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  1. Join Date
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    China is THE one country you would not want to get on its bad side. Even the US and Japan are having a hard time trying to appease the Chinese. They don't easily forgive and forget.


    Malacañang said the planned high-level Philippine delegation to Hong Kong and Beijing to explain the government’s action on the Aug. 23 tragedy will no longer push through.

    The announcement, made by Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda confirmed what had been talked about in diplomatic circles: the Philippines had been told by China unofficially that they would not welcome the delegation as long as they don’t see anybody being made accountable for the tragedy that killed eight of their people.

    Lacierda, who was supposed to be part of the delegation together with Vice President Jejomar Binay and Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo, said, “The Chinese foreign ministry could not schedule us.”

    This comes after the Chinese government also declined three requests by the Philippines for a meeting between Aquino and the Chinese leader in the three international events that the former attended.

    Last September, in his first foreign trip to the United States to attend the opening of the 65th United Nations General Assembly, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) requested for a meeting between President Aquino and Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao. The Chinese foreign ministry told the DFA that Wen’s schedule could not accommodate PNoy.

    At this time, the report of the Incident Investigation and Review Committee (IIRC) headed by Justice Secretary Leila de Lima had been submitted to Malacañang and the Chinese Embassy in Manila but Aquino said it would be subjected for review by his legal advisers led by Executive Secretary Paquito”Jojo” Ochoa.

    When Aquino came back from the U.S., he upheld the recommendations of his legal team which watered down the IIRC recommendation. Interior Undersecretary Rico Puno and former chief of the Philippine National Police Jesus Versoza were cleared of any accountability for the tragedy. Manila Mayor Lim’s accountability was also reduced to an administrative one which up to now has not been implemented.

    Another request for a meeting with Wen in Hanoi last October was made where the two leaders would be going for the ASEAN-plus-three summit. Still, the Chinese government declined.

    Early this month, the DFA requested for a meeting between Aquino and Chinese President Hu Jintao on the sidelines of the 18th Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Leaders meeting in Yokohama, Japan. No meeting took place.

    Aquino, however, was able to meet with Hong Kong Chief Executive Donald Tsang. Communications Secretary Ricky Carandang told members of media that the two leaders discussed the August 23 hostage taking incident and that it was a “productive” meeting.

    Carandang did not elaborate what was “productive” about the meeting but added, “We believe that this (Aug 23 incident) will be a closed chapter soon.”

    Carandang did not say if Tsang told Aquino that they wanted to see “accountability” in the tragic incident.

    The Chinese have demonstrated in all their dealings that they do not forget easily. Unlike Filipinos, they have a long memory.

    Why would the Philippines care about China’s displeasure ?

    Whenever Aquino is asked about his foreign policy, he would talk about the overseas Filipino workers and the need to strengthen the economy. It could only mean that his main priority in relations with foreign countries is to protect the OFWs whose $18 billion remittances have become the pillar that holds the country’s economy.

    Aquino should be made to understand that international relations is a complex web of inter-related interests. He cannot bungle in one issue involving a foreign country, gloss over it, and expect it to fade away.

    In the same way, economic relations cannot be be pursued vigorously without consideration of lingering political issues and sensitivity to cultural values.

    China is now an economic superpower. The Chinese are masters in the art of being inscrutable. It would be wise for the Philippines, for its own interest, not to take the Chinese snub lightly.
    http://blogs.gmanews.tv/ellen-tordes...e-meeting.html

  2. Join Date
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    di nila type mga bobo sa palasyo...

  3. Join Date
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    a bunch of amateurs playing bahay-bahayan (i mean playing government) think they can handle foreign relations?

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    shhh... don't give the chinese a clue that we have a government ran by children... baka magdala ng paddle, meron pa naman ngayong campaign against child abuse
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    balik na kasi tayo sa US. get rid of the NPA na alam naman natin kung sino backer, snub Chinese importers etc. etc.

    in that way, makikita nila na pag wala sila hawak sa'tin dito and we're US loyal saka sila bumalik at wag magmatigas

    napaka-strategic ng Pilipinas sa buong mundo.

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    Give them the finger.

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    China's way of saying: WALA KAYONG KWENTANG KAUSAP

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    Everyone saw how they bungled this incident. Was anyone held liable? Even the IIRC report halatang pinakialam kasi mga kaibigan at party mates ang ikakaso. Otherwise, white wash. Pero okay lang naman sa mga pinoy. That's why this country is so screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    balik na kasi tayo sa US. get rid of the NPA na alam naman natin kung sino backer, snub Chinese importers etc. etc.

    in that way, makikita nila na pag wala sila hawak sa'tin dito and we're US loyal saka sila bumalik at wag magmatigas

    napaka-strategic ng Pilipinas sa buong mundo.
    Easier said than done. Whether we like it or not, the Chinese are just ascending the economic stage at the proper time. They offer alternative means for production at very low cost, there is no way we could compete with them. Even the US and European Union is heavily dependent on them.

    On topic there's nothing PNoy could do than just wait till the appropriate time to do what is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ans_lim168 View Post
    On topic there's nothing PNoy could do than just wait till the appropriate time to do what is needed.
    yeah... wait for them to forget about the whole incident
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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