Michel Gitano Pinoymade HYBRID sports car

[markdennis]

If you're a true Pinoy Petrolhead, you will definitely appreciate and celebrate today's event - the launch of Michel Motors' Gitano. Not only is this this Michel's first foray into designing and building its own cars (Michel is perhaps the foremost kit car maker in the Philippines), it is most likely the most ambitious attempt at building a Philippine-made sports car. It also has the distinction of being the first ever Philippine-made hybrid sports car.

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Pinoy Petrolheads: Introducing the Michel Gitano

[ghosthunter]

The news might be a bit premature given the prototype car is not even complete and no price nor schedule of availability has been announced.

I would prefer to wait until we can have a finished car to poke our collective heads in and around before giving any sort of label to this beyond as a turn-key "kit" car.

[uls]

the thing isnt even running yet

pinoy talaga

nauuna lagi ang hype and press release

remember all the hype and press release re PhUV?

[uls]

this thread should be in this section:

Tsikot Auto Design and Research Forum - Tsikot Philippines 2011

[ghosthunter]

Why is it called a HYBIRD when it's powered by an electric motor?

[ghosthunter]

this thread should be in this section:

Tsikot Auto Design and Research Forum - Tsikot Philippines 2011

Nope. It belongs in the "PHILIPPINE CARS" subforum....

[uls]

Nope. It belongs in the "PHILIPPINE CARS" subforum....

yeah

along with owner type jeeps

hehe

[first_light]

GMANews.TV - 24oras: Electric sports car na gawang Pinoy - Latest Philippine News

hmmm...Sana naman dito na lang sa Pinas ang masspro nito at di sa Europe para di sabihin na Made in Europe.

[kulotzky]

Here's my 10 cents:

Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

If the car is really good as I heard and watched from GMA 7, then there is a BIG POTENTIAL. Michel Gitano can ask support from the government and Pres. Pnoy.

Ano sa palagay n'yo?

[niwde11]

Here's my 10 cents:

Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

If the car is really good as I heard and watched from GMA 7, then there is a BIG POTENTIAL. Michel Gitano can ask support from the government and Pres. Pnoy.

Ano sa palagay n'yo?

Private sector support is much better. govt intervention is not good based on their history.

[uls]

let's all look forward to their first 1,000 units

... ok.... first 500

[niky]

Here's my 10 cents:

Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

If the car is really good as I heard and watched from GMA 7, then there is a BIG POTENTIAL. Michel Gitano can ask support from the government and Pres. Pnoy.

Ano sa palagay n'yo?

The kind of hardware required for even a low-performance all-electric that can do highway speeds (around 100 km/h) and get at least 60 kilometers of range is nearly a million pesos (last I heard the "economy" conversion packs for street cars in this range is about $15k in the US... that's the cost of a brand new Honda Jazz 1.5 over there).

If we want electric taxis that can keep up with EDSA traffic, the best we can do is use one of those conversion kits, buy secondhand taxis to convert (at about 150k), add new suspension parts, tires, beefier brakes, new paint... refresh the interior... You can have an electric tax for just 1.1 or 1.2 million bucks. If you want it with brand-new bodies, you'll need about 1.5m so you can buy Chinese bodies to stuff the electric drive into.

If you want an electric sports car with US hardware? I estimate about 2m-3m or so for a glass-bodied two seater...

Of course they'll have to build it overseas. Build it where your market is to keep the price down. The local market is only big enough for maybe a dozen sales a year at most. That's not enough to make it economical to build here.

[ghosthunter]

Here's my 10 cents:

Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

If the car is really good as I heard and watched from GMA 7, then there is a BIG POTENTIAL. Michel Gitano can ask support from the government and Pres. Pnoy.

Ano sa palagay n'yo?

Filipinos are just too conservative when choosing to buy a new car. Given electric cars are still to prove itself here and abroad as a practical transport, the GT111 will not be a seller.

One issue is the cost of the FINISHED car. Pinoys will expect it to match the fit and finish of cars from japanese and korean brand cars.

Another issue is the cost of production. It would be doubtful that it would sell more than a few hundred units annually even if it's a success. At that level, it will be literally be hand-made which will make it very expensive. Automated production line would be too expensive to invest into. Handmade parts = non-standard parts = bad quality control.

[uls]

Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari.

what is there to steal?

meron ba pinoy-originated patentable technology sa car na yan?

it's gonna use foreign powertrain/drivetrain

ano technology pwede nakawin sa car na yan? yung design ng body? yung abaca dashboard?

Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas.

if it will be mass produced here it won't be cheap

ask them how much the prototype cost to build

cost palang yan

then yung profit margin pa pag gagawa sila pambenta

[uls]

It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world.

hey we already got Manny Pacquiao

and that beauty queen

Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars.

wow

easy lang

Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

taxi operators will buy that car? oooookaaaaay

Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

ever seen an electric car here?

nakakita ako ng Prius sa kalye. 2 times palang sa buong buhay ko

[Phoenix67]

Its marketing dude

[CoDer]

Ok lang kahit di successful tong project na to, basta tuloy-tuloy lang sa pag design. At least may nagagawa kahit papano, kesa naman panay putak na lang.

[Ry_Tower]

Ok lang kahit di successful tong project na to, basta tuloy-tuloy lang sa pag design. At least may nagagawa kahit papano, kesa naman panay putak na lang.

Kaso nga bro dapat tapos na design, actual (as in real world condition) testing na at may plans na for production.

Gawin nila yan at I'm sure may mag-iinvest. Pero until then, sayang kasi yung pinaghirapan kung ma-mothball din lang pala.

just my 2 cents

[niky]

The past two years have not been kind to electric start-ups. The US economy is still stalled, Europe is collapsing and China has more electric start-ups than you can shake a stick at... not that Chinese buyers will actually buy anything that isn't a BMW or a Buick.

Since the plans for production were centered on a facility in the UK, there really won't be much news on that front for quite a while. I'm still working on a schedule to see the car or to interview the engineering team.

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