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    Here's the link
    MMDA supports move to sell cars only to those with parking spaces | Nation, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

    Kawawa naman yun mga pamilyadong yuppies na gusto lang eh ma-promote para makuha yun car plan nila para sa convenience ng family nila.

    Could this be any better that road widening, clearing out illegal settlers/vendors, unruly PUVs, trikes and padyaks?

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    If this is true, then unahin nila mga PUV/PUB/Jeepneys na pare-parehong gumagarahe sa lansangan! Sama na nila mga truck na naka-park lang sa side-streets!

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    Sa korea kahit mayaman sa kalsada naka park sasakyan nila. Wala naman problema. Dahil hindi uso garahe dun. Wala na bang ibang maisip na paraan ang gobyerno natin?

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    Lets hope they make this applicable to even the subdivisions. There are many lots owners who don't bother to allocate sufficient space to store all their vehicles so they end up parking at other people's curb. For example: a two car house whose owners has 4-6 cars.

    In my opinion, using the streets as the one's garage is not acceptable since it clutters our already crowded streets. Also that slot technically belongs to the government as part of the easement.

    To me this is a very ideal regulation or law that I'm rooting for. It helps instill some form of discipline towards some very selfish and unruly neighbors I have. But of course, this is not going to pass as many will surely oppose it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radz15 View Post
    Sa korea kahit mayaman sa kalsada naka park sasakyan nila. Wala naman problema. Dahil hindi uso garahe dun. Wala na bang ibang maisip na paraan ang gobyerno natin?
    In case you missed it hindi tayo kalevel ng SoKor.

    Nakaisip na nga ng paraan eh? Hindi pa ba sapat yun? Tama naman sa tingin ko. Disiplina lang ng hindi makaabala sa ibang tao. Public roads are not meant to be parking lot.




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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    In case you missed it hindi tayo kalevel ng SoKor.

    Nakaisip na nga ng paraan eh? Hindi pa ba sapat yun? Tama naman sa tingin ko. Disiplina lang ng hindi makaabala sa ibang tao. Public roads are not meant to be parking lot.




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    What i mean is hindi naman sa major roads naka park ang sasakyan nila so wala naman effect sa traffic yun. Kadalasan sa mga bario o hindi busy na kalye naka park ang mga yan. Edsa, c5, and other major roads ang natatrafic. Para sakin ang main culprit sa trafic is yung mga uneducated PUV drivers especially ang mga BUS at Jeepneys. Kung may systema lang ang loading and unloading at kung mas mahigpit lang mga mga MMDA at mga TMO sa pag sita sa mga ungas na driver mas malelessen sana ang traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutz_3110 View Post
    Could this be any better that road widening, clearing out illegal settlers/vendors, unruly PUVs, trikes and padyaks?
    It's easier for the MMDA to push for that rather than to enforce the existing laws (as with the LGUs, LTFRB, LTO, etc.) and expand infrastructure (and public transport modes). If LGUs, private developments and villages strictly enforced parking rules on the streets then vehicle owners will be forced to find parking (owned or rented). That's the case in our village now, street parking (overnight) is strictly prohibited and everyone obeys; no ifs, no buts.

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    reklamo na naman ginagawan na nga ng paraan. bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan hindi nag-iisip

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    I for one support this proposal , kahit na alam natin na di papasa to.

    Isa lang sa mga ways to kung paano macocontrol yung paglobo ng bilang ng sasakyan na ginagamit sa daan, isipin nyo na lang yung bagong sasakyan + surplus + mga bulok na jeep plus yung mga scooter/ motor ,

    Mahirap naman kasi kung minsan yung reasoning ng iba sa atin na kawawa na naman ang mahirap .

    Just look at the big pictures guys , sooner or later kung slang drastic measures na gagawin ang gobyerno e wala na talagang daanan.

    In Singapore , before you are allowed to buy a vehicle you are required to secure a COE that is worth more than the car price. And parking fees are strictly regulated and being enforced .

    If anyone in this country only realises that buying a vehicle is not a right but a responsibility both to you as the owner and he people around you then maybe I can say that we still have a hope.

    Just my singko centimo opinion , no intent to hit the ego and pride of the poor daw.

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    Eh marami kasi dito sa Tsikot puro complain lang alam. 😂

    Yung energy at stress na sinasayang nila sa kakatira sa gobyerno sana nilaan nalang nila sa paggawa ng mabuti para sa pamilya nila and the people around them.

    From my experience, those who complain a lot are also usually the ones who're all talk and no action.

    If you want change, start with yourself. Unless of course napakaperfect na tao ng mga resident complainants dito 😂


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    ^ shots fired haha peace!


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    i suppose it's only fair..
    you buy a car.. you park it someplace where it will not "inconvenience" others.

    but our government shouldn't stop here..
    they should actively tow away those who have made the road their garage..
    and they should also clean the sidewalks and roadsides of other impediments to motorist and pedestrian traffic.... repair shops, samalamig stalls, labahan and kulahan areas, binabargain stalls, even sala extensions!

    i mean, anyone who does not see these, is either blind or lying thru the teeth.

    will these moves improve traffic? ...hard to say, as we've never really, sincerely tried it before..
    i do know of several alternatives to edsa or taft or avenida or quezon avenue, but i don't try 'em now because of the parked vehicles on 'em..
    Last edited by dr. d; November 4th, 2014 at 02:24 PM.

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    Enforcement is key. We have more than enough laws and local regulations.


    If Mayor Lim can paint a pusher's house in red as part of a shame campaign, or Chairman Bayani dousing kerosene to illegal vendors' goods, why don't enforcers try a swipe of red acrylic paint over a violator's car windshield, just to push a point. Next time, it'll be as a complete color change including the tyres.

    Dapat na talaga paghaluin ang balat sa tinalupan pagdating sa traffic at proper road use.


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    If this so called ruling is implemented, its a death warrant to the local automotive manufacturing corporations.

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    They should start by scouring Metro Manila and collecting derelict vehicles na naka tambak sa kalye.

    I used to live in the Scouts area and our street has a lot of these non-road worthy cars and pickups na naka balandra sa kalye. There's an old pickup near our old home that has been there for years. May eco-system na yung bubong. When confronted, the owner keeps on saying that the car is a "project car" and he'll work on it soon, ek ek.
    Kung ligpitin ng MMDA yung mga yon, malaking improvements na yon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    Enforcement is key. We have more than enough laws and local regulations.


    If Mayor Lim can paint a pusher's house in red as part of a shame campaign, or Chairman Bayani dousing kerosene to illegal vendors' goods, why don't enforcers try a swipe of red acrylic paint over a violator's car windshield, just to push a point. Next time, it'll be as a complete color change including the tyres.

    Dapat na talaga paghaluin ang balat sa tinalupan pagdating sa traffic at proper road use.


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    titirahin ka naman ng mga hinayupak na human rights group dapat talaga may "batas" para kahit magdadadaldal sila sa media wala din silang magagawa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    titirahin ka naman ng mga hinayupak na human rights group dapat talaga may "batas" para kahit magdadadaldal sila sa media wala din silang magagawa.
    Bwahahaha!

    Kung pwede lang yung bunganga nila yung hahaplusan ng pintura, okay sana!

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    i get the rationale behind it, but:

    - how are people supposed to prove they have the parking space? Take a picture? Send LTO a floorplan of their home? Will the LTO conduct an inspection whether it exists or not? i could easily take a picture at the Megamall parking building and say it's at my home. Kung hindi rin nila maenforce ng maayos, that's just additional red tape.

    - yes, cars parked on roads are a headache...but are they *really* the main problem? Yung traffic ba sa EDSA, caused by parked private cars? imho even with 100% compliance, the impact of this would be minimal.

    - to be fair, they should go after other illegally parked vehicles/structures: tricycle drivers, abandoned cars, buses/jeeps "parked" in the middle of the road while barking for passengers.

    - what if i have enough parking space for 100 cars. OK lang? How does that solve the problem of having "too many private cars" on the roads?

    - are private cars *really* the source of traffic? i'd say public transport would be responsible for 90% of the problem.

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    If this so called ruling is implemented, its a death warrant to the local automotive manufacturing corporations.
    Ito yung nakikita ko na malaking impact. Sales agents will print their resumes again when this is implemented. Some condominiums will be impacted too kapag bitin ang parking spaces nila, aalis ang tenant dahil hindi makabili ng sasakyan. Mababawasan yung branches ng car manufacturers kasi hihina ang sales. Dadami ang unemployed nito. Lolobo lalo yung sasakay sa jeep, bus, at mrt/lrt. Yung 1 hour na pila bago makasakay magiging 2 hours na. The list goes on, pero worst case scenario na siguro ito, tipong apocalyptic view hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    i get the rationale behind it, but:

    - how are people supposed to prove they have the parking space? Take a picture? Send LTO a floorplan of their home? Will the LTO conduct an inspection whether it exists or not? i could easily take a picture at the Megamall parking building and say it's at my home. Kung hindi rin nila maenforce ng maayos, that's just additional red tape.

    - yes, cars parked on roads are a headache...but are they *really* the main problem? Yung traffic ba sa EDSA, caused by parked private cars? imho even with 100% compliance, the impact of this would be minimal.

    - to be fair, they should go after other illegally parked vehicles/structures: tricycle drivers, abandoned cars, buses/jeeps "parked" in the middle of the road while barking for passengers.

    - what if i have enough parking space for 100 cars. OK lang? How does that solve the problem of having "too many private cars" on the roads?

    - are private cars *really* the source of traffic? i'd say public transport would be responsible for 90% of the problem.
    Ang totoo tatamaan din ako dito.. Pero either sapul ako o hindi ng maging batas na to... Ang masabi ko lang ito talaga ang punto...

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