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    From the April 2005 issue of the influential Consumer Reports magazine based on 400,000 Americans surveyed, the least reliable trucks,SUVs and vans:

    SUVs: Landrover Freelander,Lincoln Navigator,Volkswagen Touareg, Volvo XC90,Nissan Armada,Chevrolet Blazer,Ford Excursion,Hummer H2, Porsche Cayenne,Mercedes-Benz M-class,Chevrolet Trailblazer,GMC Envoy, Ford Expedition,Saturn VUE

    Minivans: Nissan Quest,Chevrolet Astro,GMC Safari,Mazda MPV

    Pickup Trucks: Ford F-150(4WD)

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    hmmm interesting. I wonder why? Some of these vehicles seem very reliable to me.

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    XC90, Touareg and M Class kakagulat a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rediesel
    XC90, Touareg and M Class kakagulat a.

    Yung M-class talagang known to be unreliable simula pa nung lumabas ito. Isa to sa mga ni-research ko nung kumuha ako ng MDX. Yung Touareg masyado pang bago para malaman kung reliable o hindi.

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    hah...lahat ng options ko for my next vehicle are on that list

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    Touareg and Cayenne? why, oh why?

    mahanap nga yung article to see the criteria. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by nugundam93
    Touareg and Cayenne? why, oh why?

    mahanap nga yung article to see the criteria. :D
    according to CR, close to 400,000 people responded to their survey and involved 810,000 vehicles (makes sense, the average American household has 2 vehicles) and they were asked to report serious problems they have encountered with their vehicles during the previous 12 months.the survey includes 17 trouble areas ranging from engine, transmission,hardware and electrical systems for vehicles up to 8 years old.they were instructed to exclude problems covered by the manufacturer's warranty and not to consider normal maintenance issues.responses are excluded if they are inaccurate, responders who drive less than the national average (12,000 miles yearly[19,200kms]) are also tossed out.

    the issue comes out on march 8, I'm not a subscriber so i have to wait to buy one unless one of you guys have it already.not everybody in america believes in Consumer Reports ,like these guys:

    CR surveys are flawed

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    wala bang reviews na magbabackup dito?

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    SUVs: Landrover Freelander,Lincoln Navigator,Volkswagen Touareg, Volvo XC90,Nissan Armada,Chevrolet Blazer,Ford Excursion,Hummer H2, Porsche Cayenne,Mercedes-Benz M-class,Chevrolet Trailblazer,GMC Envoy, Ford Expedition,Saturn VUE
    These are guys are too picky. whats their basis/criteria? so whats the most "reliable"?SUV?

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    SUVs: Landrover Freelander,Lincoln Navigator,Volkswagen Touareg, Volvo XC90,Nissan Armada,Chevrolet Blazer,Ford Excursion,Hummer H2, Porsche Cayenne,Mercedes-Benz M-class,Chevrolet Trailblazer,GMC Envoy, Ford Expedition,Saturn VUE
    Hindi ako makapaniwala dito ah..

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    No Toyota Rav4?

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    ford expedition? di ba technically pareho naman sila ng F-150 which is dubbed as america's best selling pick-up

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    oh where art thou EXPLORER,
    defend your beloved FORD nameplate. suv you cant count on FORD EXPLODITION, trucks guess what your beloved F 150 is here too.
    we all know, you dont want to hurt your ego but you gotta admit your so called beloved ford is a failure. Ford Owner Really Dumb
    Last edited by wrxsti; March 7th, 2005 at 04:35 PM.

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    Ah... Survey? Mahirap yata yan. Some consumers are really dumb... Sasabihin sira agad yun pala di mine-maintain ng maayos... Di naman lahat.

    Akala ko naman long term test reports.

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    baka yan yun mga taong hindi makabili ng vehicles kaya nilagay nila not reliable para in denial lang sila

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    Quote Originally Posted by quiksie
    baka yan yun mga taong hindi makabili ng vehicles kaya nilagay nila not reliable para in denial lang sila
    Galing po sa mga owners yung survey. So yung mga meron ang nag participate.... (kaya nga Consumer Reports) hehehe

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    400,000 Americans surveyed
    walang scientific study? malabo nga yan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiper
    walang scientific study? malabo nga yan..
    sir, 400k is a more than adequate sample size basta random ang selection

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    masyado atang picky ang gumawa ng survey na yan. i wonder what is the most reliable to them...the new land rover discovery perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike727
    masyado atang picky ang gumawa ng survey na yan. i wonder what is the most reliable to them...the new land rover discovery perhaps?
    Best Minivan- Honda Odyssey(2004)(03), Toyota Sienna(02)(00)(99), Mazda MPV(01)
    Worst Minivan- Nissan Quest(2004), GMC Safari,Chevy Astro (03)(02)(00), Chrysler Town&Country/Dodge Grand Caravan(01), Ford Windstar(99)

    Best SUV- Honda Element,Mitsubishi Endeavor,Subaru Forester (2004), Toyota Highlander (03), Toyota Land Cruiser (02), Toyota 4Runner(01), Honda CR-V(00)(99)
    Worst SUV- Lincoln Navigator,Nissan Armada(2004), Volvo XC90 (03), Land Rover Freelander (02), Mercedes-Benz M-Class (01)(00), Jeep Grand Cherokee (99)

    Best Truck- Toyota Tacoma (2004)(03)(02)(01)(00)(99)
    Worst Truck- Dodge Dakota(AWD) (2004)(99), Chevrolet S10/GMC Sonoma (V6/AWD)(03)(02)(01)(00)

    number in parenthesis denote model years

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