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    Somebody has a serious crush on the PRC...

    Author: Forget America, future of PH bound with China
    By David Dizon, ABS-CBNnews.com

    Posted at 11/21/2012 11:32 AM | Updated as of 11/21/2012 12:27 PM


    MANILA, Philippines – British author Dr. Martin Jacques believes it is high time for the Philippines to stop acting like a proxy for the United States and resolve its sea dispute with China by recognizing the importance of its relationship with the civilization state.

    Speaking to ANC’s Headstart, Jacques said the Western-centric mentality of the Philippines after 50 years of American colonization means that the country is “behind the curve” when it comes to recognizing the importance of trade in China.

    “The Philippines must recognize which way the world is moving and what is happening to their own region. They need the big picture, not starting with the little picture which is some rocky islands. You can't start thinking about the future of the Philippines in those terms because this region is being absolutely transformed in a remarkably short space of time by the rise of China. To be frank with you, historically speaking, forget about America in this region. It is in decline. It is in rampant decline,” he told Headstart host Karen Davila.

    He added: “The future of this region for the indefinite future is going to be more and more bound up with China. Therefore the critical relationship not just for the Philippines but for Malaysia, Thailand, South Korea and even Japan in the longer run is China.”

    Jacques is the author of the bestselling book "When China Rules The World: The End Of The Western World And The Birth Of A New Global Order.”

    In the interview, Jacques noted that China does not have a history of overseas, maritime-based colonization, preferring instead to expand its reach westward in its own continent.

    He also noted that the Chinese regarded themselves as the center of civilization and often looked down on other peoples.

    The author said China has a very sophisticated culture with an extremely advanced form of governance, making it one of the most competent states in the world.

    Dispute over Panatag shoal

    In the interview, Jacques said he believes the Philippines can resolve its ongoing territorial dispute with China over the Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal in the West Philippine Sea without involving the US.

    The author said he does not believe the Philippines should abandon its territorial claim over the Panatag Shoal, noting that he is agnostic about whose claim is more legitimate.
    “It’s a difficult problem but not an impossible problem to sort out. The argument over the island should not be allowed to derail the relationship with China, to poison the relationship and to sabotage the relationship. That is so shortsighted. That is so backward looking. That is so regressive. The Philippines has got to find a way of handling the island question in the context of engaging with China,” he said.

    “It is perfectly possible to reach a settlement with China on the island. There’s not going to be a war over the island. The East China Sea and Japan is an entirely different question, there will not be a war in the South China Sea over these islands with any of the claimants,” he added.

    Jacques said it is not surprising that the Philippines “feels itself to be almost a proxy for the United States” in the Americans’ pivot towards Asia.

    “What the Philippines shouldn’t do and I think it is sorely tempted to do and if I may say so, being a little bit down that road, is to think, ‘Well, we can sort out the Chinese with our American allies. Anyway, they’re encouraging us to be a little bit vocal about this question.’ I’m afraid that has happened. What’s happened is the relationship with China has deteriorated and the Philippines is in a way been a bit of a stalking horse for the American pivot in the region and I don’t think this is good news for the country. If what I am saying is true, in that the future of this region is China, they are making the wrong point in asking the wrong question. The question is not how can we have an argument with China, but how can we get on with China?”
    So, he wants the PH to get along with a nation which looks at itself as the center of civilization and "often looks down on others"?

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    ^ I think what he means is the rest of asia should play (blindly) along with big daddy.

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    Ilan kaya binayad sakanya?

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    Let's play ball with China, because they're going to rule the world.

    Is that before or after the upcoming Chinese domestic-consumption slowdown and possible recession?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Pinahiya ni Obama...

    PHNOM PENH - US President Barack Obama on Tuesday defied Chinese protests and raised concerns at a summit about territorial disputes that have sent diplomatic and trade shockwaves across the region.

    Obama weighed into the debate over China's sweeping claims to the South China Sea, which have rattled less powerful Southeast Asian countries, as well as a separate rift between Beijing and Tokyo over islands in the East China Sea.

    "I think President Obama's message is there needs to be a reduction of the tensions... to ensure that these types of disputes don't risk escalation," Ben Rhodes, a senior aide to the president, told reporters.

    In response to concerns raised by Obama and other leaders at the 18-nation East Asia Summit in Cambodia, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao issued a stern admonishment of China's critics and a strong defence of his country's claims.

    "We do not want to bring the disputes to an occasion like this," Wen told Obama and the other leaders in one of the final sessions of the two-day event, according to Chinese vice foreign minister Fu Ying.

    "China's act of defending its sovereignty is necessary and legitimate... and we have properly handled the incidents that were not of the making of China."

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    british yan e, para naman di natin kilala ang lahi ng mga yan. puro highest bidder lang lahat yang mga yan. para din sa rig, kung sino pinakamagaling sumipsep siya maganda evaluation. yung ugali nila nuon na mga "colonizers" pa sila yun pa din ugali nila hangang ngayon. pag intsik, pana o itim na mahihilig humagod ng burat ng brit e naku naman laging abot hangang langit ang papuri. pag nakatagpo naman ng pilipino na lahi ng namumugot ng ulo ng dayuhan e bad shot lagi ang pinoy.

    parang discovery channel, halatang bayaran. yung discovery channel e pati america e china daw ang naka-discover. lahat na lang e china nauna, china nag-discover, china nag-imbento. kulang na lang sabihin na chinese si God e.

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    Madali ma impress mga puti sa progress ng China. Punta ka lang cities at tignan mo yung progress compared 10 years ago. Di nila nakikita yung sa probinsya. toilet nila nakabaon pa sa lupa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    toilet nila nakabaon pa sa lupa...
    toilet nila may 4 na paa. at pag malaki na kinakatay at kinakain ulit.

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    Ibalik nalang natin ang España at mga ibang Europeo as the world powers... balik ulit sa medieval ages. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Ibalik nalang natin ang España at mga ibang Europeo as the world powers... balik ulit sa medieval ages. :D
    Ibalik ang western imperialism sa Asia. Ibalik ang Hong Kong sa British rule!

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    Mga Kano at mga Brits,- mayroon silang love-hate relationship... Inggit kasi ang mga Brits sa progress ng Amerika,- e dati lang nilang teritoryo ito....

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    Sa dami ng sinabi nya, sya rin mismo sumagot na mahirap na issue ang territorial disputes ... huwag na lang sya mag suggest ng kung ano ano wala rin naman pala mapapala for us.

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    Noting the author's surname and adverse comments regarding America, one might surmise he is a Frenchman rather than a Brit.

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    hmm, i wonder why he cherry-picks facts about prc considering he was kind of a marxist before he raised an indian family. which means he definitely can sympathise with the asian minority but he didn't sound like, or think like he should. the uk is the king of documentaries so i wouldn't be surprised if another brit-made doco raises an opposing view. they may sound legit but some from the likes of top gear infotainments should only be taken with a grain of salt.

    funding and grant money, that's all there is to it.

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    IEA Pegs U.S. as Top Oil Producer by 2020 - WSJ.com

    IEA Pegs U.S. as Top Oil Producer by 2020

    BY BENOÎT FAUCON AND SARAH KENT

    A shale-oil boom will thrust the U.S. ahead of Saudi Arabia as the world's largest oil producer by 2020, a radical shift that could profoundly transform not just the world's energy supplies but also its geopolitics, the International Energy Agency said.

    In its closely watched annual World Energy Outlook, the IEA, which advises industrialized nations on their energy policies, said the global energy map "is being redrawn by the resurgence in oil and gas production in the United States."
    Better not cut ties with the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helios View Post
    hmm, i wonder why he cherry-picks facts about prc considering he was kind of a marxist before he raised an indian family. which means he definitely can sympathise with the asian minority but he didn't sound like, or think like he should. the uk is the king of documentaries so i wouldn't be surprised if another brit-made doco raises an opposing view. they may sound legit but some from the likes of top gear infotainments should only be taken with a grain of salt.

    funding and grant money, that's all there is to it.
    What Dr. Martin Jacques conveniently forgets is that:

    i. China has, in fact, resorted to violence when it comes to protecting its territorial claims (see Vietnam and the Paracel Islands)

    ii. China, while a growing economic power, has used its vast economic resources to build up its military capability and will likely have the capability to deliver nuclear-tipped missiles from submarines in a few years. If it seeks a "peaceful rise" in the world, why ramp up the capability to send nukes?

    iii. It's not for China to determine what race or nation is inferior to them, since, under international law, all nations are treated equally. I don't care how long their civilization has been in existence.

    iv. He implies that giving up the PH's territorial claims or toning it down is the way to go in a "strategic partnership" with China. So what remains of the sovreignty of the PH?

    For someone with a PhD., his conclusions are outlandish and unrealistic. China does not represent all of Asia, despite the vastness of its land mass and their huge population.
    Last edited by Altis6453; November 23rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM.

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    Once they fix the oil pipeline issue, the US may have the ability to export. It's only when they do that it will change the face of the international oil trade. As it is, despite the ultra-low WTI price, the US still uses up what it produces.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    you become a global power when your currency becomes the currency of international trade

    China's currency is FAR from replacing the US dollar

    the CNY isnt even among the 4 major currencies (USD, EUR, JPY, GBP)

    China's modernization is superficial

    they have impressive buildings and bridges and airports and malls and high speed rail but most of their people are still poor

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Once they fix the oil pipeline issue, the US may have the ability to export. It's only when they do that it will change the face of the international oil trade. As it is, despite the ultra-low WTI price, the US still uses up what it produces.
    and not all US refineries have access to domestic oil

    many US refineries buy imported oil that's Brent-priced

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    mcarthur was right all along, they should have nuked china during the korean war.

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