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    I need to buy a bus and I am considering either a China (Yuchai) or a Hyundai bus engine. Can you help me decide. Thank you.

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    quite frankly, this is no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charina80 View Post
    I need to buy a bus and I am considering either a China (Yuchai) or a Hyundai bus engine. Can you help me decide. Thank you.
    Philippines bus lol
    We tried china ones didn't work out for us cool electronics thought but in the shop always never tried Hyundai I'm pretty sure will hold up better than china

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    Quote Originally Posted by charina80 View Post
    I need to buy a bus and I am considering either a China (Yuchai) or a Hyundai bus engine. Can you help me decide. Thank you.
    Philippines bus lol
    We tried china ones didn't work out for us cool electronics thought but in the shop always never tried Hyundai I'm pretty sure will hold up better than china

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    reliability - Hyundai
    aesthetics - china bus

    pero wag mo ng dagdagan ang balang ipuputok sa atin ng china. hth

    Maganda din sana Philippine made buses kaya lang tinitipid at sobrang taas ng presyo sobrang tagtag din hindi komportableng sakyan pag long distance. Weekly akong bumibiyahe kahit de luxe ng Victory Liner na Ph made at China made hindi ako makatulog sa Korean made lang ng Fivestar ako nakakatulog.
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    Yuchai it's one of the biggest engine manufacturing plant in the world... Afaik makers din yan ng WArtsila engines.. Wartsila engines is used by power plants in different parts of world... That runs contineously for years... Pero madami din makers ng Yuchai sa china.. Kaya alamin nyo kung Saan factory ng Yuchai ginawa...
    If I were you get a oem cummins engine nalang to be sure... China made pero matibay din... Ginagamit sa mga IH head.. Kta19 Ang engine model Na gamit.. Kung bus Lang, Ntaa engine Lang... Pag nag overhaul kayo hindi din naman mahal parts at madami na Kasi lumabas na cummins engine... Importante Lang magaling mag overhaul ng cummins engine ang mechanico na gagawa... Hindi uubra Mga mechanico ng sasakyan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Yuchai it's one of the biggest engine manufacturing plant in the world... Afaik makers din yan ng WArtsila engines.. Wartsila engines is used by power plants in different parts of world... That runs contineously for years... Pero madami din makers ng Yuchai sa china.. Kaya alamin nyo kung Saan factory ng Yuchai ginawa...
    If I were you get a oem cummins engine nalang to be sure... China made pero matibay din... Ginagamit sa mga IH head.. Kta19 Ang engine model Na gamit.. Kung bus Lang, Ntaa engine Lang... Pag nag overhaul kayo hindi din naman mahal parts at madami na Kasi lumabas na cummins engine... Importante Lang magaling mag overhaul ng cummins engine ang mechanico na gagawa... Hindi uubra Mga mechanico ng sasakyan..
    bro wala ng kumukuha ng Yuchai engine sa mga malalaking bus company sa planta pa lang daw palit na agad either Hino, Nissan, MAN, Daewoo, Hyundai. Yung Cummins engine naman ni Partas laging nag-ooverheat dalawang bus ang sunod na nasunog

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    May problema cooling system nyan.. Ang dami namin cummins engine, Wala naman problemA sa overheat.. Kahit full load load pa on prime power... Walang overheat...

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    Meron din kami IH head... Surplus Lang na cummins KTA engine kinabit namin.. Hindi naman nag ooverheat.. aFAIK may breather kasi yan... Meron dapat nilalagay na bypass hose sa engine papuntang radiator.. Pag nag drain kasi sila ng water, nagkakaron ng vacuum or air pocket, kaya hindi nag cicirculate ang tubig.. Ganun din catterpilar engines...

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    Yung mga heavy equipment like bulldozer, crane truck, etc cummins or weichai din engine nun... lta or cta engine gamit..

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    Cummins engine di matibay. Madaling bumigay ang turbo, madaling masira injection pump, injectors, pistons, liners. At totoo di basta mekaniko pwedeng gumawa nyan, iba ang pag-set in injectors nyan, pag nagkamali ng pag-set ng injectors bali mga push rods nyan. Injector pump nyan 6000 hours lang bumibigay na, for replacement na. At huwag ka na umasa ng overhaul lang ng injection pump at mas mahal pa magpa-overhaul kesa bumili ng bago. Turbo nyan dapat laging proper warm up at cool down. Pag di yan alam ng driver/operator katok agad turbo nyan di man lang aabot ng 5000 hours operation yan. Pati radiator fan idler pulley shaft nyan mahina, undersized kaya nababali.

    First hand experience yan. Made in china cummins mahina!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Cummins engine di matibay. Madaling bumigay ang turbo, madaling masira injection pump, injectors, pistons, liners. At totoo di basta mekaniko pwedeng gumawa nyan, iba ang pag-set in injectors nyan, pag nagkamali ng pag-set ng injectors bali mga push rods nyan. Injector pump nyan 6000 hours lang bumibigay na, for replacement na. At huwag ka na umasa ng overhaul lang ng injection pump at mas mahal pa magpa-overhaul kesa bumili ng bago. Turbo nyan dapat laging proper warm up at cool down. Pag di yan alam ng driver/operator katok agad turbo nyan di man lang aabot ng 5000 hours operation yan. Pati radiator fan idler pulley shaft nyan mahina, undersized kaya nababali.

    First hand experience yan. Made in china cummins mahina!
    How about Cummins na US made?

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    Wala na US made cummins china na

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    Sir yebo Meron kaming unit ng China cummins, genset nga Lang, 17000 running hours na as of last year, Wala pa kaming pinapalitan sa engine, maliban sa temperature and oil sender...

    And sir yebo NASA 30,000 plus cummins engine na nabenta namin.. Dito po sa pilipinas.. (Not my daughter co.)
    Pero if you are going to check our repair and overhaul area ang makikita nyo Lang ginagawa dun, Yung mga genset na at least 15-25 years old na.. As in old na talaga...

    Ang ikakasira Lang naman ng cummins engine or genset is pag overloaded.. And if not properly maintained.. Actually a typical cummins engine can still run at 110% of its rating for 20-30mins... Before mag overheat...

    overhaul mahal? Baka po Tinataga ka Lang ng mechanico mo sir... Mura Lang parts ng cummins... Ano bang engine model ng cummins mo sir 6bt, lta, cta , nta, Kta, Q series, usually Parepareho parts ng cummins... Usually pinagkaiba Lang kung hindi in line, V type..

    Madami kasing fake cummins, baka fake nakuha nyo sir.... Meron kaming competitors nagbebenta fake engine, pati alternator, sumasabog pa nga Alternator nila...

    Yung turbo naman may settings po yan, naka set na po cool down period... Baka naman sa emergency stop pinapatay?

    Injection pump and injectors--- matibay yan sir.. Wag Lang mabababaran ng tubig..

    Kahit pa nga hindi mo gamitin yan ng 15years, nauulanan, Araw.... Hangang sa kapitan pa ng talaba... Change oil mo Lang, and minsan calibrate ng noozle, tatakbo ulit... Then we load bank it.. Pinaka mababa na 80%....

    Wag Lang po papasukin ng tubig intake and exhaust manifold..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Wala na US made cummins china na
    Meron pa din sir... Bnew made in Japan or usa.

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    teka lang ha sa genset bang sinasabi mo or yung cummin engine mismo? kasi kung matibay ang cummins engine bakit ayaw gamitin ng mga bus company?

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    Engine NTA pang 350kva - 438kva

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    teka lang ha sa genset bang sinasabi mo or yung cummin engine mismo? kasi kung matibay ang cummins engine bakit ayaw gamitin ng mga bus company?
    Same Lang engine ng generator at ginagamit sa heavy equipment pati bus or IH head.. Usually ginagamit KTA na engine...
    Kung naka 6CTa Lang hindi talaga tatagal at mahina power nun... Dapat KTA gamit..

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    Just like these Pero single turbo Lang and in line 6 Lang..
    kta19 Lang... Kta38 kasi ito.. Pero parehong pareho..

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    Kta19. Matibay laklak sa krudo

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    Cummins made in China for Asia market are junks, Cummins made in China for export are good, Cummins made in USA are better They are one of the leading engine manufacturer an engine of choice for buses & big rigs even International, Peterbilt,Kenworth and Volvo that manufacture their own engine offer cummins as option now Nissan is turning to cummins to power their pick up when they also have UD Diesel engine? Cummins part made in China for US market has same quality as US made parts quality control I guess use them all the time I'm not talking about external parts it's actually an overhaul kit pistons, rods,liners, pin bearings, ring, etc. And yes your average mechanic will be scratching his,her head trying to work on them. We use the ISB on small buses and pick up trucks, M11 on big Buses and ISX on class 8 trucks the 5.9 B series and 6.7 ISB are dominating the motor sports from drag racing, 200mph in boniville to sled pulling competition even on dyno for high hp run. Both of my cummins has over 400,000 Klm each all I did was 3 water pump on both and a fuel lift pump on one of them aside from the reg oil change..

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