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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    You should know me better than that. I never fabricate facts, especially figures.

    Your e-jeepneys can only climb slopes & inclines of only 20%.

    Example info source 1:
    http://www.enterprise.ph/Default.asp...S,427,B3,B3-18

    Example info source 2: (JPDM posts the info himself)
    http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=44290292



    [SIZE=3]A little math... converting 20% = 11.3 degrees of incline.[/SIZE]

    So the e-jeepney can only climb slopes of less than 12 degrees.

    The only reason why the e-jeepney can be used in Makati is because the routes are nearly completely flat and level.

    so sir gh, ang e jeepney hindi makakaakyat ng MOA N/S parking or kahit anung super incline na parking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aejhayl17 View Post
    so sir gh, ang e jeepney hindi makakaakyat ng MOA N/S parking or kahit anung super incline na parking?
    Here is the difference.

    Technically the e-jeepney should be able to climb higher angles than 12 degrees incline but the vehicle should be unloaded of it's passengers to do it. So in that sense, the e-jeepney fails to accomplish it's primary purpose of transporting passengers if it has to unload some or all passengers every time it meets an incline of 12 degrees or more.

    The solution for this problem would have been simple. Add a transmission so to give the existing motor more torque for steeper streets. But of course it would increase the costs of an already over-hyped and hard-to-sell re-purposed extended golf-cart.

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    #683
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    You should know me better than that. I never fabricate facts, especially figures.

    Your e-jeepneys can only climb slopes & inclines of only 20%.
    funny. You criticize the press but its all the resource that you depend upon. You don't even bother to investigate the actual units in Makati.

    The units can take a lot more than 20% inclines my dear ghosthunter.

    Your credibility is seriously in question here. You make a lot of accusations yet you depend on 2nd hand or even 3rd hand data. For shame GH.

    [SIZE=3]
    A little math... converting 20% = 11.3 degrees of incline.
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    So the e-jeepney can only climb slopes of less than 12 degrees.

    The only reason why the e-jeepney can be used in Makati is because the routes are nearly completely flat and level.
    o may mga computations ka pa. Are you pretending that you even know what you are talking about? Have you even riden an actual electric vehicel? You sound like a nerd whose all theory and no practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Here is the difference.

    Technically the e-jeepney should be able to climb higher angles than 12 degrees incline but the vehicle should be unloaded of it's passengers to do it. So in that sense, the e-jeepney fails to accomplish it's primary purpose of transporting passengers if it has to unload some or all passengers every time it meets an incline of 12 degrees or more.

    The solution for this problem would have been simple. Add a transmission so to give the existing motor more torque for steeper streets. But of course it would increase the costs of an already over-hyped and hard-to-sell re-purposed extended golf-cart.
    o nag iimbento nanaman si gh.

    Tama na gh. Don't pretend to be an expert on anything. Even your knowledge in autolpgs are questionable, Ilan lang ba ang nagawa mo?

    hard to sell ba? why is it that we have sold more than your lpg conversions?

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    philippine market:

    no. of auto lpg vs no. of electric cars(ejeepney)

    ilan na nga ba? anu nga ba ang mas napapakinabangan? which is more profitable or self sustaining? can someone provide some digits?

    magandang tanong to ah.

    but, does population declares more success regarding public transport for both the auto-lpg and ejeepney? how about the private sector?

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    philippine market:

    no. of auto lpg vs no. of electric cars(ejeepney)

    ilan na nga ba? anu nga ba ang mas napapakinabangan? which is more profitable or self sustaining? can someone provide some digits?

    magandang tanong to ah.

    but, does population declares more success regarding public transport for both the auto-lpg and ejeepney? how about the private sector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by romski123 View Post
    funny. You criticize the press but its all the resource that you depend upon. You don't even bother to investigate the actual units in Makati.

    The units can take a lot more than 20% inclines my dear ghosthunter.
    The published specifications seems to contradict your statement.

    http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...g004BeMail.jpg


    LOL! ... Taken from your own photobucket account, no less.


    Your credibility is seriously in question here. You make a lot of accusations yet you depend on 2nd hand or even 3rd hand data. For shame GH.
    Credibility about who is in question? JPDM posted the same information so is he pulling out numbers from thin air or ignorant of the actual specs of the e-jeepney? Your own posted sales brochure collaborates the slope limitations.


    o may mga computations ka pa. Are you pretending that you even know what you are talking about?
    Yes I know what I am talking about. I am educated as a mechanical engineer.

    I have yet to see you post numbers and figures to counter the numbers I have posted.


    Have you even riden an actual electric vehicel?

    Does electric golf carts count? Like the ones used in Cubao and SM MOA?

    Although for some reason SM have later replaced the electric "trams" to ones which are powered by an internal combustion engine. I guess "Henry Sy" of SM knows that electric powered golf carts aren't practical as public transport.


    You sound like a nerd whose all theory and no practice.
    Nerds rule the world! I have designed and built a few robots (electric and pneumatic systems) and even a couple of small cars from scratch in my college days. I know my way around the machine shop and experienced as an electric arc and acetylene welder as well.


    FYI, your insults are falling a little short. LOL!
    Last edited by ghosthunter; March 26th, 2010 at 02:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aejhayl17 View Post
    philippine market:

    no. of auto lpg vs no. of electric cars(ejeepney)

    ilan na nga ba? anu nga ba ang mas napapakinabangan? which is more profitable or self sustaining? can someone provide some digits?

    magandang tanong to ah.

    but, does population declares more success regarding public transport for both the auto-lpg and ejeepney? how about the private sector?
    Among Tsikot.com members alone, there are over 60 Auto-LPG users/vehicles listed in the "Auto-LPG Roll-call" thread.

    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1343331

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    From my latest info I got, there are less than 20 e-jeeps in the Makati route and Makati plans to field a maximum of 50 units (if makati planning pushes through).
    Last edited by ghosthunter; March 26th, 2010 at 02:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Among Tsikot.com members alone, there are over 60 Auto-LPG users/vehicles listed in the "Auto-LPG Roll-call" thread.

    http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1343331

    From my latest info I got, there are less than 20 e-jeeps in the Makati route and Makati plans to field a maximum of 50 units.
    e paano sir gh kung over-all? as in all-over the RP?

    auto lpg equipt vs ejeepney

    battle of the alternatives

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    Quote Originally Posted by aejhayl17 View Post
    e paano sir gh kung over-all? as in all-over the RP?

    auto lpg equipt vs ejeepney

    battle of the alternatives
    Info is a bit old: (2009/04/03)

    taken from:
    http://pia.gov.ph/?m=12&r=R11&y=07&m...0403.htm&no=99

    ... 13,886 converted vehicles running on LPG.

"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney