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    Pansin ko, malaki pinagbago ng price ng mga used SUV kesa cars. Mas mataas nga acquisition cost ng SUVs pero compared sa car na almost kapareho lang ang price nung brand new, malaki difference. Ex. 1998 honda accord is only 350k (only 50k higher than a 1998 civic) while a 1998 crv is 480k. How come SUVs have higher resale values?

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    Its a simple matter of supply & demand. Small SUVs are in demand in the second hand market because the operating cost is almost the same as a large sedan while providing good interior space & comfort.

    As for the difference in 2nd hand large sedans vs compact cars (accords vs civics), there are less people wanting a used large sedan because owning a large sedan often equates of prestige. Prestige cars are usually newer models, not used cars.

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    Andrei,

    It could be market forces and market development. The Philippine market is so enamored with SUVs that resellers/sellers of second-hand SUVs dictate their price. A drop in market desire for SUVs will surely dictate a drop in price.

    Factors of desire by the Filipino market in SUVs are, among others:
    1. Size: the bigger the better. Also since most SUV buyers are male, it exudes the alpha character driving or owning an SUV, machismo being one. In addition, here, the sense of bigness means space--and seats--for the family as well, particularly so when going on out of town trips or vacations.

    2. Sturdiness and rigidity to withstand Philippine road conditions. SUVs are seen as more appropriate for this market: SUVs have higher clearances for floods, suspension and chassis can take ruts and rough roads.

    There could be several more factors but surely Honda CRV strike balance between the two class categories of sedans and sports utility. Definitely, Honda is a market developer introducing CRV, which is an innovative category back then.

    If it were straightforward by the books, a sedan's book life--and as programmed for model change or obsolescence--is only 5 years. An SUV's may be more than 5 years. Note how many 10-yr old SUVs are around than sedans.

    Doing the math, for a 5-yr depreciation a P1M sedan devalues 20% of its brand new price every year. That is P200K per year. While a same-priced brand new SUV, which perhaps at a 6-yr depreciation devalues at a rate of only 1/6 or ~16% its brand new price every year. That would only be ~P166K a year!

    This SUV "value" can be diluted when market forces dictate some change. For instance, if the crossover utility category (SUV, sedan, wagon) of vehicles becomes highly acceptable and proliferates the market (with Innova, the new Adventure launch this year, and other mid-priced Jap, Korean players), brand new prices for SUVs might change (compact to sub-compact) or the playing field can be changed.

    Toyota is good with changing the game. It is gaining success at bringing SUV market play to new planes by introducing the Fortuner as in between two-category vehicles but more inclined toward an SUV than a sedan. Honda CRV is more inclined toward the sedan category.

    Cheers!

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    You can also add the "image factor" - even if the SUV you just got is a 2nd hand unit, you would always look cooler and "mukhang ma-pera" in that over a 2nd hand car. Not unless though, your 2nd hand car has a female name on it, comes from Bavara, has a feline on the hood, has a prancing horse on it's fanny or has raging a bull up-front.

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    Well explained, AlbertB.

    In my personal opinion, think of SUVs as your Maongs. They bare aging much much better than sedans as most full size SUVs change models every ten years compared to sedans who are lucky to get past 4. Yung mga CRV and RAV categories I think average 6 years.

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    simply put... more people would want to own an SUV than a car... hence more demand than supply... so higher prices for SUV's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrei28
    Pansin ko, malaki pinagbago ng price ng mga used SUV kesa cars. Mas mataas nga acquisition cost ng SUVs pero compared sa car na almost kapareho lang ang price nung brand new, malaki difference. Ex. 1998 honda accord is only 350k (only 50k higher than a 1998 civic) while a 1998 crv is 480k. How come SUVs have higher resale values?


    CRV & Rav4 lang naman ata ang may high resale value na compact suv. others like sportage, vitara, terrano bagsak presyo din.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldblue
    CRV & Rav4 lang naman ata ang may high resale value na compact suv. others like sportage, vitara, terrano bagsak presyo din.
    yup, Honda and Toyota generally have very high resale values, pero yung iba hindi rin, especially yung mga American full-sized SUVs, paglabas pa lang sa dealer's lot, half of it's value wala na.

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    I was going to ask that. In my experience, the only SUVs with a high resale value are diesel Japanese 4x4 and the RAV4 and CRV. 4x4 resale value is usually overblown, merely because of the putative tax the government puts on them, thus there is a premium on secondhand 4x4.

    Landcruisers and Patrol 4x4s are crazy expensive secondhand... but remember, they were crazy expensive to begin with.

    Tama yun sa large sedans. There's not much prestige in a secondhand Accord, thus prices are almost the same as a secondhand Civic... which you don't buy for prestige anyway. Plus there's the mindset that the running costs of secondhand midsized sedans are too high... though this is only partially true... compared to secondhand compacts.

    Also, most people who buy secondhand SUVs don't care as much about running costs as those buying secondhand cars. Don't know how long CRV matic prices will hold up, with the rising cost of gas, though... ??? Strange, though, how the halo effect extends to secondhand SUVs that are less desirable... like the gasoline powered Landcruiser (guzzly!) and the CRV AT.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Currently sa US, napakababa ng resale value ng SUVs dahil sa gas prices.

    saka kung mas marami ang Accord kaysa sa Pinas, malamang mas mahal ang resale ng CRV.

    "Law of Diminishing Marginal Utility"

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    i think because they last longer

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    In support of Niky's argument, look at the resale of the Expedition. Mas mura pa sa Gen2.5 Paj in some cases.

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    Depende din iyan sa SUV. But SUV's defy aging better than sedans which are often victims of fashion and were designed to be 'uso' during their time. The '88 Pajero is still handsome today. The '88 Galant does not exude the same appeal (unless maganda restoration).

    Also, when SUV's grow old, they become toys. When cars grow old, most get junked.

    Sa market natin malakas demand for SUV's because of the aforementioned reasons. But never ako nagsisi for getting an SUV. It has served its purpose well and was well worth the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP
    Also, when SUV's grow old, they become toys. When cars grow old, most get junked.
    I was going to agree, then I thought... what about Honda Civic Hatchbacks and Toyota Starlets?... so I was going to object, but then I remembered their resale value... ...so I still agree. :lol:

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    I was going to agree, then I thought... what about Honda Civic Hatchbacks and Toyota Starlets?... so I was going to object, but then I remembered their resale value... ...so I still agree. :lol:

    very true.
    Last edited by oldblue; January 15th, 2006 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    I was going to agree, then I thought... what about Honda Civic Hatchbacks and Toyota Starlets?... so I was going to object, but then I remembered their resale value... ...so I still agree. :lol:
    Haaay. I still regret selling my B16A'd hatch for 200k in 99..... i think i could sell it for even more now hehe.

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    IMO, one simple reason is that SUV's are much bigger and a lot of people can fit in to. its about power and durability.

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    all of the above. plus one other thing, we pinoys are inherently SUV-crazy. i guess this is because of the terrible driving conditions (lubak the size of a tractor tire) and flooding here na in some areas, an SUV becomes a necessity, not a luxury. plus a lot of us like going home to our provinces where a lot of the small roads are not that well paved and the inclines are pretty steep so kelangan din. so mataas talaga demand for them and those that cant afford the brand new ones opt for the second-hand ones. supply and demand.

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    Ford SUV's suffered the same fate as euro cars like volvo and audi. sa sobrang takot ng 2nd hand buyer na baka magastos i-maitain ang mga ganito type of cars. less ang demand so napipilitan ang owners ibagsak ang presyo kung desperate ibenta.

    but I still envy those people driving around with 1st gen expeditions, iba ang trato talaga sa kanila even sa golf course, sa mga bldg. driveways, sa traffic etc ...

    in fact in some weddings White Ford Expeditions are being used as bridal cars hehehe

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    a real suv 4x4 will be priced higher and demand more value in the used car market than any sedan, even if a newer model of the suv came out, it is and will always be a 4x4, that's why there value will always be higher than any used car in the market.

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