"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney

[dprox]

While we are all embroiled with the MVPMAP PhUV, another new kid is arriving on the block.
It's called the e-Jeepney.
All reports and comments on this subject should be posted on this thread, not on the PhUV threads.
Here's the preamble :

Thursday, June 14, 2007
[SIZE="4"]E-jeepney and Jack[/SIZE]
By Michelle P. So
[SIZE="1"]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2007/06/14/oped/michelle.p..so.caught.in.the.net.html[/SIZE]

IN a month or so, a new kind of public jeepney will be plying the streets of Bacolod City. This costs about P380,000 each, is made of fiberglass, seats only 13 including driver and doesn’t need gasoline to run. It’s an e-jeepney.

E-jeepney is an electric-powered jeepney that will debut in the streets of Bacolod, a city where the latest automobile models cruise. If you want to find out what’s new in the auto industry, you’ll find your answer in this city that’s 20 flying minutes from Cebu.

Since it does not run on gasoline or diesel, the e-jeepney is dependent on rechargeable batteries. For it to go an 80- to 100-kilometer trip a day, it needs to be charged for eight hours.

So what happens when the battery is almost drained, does the e-jeepney stop in the middle of the road, or does it warn the driver that it can go only for this distance so he can tell the passengers, “Guys, this is where you get off now. It’s only about two kilometers to your destination anyway and walking will do you good.”?

Green Renewable Independent Power Producer Inc. (GRIPP), the private sector group that is behind the e-jeepney endeavor, wants to test the viability and sustainability of the electric-powered mass transport in Bacolod before it brings the vehicle to other cities, maybe Cebu.

I called up Jack Jakosalem, the Cebu City councilor who seems to have an answer to whatever question I ask him, be it the distance between his house in Maria Luisa and the moon or a behavioral analysis of the mayor. Jack heads the Council committee on transportation, energy, utilities and communication.

Do you think an electric-powered jeepney can work in Cebu, Jack?

He answered: We’re moving towards that direction—using vehicles with hybrid engines, partly gasoline, partly energy. They cause less strain on our environment and our pockets. But so far, it’s still private vehicles, no public transport yet. The private cars running on hybrid engines are expensive.

Later, he texted: With the inventive instinct of the Filipinos and the jeepney being a Filipino concept, I’m sure they will find a way to make the jeepney a cheaper and more maintenance-free mode of public transportation eventually.”

Off the cuff, I think the e-jeepney might be environmentally friendly but it might not be practical for Cebu City where the increasing number of vehicles is aggravating the traffic congestion. If the e-jeepney seats only 12 passengers (I think its Chinese makers have the average Asian size in mind), then it has the size of a multicab. What Cebu needs is a mass transport similar to the KMK buses that accommodate passengers of three to four 12F jeepneys.

There is more to the e-jeep than passenger sizes, fiberglass body and probably a crocheted sign of “God knows Hudas not pay.” It will be powered by electricity that is produced from waste. The e-jeep will be charged by batteries that will be charged at a power plant.

As described in news reports, the power plant consists of a generator, a high solid anaerobic digester and gas engine. Organic refuse will be emptied into the digester where this will be dissolved and converted into gas, which in turn will be pumped into an engine that will now produce the electricity. A physicist or a science teacher, or maybe even Jack, can explain this process better than I do.

When I visit Sun.Star Bacolod next month, I’ll try the e-jeepney, but I’ll be crossing my fingers that I get to my destination before it goes low-batt.


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[niky]

Interesting. With current locally available battery technology, I don't know how well this will work, but it's interesting.

[jundogg]

another good idea when it comes to philippine automotive industry.
big savings on petroleum, but needs a lot of power!

ive seen one like this on tv, i think it's in australia.
battery powered delivery mini-van. more than a dozen of car batteries are used, connected in series, to power up and make the whole vehicle run.

recharge stations along the way, built-in "super-chargers" or solar panels could help. 8 hours of charging might waste a lot of time for the driver to meet his boundary.

[jedi]

I believe that this is also the same e-jeepney na ilalaunch sa makati sa june 22, nakausap ko people from greenpeace and i am waiting for their invitation para tsikot can cover the said event.

sa kwento nila sakin, 2 hours charging nito, good for 6 to 8 hours na sya, dumating na yata sya the other day from china. ang cost daw nito is around 400k. Magkakaroon din ng 1 week public showing ito sa makati.

[drey]

so di ito Pinoy - made?

[jedi]

* drey, yes definitely, di sya pinoy made

[BoEinG_747]

I believe that this is also the same e-jeepney na ilalaunch sa makati sa june 22, nakausap ko people from greenpeace and i am waiting for their invitation para tsikot can cover the said event.

sa kwento nila sakin, 2 hours charging nito, good for 6 to 8 hours na sya, dumating na yata sya the other day from china. ang cost daw nito is around 400k. Magkakaroon din ng 1 week public showing ito sa makati.

correct sir jedi ..nandoon nga mga taga greenpeace..pati si richard gutierrez at georgina wilson( naka green shirts pa) ..nag drive sila ng e-jeepney

[stryke1]

kaya medyo mabuti ding ang naging epekto ng pag taas ng fuel, nabawasan ang mga gumagamit ng sasakyan nila, maybe kung wala nang nagamit ng fuel sa mga sasakyan eh sa palagay ko malaki ang maibabawas sa global warming and pollution sa earth....peace go e-car

[kitsons]

kaya medyo mabuti ding ang naging epekto ng pag taas ng fuel, nabawasan ang mga gumagamit ng sasakyan nila, maybe kung wala nang nagamit ng fuel sa mga sasakyan eh sa palagay ko malaki ang maibabawas sa global warming and pollution sa earth....peace go e-car

Sangayon ako sa punto mo. Unti-unti nang mapuputol ang pagkakahawak sa leeg ng ating economia ng mga oil people... kung madadaliin lang natin ang pag apply ng alternative fuels like brown gas most especially.

[paolorenzo]

e-Jeepneys will now be going around Legaspi and Salcedo Villages...

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquire...illages-routes

[webmiester]

Where can we buy this machine for those who are interested?

I recently went to megamall and found the "e-motion" electric motor bike. Its funny cause they forgot to put their address or phone number on their leaflets, so I really wouldn't know where to get them or refer them to.

[romski123]

Can MVPMAP help save the local auto parts industry?

Last year was an exceptionally good year for the Philippine auto industry. For the first time in the last ten years, total industry sales breached the century mark with total sales of 117,903 units. However, during the last few years, sales from completely-built up units (CBU) have been steadily increasing versus those assembled locally using completely-knocked down (CKD) kits. Last year, CBU importations rose to almost 50% of total industry sales. Imported CBU units have no value-added local parts and labor in them.
As a result, the very small volume of vehicles from CKD kits has also reduced the volume of local auto parts. Consequently, some local parts makers were not able to survive and had to close shop. Those that survived are currently operating at only about 40% of their rated plant capacities.
It is against this backdrop that the Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Phils. (MVPMAP) decided to take some bold initiatives to save the moribund local auto parts making industry. Under the leadership of its new president, Mr. Rafael Villarreal, it has been organizing and supporting its members to survive even engaging the services of Japanese experts to improve quality, productivity and plant management. It also looked for grants to assist members secure not only ISO 9001 and ISO 14000 but even TS 14969 as required by the major car assemblers.
MVPMAP, with the support of the DTI and BOI, has even sent business missions in Hong Kong, Australia, Taiwan and China to explore the possibility of joint ventures with foreign parts suppliers interested in investing in the Philippines.
Then last year, it took the bold decision to design, develop and manufacture the Philippine Utility Vehicle (PhUV). It is an AUV-based vehicle that was designed with the small and medium entrepreneurs in mind. Since the PhUV also has a high percentage of value-added local labor and parts in it, it was aimed at revitalizing the local parts making industry.
MVPMAP, despite its very limited resources, went into the PhUV Program to prove that given the chance and the resources, the Pinoy engineers can design, develop and manufacture a truly Pinoy vehicle. This is something most of the Philippines' ASEAN neighbors have done with much success.
It is in realization of this achievement that the Board of Investments has included the Philippine Utility Vehicle Program in the 2007 Investments Priority Program. Under the 2007 IPP, assemblers and parts suppliers of the PhUV Program were granted a package of incentives, including income tax holidays and duty-free importation of raw materials.
Today, MVPMAP is proud to announce that the PhUV has evolved into the e-PhUV, an electric jeepney that will not rely on fossil fuel for power. There is a ready market for these electric vehicles as MVPMAP has partnered with the Green Renewable Independent Power Producers (GRIPP) in its Climate Friendly Cities Program.
GRIPP, which counts among its members Greenpeace International, has secured foreign funding for some 50 units of the electric jeepneys for distribution among the LGUs as a component of its program. As of today, it has already brought in from China two electric jeepneys in Makati City and four in Bacolod City. MVPMAP on the other hand has decided to design and develop a truly Pinoy jeepney reminiscent of what has long been a Pinoy icon.
The e-PhUV might just be the hope that the local parts makers have long been waiting for so they can get back to their past production volumes and secure the jobs for the over 44,000 Filipinos dependent on the industry.

[dprox]

Where can we buy this machine for those who are interested?

I recently went to megamall and found the "e-motion" electric motor bike. Its funny cause they forgot to put their address or phone number on their leaflets, so I really wouldn't know where to get them or refer them to.

PM mo si monmendoza. Baka alam niya.

[niky]

Any word on official pricing yet?

[ghosthunter]

Pencil pushing time:

GIVENS:

E-jeepney cost = P625,000
battery pack cost = 1/4 of vehicle cost = P156,250
charging time = 8 hours
charging life = 500 cycles
distance per charge = 65 km (120km maximum)
claimed operating time on a single charge = 6 to 8 hours
cost per full charge = P158
maximum speed = 40 kph

diesel jeepney = P700K to P800K

Typical jeepney operating average speed = 5 to 6 kph

Pricing sources:
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...90310top7.html
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=29

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So the battery pack only last 500 cycles = 1.37 years.

Given the battery pack costs = P156,250.00

Computing average monthly cost = P9,504/month

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And that is on top of the daily power cost of P158 = P4,740/month

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So that is equivalent to a monthly overhead cost of = P14,244/month

Pushing that to annual cost = P14,244 x 12 months
= P170,928/year (the cost to operate the e-jeepney)

* note: this assumes no tires need replacing nor any other parts as well.

[ghosthunter]

Pencil pushing time:

GIVENS:

E-jeepney cost = P625,000
battery pack cost = 1/4 of vehicle cost = P156,250
charging time = 8 hours
charging life = 500 cycles
distance per charge = 65 km (120km maximum)
claimed operating time on a single charge = 6 to 8 hours
cost per full charge = P158
maximum speed = 40 kph

diesel jeepney = P700K to P800K

Typical jeepney operating average speed = 5 to 6 kph

Pricing sources:
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...90310top7.html
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=29

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So the battery pack only last 500 cycles = 1.37 years.

I find it amazing that in all the articles posted about the e-jeepney, the simply fact that the battery can only be recharged 500 times before replacement was forgotten or "overlooked" or simply ignored.

Whatever the reason, it means the e-jeepney must have it's batteries replaced every 1.5 years if it's to operate at all.

Another amazing fact that was so difficult to find anywhere was the cost of the batteries. Many people asked but somehow that question was never answered or even acknowledged. Anyway, it will be "interesting" day in the least to see how the current operators will handle the fact that they have to shell out PHP 156,000 for a new battery pack in a few more months.

[jpdm]

A e-jeepney from PHUV, Inc. of Romski123

with a Sarao jeepney

[hein]

A e-jeepney from PHUV, Inc. of Romski123 with a Sarao jeepney

MR. UGLY and MR. UGLIER. 1940'S Design in the 21st Century

In this Digital Age, you will have a hard time selling these DINOSAURS.

[MaxAJ]

MR. UGLY and MR. UGLIER. 1940'S Design in the 21st Century

In this Digital Age, you will have a hard time selling these DINOSAURS.

I agree with you but in a more constructive criticism side.
Sarao should change the body model into a more updated and or contemporary design

[romski123]

MR. UGLY and MR. UGLIER. 1940'S Design in the 21st Century

In this Digital Age, you will have a hard time selling these DINOSAURS.

We actually customize. and the design came from DLSU