon nila ni J.Lo.

    Sir Erwin, umamin ka na, sino nag uutos sa yo, si Sec. Lito ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ans_lim168 View Post
    Halatang inililihis nila yun issue...the issue here is was there indeed corruption and does it lead all the way to Malacanang?....Lozada admitted that he had made mistakes but decided to come out with the truth about this fiasco...So Erwin's revelation is just a ploy to divert public outrage from the ZTE to this news article...Lozada stated that he wanted to save his soul and that is what made him decide to do the right thing....This administration is claiming all the credit for the highest growth rate in 30 years but dama ba ng lahat ito?....piling pili lamang ang nakadama nito just what Neri told in the meeting last Dec. 7....so Malacanang should hear this unrest and let itself be investigated or GMA will not survive the final 2 plus years in office
    well, kung talagang totohanan ni lozada to save his soul (ika nga) isauli nya lahat ng kinurakot nya. Yong mga lupain na pinamigay nya sa kanyang mga kamag anak. Yong sinasabi ni Erwin, totoo yon. Inamin naman ni Lozada ah. Di ba ilang contrata ba ang binigay nya sa kanyang kapatid. Akala kasi nya sarili nyang kompanya ang Phil Forest. Asus, pati asawa nakikinabang

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Si Lozada tatakutin ko? Ano ka?..... Hilo? Ha-ha!
    OT, ibinalik ko lang sa yo, yung sinabi mo sa akin na "alang ya,ano advise ba
    yan o tinatakot mo si syur" remember?...kaya sasabihin ko rin ulit na...
    Si Syur tatakutin ko? Ano ka?.....Hilo? Ha ha

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    Walang originality, halatang ginagaya yung style ni Lozada

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