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    This is stupid.

    Been hearing Kabayad and a certain Atty. Olalia of the NUPL loudly complaining that the government did not do enough to save Mary Jane Veloso who is now facing execution in Indonesia. Actually, the case has been ringing in my ears the whole week.

    Wow. The woman was tried and sentenced by a court of law in Indonesia for trafficking drugs and now it's supposed to be the government's priority to save her?

    Itong si Atty. Olalia na blacklist sa Indonesian immigration for being undesirable...syempre sinisi nya ang DFA natin. Tapos tong si Migrante akala mo naman walang kasalanan ang nakaharap ngayon sa bitay. Sila nalang kaya ang pumalit kay Veloso sa firing squad?

    Wala talagang pag-asa Pilipinas!

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    if MJ had been murdered by fellow drugs dealers, I bet most of us would've been secretly thinking "Good riddance".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    This is stupid.

    Been hearing Kabayad and a certain Atty. Olalia of the NUPL loudly complaining that the government did not do enough to save Mary Jane Veloso who is now facing execution in Indonesia. Actually, the case has been ringing in my ears the whole week.

    Wow. The woman was tried and sentenced by a court of law in Indonesia for trafficking drugs and now it's supposed to be the government's priority to save her?

    Itong si Atty. Olalia na blacklist sa Indonesian immigration for being undesirable...syempre sinisi nya ang DFA natin. Tapos tong si Migrante akala mo naman walang kasalanan ang nakaharap ngayon sa bitay. Sila nalang kaya ang pumalit kay Veloso sa firing squad?

    Wala talagang pag-asa Pilipinas!
    Did the government helped MJ during litigation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    This is stupid.

    Been hearing Kabayad and a certain Atty. Olalia of the NUPL loudly complaining that the government did not do enough to save Mary Jane Veloso who is now facing execution in Indonesia. Actually, the case has been ringing in my ears the whole week.

    Wow. The woman was tried and sentenced by a court of law in Indonesia for trafficking drugs and now it's supposed to be the government's priority to save her?

    Itong si Atty. Olalia na blacklist sa Indonesian immigration for being undesirable...syempre sinisi nya ang DFA natin. Tapos tong si Migrante akala mo naman walang kasalanan ang nakaharap ngayon sa bitay. Sila nalang kaya ang pumalit kay Veloso sa firing squad?

    Wala talagang pag-asa Pilipinas!
    Did the government helped MJ during litigation?
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    Lost count how many PH drug mules have been executed, ... It's just the current flavor of the month since the Mamasapano Incident is no longer of public interest. BS Aquino shouldn't loose any sleep over it. People would have all but forgotten about it by next week...

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    It's Indonesia's law. The crime happened in their country and they enforce their laws. They respect the law of their land, and expect us to do the same. Malas lang talaga si MJ (if innocent nga) at dun pa siya nahuli.

    Ganun dapat ipatupad ang batas: you break the law, you pay the consequence.

    Hindi katulad dito sa atin: you break the law, you "PAY" the consequence.

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    It's Indonesia's law. The crime happened in their country and they enforce their laws. They respect the law of their land, and expect us to do the same. Malas lang talaga si MJ (if innocent nga) at dun pa siya nahuli.

    Ganun dapat ipatupad ang batas: you break the law, you pay the consequence.

    Hindi katulad dito sa atin: you break the law, you "PAY" the consequence.

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    It's quite hard not to sympathize with the patsies that drug lords use, but sabi nga ng uncle ko: had those drugs been sold and used in Indonesia, countless other lives would have been ruined. Yes Filipino lives matter, but who are we to say that it is worth more than those Indonesian lives?

    Heard that Pacquiao has become the de-facto chairman in the Senate to look into MJ's case. Good luck.
    Last edited by badkuk; April 28th, 2015 at 05:35 PM.

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    Buwa ng inang mga drug mules na yan. Ayaw pa umamin na nasilaw sa bayad na $$$ para magdala ng drugs. Bwiset!

    At mas bwiset yang *******ng migrante na yan! Wala na ibang alam gawin kundi mag-rally. E kung yung pera na ginagamit sa rally e ginamit nula sa abugado ni MJ e di wala sana sila sinisisi ngayon.

    Bitayin na yan! Milliones ang ofw na marunong sumunod sa batas di dapat pinag-aaksayahan ng pera at panahon yang drug mule!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    This is stupid.

    Actually, the case has been ringing in my ears the whole week.

    Wala talagang pag-asa Pilipinas!

    Hahahaha....pareho tayo, nabibingi na ako sa news na ito. Dumadami lang ang sumasawsaw for publicity sake. Grabe si Paksiw, 2 months na every minute na lang nasa news. Masakit na mata at tenga ko. Parang giginhawa ang buhay sa pinas kung bigyan ng importansya. Bwiset

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    #9
    sa atin, drug mules are children below 15 y.o. absolutely no criminal liability. thanks to former Sen. kiko Pangilinan.

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    Now that she was spared I wonder who will grab credit for it...? Certainly not Nognog since he didn't make a final plea...

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    Putek! hahaba na naman ang storya nito for another week. Tapos mawawala then after a few years, bibitayin na uli.

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    yeah yan nga naisip ko sir. They say they delayed the execution and wait for the outcome of the case against the recruiter -- i doubt if they're that patient. Once nobody's looking, bibitayin yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    yeah yan nga naisip ko sir. They say they delayed the execution and wait for the outcome of the case against the recruiter -- i doubt if they're that patient. Once nobody's looking, bibitayin yan.
    Rather telling that it takes an international spotlight and public outrage for the government to FINALLY go after the recruiter, eh?

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    Same stupid **** as in the case of the Cebu vandals... kung walang direct complainant or public scandal... even if you have evidence of guilt, the government won't lift a finger to apprehend the guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    yeah yan nga naisip ko sir. They say they delayed the execution and wait for the outcome of the case against the recruiter -- i doubt if they're that patient. Once nobody's looking, bibitayin yan.
    Rather telling that it takes an international spotlight and public outrage for the government to FINALLY go after the recruiter, eh?

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    Same stupid **** as in the case of the Cebu vandals... kung walang direct complainant or public scandal... even if you have evidence of guilt, the government won't lift a finger to apprehend the guilty.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    sa atin, drug mules are children below 15 y.o. absolutely no criminal liability. thanks to former Sen. kiko Pangilinan.
    how true. the pangilinan law has created a lot of 'KIKO MONSTERS". there are many instances where minors (kuno) kill and are not prosecuted because of kiko. syempre, minos kill under the influence of drugs and are roaming around, pati police, takot silang hulihin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyramid00 View Post
    how true. the pangilinan law has created a lot of 'KIKO MONSTERS". there are many instances where minors (kuno) kill and are not prosecuted because of kiko. syempre, minos kill under the influence of drugs and are roaming around, pati police, takot silang hulihin.
    when minors committed a crime and were arrested, the arresting police officers, under the law on CICL, MUST deliver the the minors to the LSWDO (local social welfare development officer) within 8 hours from the time of the arrest. this is an exception to periods (12, 18, and 36 hrs) provided for under Article 125 of the RPC in relation to Section 5, Rule 113 of the 2000 Rules on Criminal Procedure.

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    Sabi ng Indonesia attorney General dahil daw kay pnoy. Malamang mali na naman si pnoy dito.

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    Saw this from FB.



    I know the one who posted.
    To good to be true!

    Sarap sagutin ng seryoso ka?

    Ano ka kamag anak? Hehe


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    I wonder how this will further turn outwhen the alleged recruiter is now making rounds in the media saying na di nya alam / kilala yung allegedly nagbigay ng bag kay MJ...

    kungsabagay.... from the start tingin ko ang kaya lang gawin dyan ay idelay yung execution.. pero to completely reverse... ewan ko...


    and weird ah.. the alleged recruiter surrendered.. and submitted to police custody apparently for her own protection... may press release din ata earlier (hope its not just press release) na may case na filed sa doj..

    if thats the situation, tindi din na nakakapag ikot sya.. na ang dapat ay bakuran ng doj and interrogate...

    as usual nauna media sa information... lalo tuloy humihina ang law enforcement arm ng gobyerno... hinahayaan muna media...
    Last edited by wowiesy; April 29th, 2015 at 02:17 PM.

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    So there is just a complaint based on drugmules' testimony filed with no evidence by the NBI with much inventigating...But no case filed yet by the DOJ in court...tama ba?

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    #20
    abangan.. abangan na lang natin sa MMK yan..

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