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  1. Join Date
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    guys and gals what do you think? ano basically ginagawa ng air intake? dami ko kasi nakikita na may ganun eh. advantages and disadvantages?

    how much would it cost me if i want one to be installed?

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    Di ba lahat ng kotse may air intake? maybe ur referring to a simota or K&N air filter, performance filter yata tawag sa mga ganyan. mas maganda yata magiging oerformance ng engine mo kapag ganyan ang intake mo tsaka dagdag porma rin :D

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    ayun pala yun, that's what i'm referring to.. yeah.. that's what i've heard.
    any ideas if it's really worth it if i had my system installed with CAI?

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    Negligible ang performance gain. Sayang on the stock SOHC 4G92. Naglagay na rin ako ng Simota sa GSR at Sebring na exhaust. Maganda lang ang tunog pero pareho rin halos ang takbo. Maganda lang din tingnan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing
    Negligible ang performance gain. Sayang on the stock SOHC 4G92. Naglagay na rin ako ng Simota sa GSR at Sebring na exhaust. Maganda lang ang tunog pero pareho rin halos ang takbo. Maganda lang din tingnan.
    SIMOTA na CAI system? oh ok.. so hindi ganun ka ramdam yung improvement?
    pero aethetically ok sya right? How about the sound? Hindi naman scandalous? hehe! Thanks for the input bro.

    How much did it cost you to install your CAI system and Sebring exhaust on your gsr?

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    2-3hp gain if it's just a filter head, and that's K&N or HKS, maybe 2hp or less for a Simota. That gain is also dependent on temperature... in hot weather, traffic or after a long drive, hp losses start to creep in. Needless to say, heat shielding is a necessity. A CAI may give you 5 or more hp, but pose the danger of hydrolock in wet weather and requires a bypass valve to avoid this.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    2-3hp gain if it's just a filter head, and that's K&N or HKS, maybe 2hp or less for a Simota. That gain is also dependent on temperature... in hot weather, traffic or after a long drive, hp losses start to creep in. Needless to say, heat shielding is a necessity. A CAI may give you 5 or more hp, but pose the danger of hydrolock in wet weather and requires a bypass valve to avoid this.
    Bro if we're talking about filter head eto yung pinapalitan or nililinis pag service sa kasa right? Is this the air element they are referring to?

    So pwede hindi na ako mag pa install ng CAI instead mag palit na lang ako ng AIR Filter?

    When does hydrolock occur? so may risk din pag nag pa install ako ng CAI?

    Thanks bro for the input,

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    Oh yeah, no hp loss due to heat with a CAI... it's this heat soak that kills most of the hp gain of simple in-bay performance filter installs.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    Oh yeah, no hp loss due to heat with a CAI... it's this heat soak that kills most of the hp gain of simple in-bay performance filter installs.
    ah ok.. nice.. so mas ok talaga mag pa install ng CAI vs. replace air filters lang?

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    turbo ka na lang bro, or engine swap :D best results EVER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by al_motor
    turbo ka na lang bro, or engine swap :D best results EVER!
    eto ba yung intercooler turbo na sinasabi nila? how does this work? and how much basically aabutin? thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nautilus
    eto ba yung intercooler turbo na sinasabi nila? how does this work? and how much basically aabutin? thanks!
    yep. significantly more expensive though. ~80t ang cost. pero the effects are rather more profound than an aftermarket air intake. at least 30% increase in power guaranteed.

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    Walang CAI na Simota. Yung sinasabi ni wildthing filter and tube lang. Hydrolock occurs when you run through water at speed and the CAI ingests it. If it's little water, the engine can burn it... if it's a lot, it will damage the engine. That's why most CAIs have a bypass valve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky
    Walang CAI na Simota. Yung sinasabi ni wildthing filter and tube lang. Hydrolock occurs when you run through water at speed and the CAI ingests it. If it's little water, the engine can burn it... if it's a lot, it will damage the engine. That's why most CAIs have a bypass valve.
    ah.. retain pa din yung yung air intake system ko right? ang maiiba lang is yung papalitan yung air filter na OEM and yung tubing? tama po ba?

    may mararamdaman ba ako na difference when I change my filter to simota?
    san ba nakakabili ng mga racing filters for my car like simota's, k&n etc..

    thanks!

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    Fusion R can make custom CAIs for your vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    Fusion R can make custom CAIs for your vehicle.
    any specific shop that can do this? how much kaya would it take?
    thanks man.

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    Yep, air filter lang ang Simota. Air Intake kasi ang tanong mo. At yung Sebring exhaust minana ko lang yun sa isang kotse namin, ewan ko kung magkano. Hindi sya maingay at low revs. Parang low grumble lang. Hanapin mo yung mga JASMA spec ganon daw ang tunog.

    Pero for performance, engine swap na yan to MIVEC 4G92.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing
    Yep, air filter lang ang Simota. Air Intake kasi ang tanong mo. At yung Sebring exhaust minana ko lang yun sa isang kotse namin, ewan ko kung magkano. Hindi sya maingay at low revs. Parang low grumble lang. Hanapin mo yung mga JASMA spec ganon daw ang tunog.

    Pero for performance, engine swap na yan to MIVEC 4G92.
    kung mag palit ako ng filters into simota or k&n's ok na rin di ba? kesa mag CAI pa ako? san ba pwede buy ng mga racing filters?
    dude pag nag palit ba ako into CAI mas iingay ang car ko?

    san ba pwede pa swap ng engine?

    thanks!

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    #19
    The air intake basically lets the engine "breathe". Performance filters and CAIs make it "breathe" better by allowing more air, or colder air (hence Cold Air Intake) without necessarily letting more dust in. (Kaya may filter pa rin.)

    Sa tanong na "iingay ba"? Konti lang. Negligible lalo na kung naka-on ang stereo. Mas malaki ang epekto ng muffler sa tunog.

    Ang mahalagang tanong e ano bang plano mo? Aesthetics or performance or both? Anong goal mo at anong budget mo? Ang mga sagot dito ang makatutulong sa yo sa iyong mga desisyon para sa kotse mo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_wildthing
    The air intake basically lets the engine "breathe". Performance filters and CAIs make it "breathe" better by allowing more air, or colder air (hence Cold Air Intake) without necessarily letting more dust in. (Kaya may filter pa rin.)

    Sa tanong na "iingay ba"? Konti lang. Negligible lalo na kung naka-on ang stereo. Mas malaki ang epekto ng muffler sa tunog.

    Ang mahalagang tanong e ano bang plano mo? Aesthetics or performance or both? Anong goal mo at anong budget mo? Ang mga sagot dito ang makatutulong sa yo sa iyong mga desisyon para sa kotse mo.
    anong difference ng CAI bro sa hindi CAI pero mag papalit ka ng filter like K&N's and Simota's etc?

    Bakit Cold Air Intake ang tawag?
    Ano naman tawag dun sa pag papalit ng air filters from oem to racing filters?
    eto ba yung WAI?

    aesthtically and performance talaga ang hanap ko eh.. budget does'nt matter, (yung tama lang ah) as long as ang gain is worth the money i'll spend.

    Thanks pare sa input, i hope you could help me out more. Thanks!

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