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    what's the real difference between an AUV and an SUV. the CRV was known as an SUV but when they added extra seats it became an AUV. why is the XUV not an SUV? why is the everest not an AUV?

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    nice question..

    pag above 1M na price, SUV na category like everest?
    pero mas mukhang SUV pa nga ang crosswind XUV compared sa everest.. opinion ko lang po ito

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    tax evaders...kaya naging 10seater ung crv para less tax...tingin ko, anlaki ng kinita ng honda sa gen2 crv na yan...
    less quality, low profit, high sales. milyon na kaagad yun!

    ung evereset, ewan ko bakit naging suv, pero pick-up based siya. based on ford ranger.

    not sure kung bakit, lets wait for the tsikot gurus na lang

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    Traditional SUVs are frame-rail, full-sized vehicles on ladder frames. They are built for off-roading and for towing heavy loads. Originally SUVs were designed as the ultimate road-trip vehicles, but they have generally devolved into big cars.

    The Everest qualifies as a full SUV due to its size, power and ability. There is not much difference between an Everest and an Old Pajero or Trooper. Many modern SUVs were developed off of pick-up platforms, so don't complain it's not real!

    SUVs traditionally have powerplants in the 2.8 to 3+ liter diesel range, and the 3+ liter gasoline range.

    AUVs (Asian Utility Vehicles) are built with passenger-carrying capacity in mind. They are NOT AWD nor are they offered with an AWD option (so far). Neither are they rated for towing, as the suspension and drivetrain are not built heavily enough. The AUV bracket developed from tax restrictions and economic needs. AUVs traditionally have smaller footprints than SUVs, no towing capacity, and more interior seating space. AUVs traditionally have 1.8 - 2.5 liter diesel and 1.8 - 2.0 gas engines.

    The new Crosswind XUVi does have some Trooper suspension bits, but power-wise and ability-wise, doesn't qualify as a full SUV.


    CUVs (Compact Utility Vehicles) are baby SUVs, commonly built on a car chassis and with car engines. The Vitara doesn't qualify... it is a true SUV, built on frame-rails and set-up for off-roading. CUVs are rarely offered with diesel (although there is a 2.2 d X-Trail) and are not generally tow-rated...

    CUVs have more off-roading capability than AUVs, but don't have the heavy-duty undercarriage to go where true SUVs go.

    The CR-V is truly a CUV. It is the car that created the class.

    SUV
    -frame rail chassis
    -full-sized
    -large engine
    -available AWD
    -heavy duty suspension (traditionally leaf-spring)
    -high towing capacity
    -seats 5-7
    * A lot of modern SUVs have fully independent suspensions, non-frame-rail chassis, and no off-roading ability whatsoever... they are merely classified as SUVs because that's the market segment they target.

    CUV
    -car chassis
    -small-medium sized
    -car engine
    -car suspension (typically coil and strut)
    -available AWD, usually FWD
    -seats 5-7

    AUV
    -frame-rail chassis
    -medium sized
    -midsized engine
    -lighter suspension than SUV, traditionally leaf-spring
    -RWD only
    -not towing-rated
    -seats 7-12

    Not a definitive guide, but a good rule-of-thumb guide nonetheless.
    Last edited by niky; September 7th, 2004 at 02:18 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    AUV= Asian (ALL) Utility Vehicle
    dito lang na coined yang classification na vehicle na yan.
    dati nga walang pang classification yan nung time nung Tamarraw/Cimmaron/Fiera XLT

    then dumating na ang FX...then the Adventure, Hilander (then the Crosswind) and Revo dun na naging AUV.
    tapos nag add pa ng fender flares ang isuzu sa corsswind and lifted a few inches kaya nag mukhang macho ang crosswind.

    SUV=Sport Utility Vehicle
    it started out as an utility vehicle in the early age, mga broncos and the blazers nung 60s or 70s, then ne developed ito to be a people mover in the modern era. adding some sportiness to the rugged vehicle, thus the name.

    now as for the honda's scheme, they found a loophole sa dating excise tax law dati kaya nakapasok ang CRV as AUV by defintion.
    nagunggungan ang govt kaya super bilis na amendahan ang excise law.

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    Ah ganon ba yon?

    Kala ko pag AUV, released para sa Asian market only.

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    That's not far from the truth, actually... AUVs aren't sold in Europe or America.

    AUVs were developed as a cheaper alternative to other forms of transport, and as such, don't meet the stricter safety and emissions requirements of American and European markets... also, they're not much different in use from vans, which those other markets find roomier and more attractive.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Ah ok. Nalito kasi ako dati, bakit Pajero classified as AUV sa price list ng car mag (C! yata or something, basta local). Naisip ko baka dahil dito lang yung Pajero, kasi Montero sa US. A basta, magulo... Hehe.

    Tnx for the clarification.

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    the_wildthing,

    dati naka-classify ang CRV as AUV sa pricelist nila.. and pati din yung dating pajero.. mga pinilit na 10-seater mga ito,

    pag AUV kasi ang category eh mababa na excise tax ang babayaran ng mga car manufacturers (mga 3% lang yata instead of more than 10%) ..

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    Pajero an AUV??? Looks like someone had too much of the cold stuff hehehe.

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    pajero is too good to be an AUV....

    whatever they classify it, a pajero is a pajero, much like a land cruiser is a land cruiser...

    parang ganito yan eh, yung Honda Civic is classified as a Sedan but so is BMW 320i or Mercedes Benz 220C...

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    pajero as AUV?

    well, that was the result of the loophole back then at the excise tax law.

    vehicles are categorized under 3 types: passenger car, utility vehicle (UV), and sport utility vehicle (SUV).

    before the new excise tax law, all AUVs, some SUVs, pick-ups and vans were classified under UV... which enjoys a tax exemption when they have 10 seats or more... (only 5 seater like the Rav4 were classified as SUV) that is why the Pajero was categorized under the UV, so that it can enjoy the tax break. this was also the case with the CR-V. since they are classified under our law as UV and in the same boat as the AUVs, some people naturally came to the conclusion that they are AUVs also - which was the case with the CR-V.

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    The government originally defined Asian Utility Vehicles (AUVs) as commercial vehicles that are originally Philippine-designed or similarly designed low-cost vehicles with a higher local content than Light Commercial Vehicles (LCVs) and with a gross volume weight (GVW) of up to three tons.

    to differentiate the AUV with the SUV, i think the key words are "commercial vehicle". an AUV's primary purpose is to transport goods and people for business and/or necessity. thats why there's a 10-seater requirement. secondary na ang recreation and sports. an SUV, on the otherhand, has its sights aimed at recreation, sports, fun, luxury and other leisure activities. this is of course on top of providing the necessary transport requirements.

    physically ang difference na lang talaga ay ang 4wd or at least having a variant with 4wd or having a 4x4's ground clearance makes it an SUV. otherwise, AUV yun. or kung may nakita kang taxi or shuttle or pang delivery e considered nang AUV yung model na yun hehehe

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    basta para sa akin na di masyadong nakakaintindi sa sa mga UV na yan ang difference nila ay yung 'A' at 'S'. 'A' stands for Asian so sa Asia lang talaga sya existing. Yung 'S' stands for Sports so pwede sya sa mga sporting activities at ......... :freak:

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    kind of funny though that the bmw X5, volve xc90 are classified as SUV but have a car chassis :D

    souped-up CR-V?

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    before mabago yung excise tax last year, meron ako price list and detailed specification ng honda CR-V na galing talaga sa casa... and one of the specs say "10-seater AUV"

    pero sino maniniwala na naging auv ang category ng CRV? syempre wala hehe.. pang tax break/exempt lang talaga ang 10seater noon..

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    Originally posted by orly_andico
    kind of funny though that the bmw X5, volve xc90 are classified as SUV but have a car chassis :D

    souped-up CR-V?
    These are called Cross-Over Vehicles. Car chasis are used so as to save to building cost.

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    CR-V once had an illustration showing 10 people inside it.hehehe

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    AUV - tipid sa gas
    SUV - HINDE!!!!

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    AUV - 2wd
    SUV - 4wd

    this is the basic difference i see.

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