Plug (pasak) then Patch (tapal) on tire?

[dr. d]

Napansin nyo rin pala...

I dropped a hint in my post yesterday, kaya nga napa "Wow" na lang ako at the end
Isip ko lang, ang tiyaga ng mga regulars dito

On the bright side though, yung info being shared is interesting & useful naman din.

it's holiday season.
i have time to burn.

[dr. d]

Ah, you said it Doc.
Not just lamp posts, other hazards I've come across included an old sign post na putol na (nilagare... ninakaw and sold by the kilo pehaps) Didn't hit the tire, but scratched the left fender/bumper.

Hindi mo pa makita yung mga yan! Out of your field of vision below the hood (mababa eh).

folks sometimes chide me for avoiding puddles of water when driving.
"is your car afraid of a little water?"

my reply,
"i am not afraid of water, IF that is all there is. but you see, water collects there because the surface there is lower than the surrounding. and if water collects there, so do nails, screws, and other objects that can puncture my tyre." this is especially true of the deeper puddles.

[uls]

i stay away far enough,
para hindi ma-anggihan ng kalawang or langis.

if i trust the guy naman,
dun na lang ako sa proferred upuan. mas ok kung may dumaang taho-man.

car ownership is indeed a unique experience.

sa banawe i'd be watching 2 to 3 feet away from start to finish

tinutulungan ko pa (ako ung customer na nadudumihan ang kamay haha)

minememorize ko lahat ng piesa na kinalas nila... every bolt, nut, washer... and watch them install all the new parts and make sure hinigpitan nila lahat ng tornilyo hehe

then i'll gather all my old parts and put them in the boxes where the new parts came from

[dr. d]

sa banawe i'd be watching 2 to 3 feet away from start to finish

tinutulungan ko pa (ako ung customer na nadudumihan ang kamay haha)

minememorize ko lahat ng piesa na kinalas nila... every bolt, nut, washer... and watch them install all the new parts and make sure hinigpitan nila lahat ng tornilyo hehe

then i'll gather all my old parts and put them in the boxes where the new parts came from

wise move.
kasi naman, if the mekaniko notices that we just fell off the turnip truck,
we might end up with the old parts... cleaned up a bit, then... re-installed!
heh heh.

also, having them old parts around, you have a stash of emergency parts, for justin...

errr,
what do you do with the old parts?

we (dad) used to bring home the old parts.
one day, we noticed that were were tripping over them already, in the workshop at home.
nag-tawag si dad ng magbobote...

[uls]

wise move.
kasi naman, if the mekaniko notices that we just fell off the turnip truck,
we might end up with the old parts... cleaned up a bit, then... re-installed!
heh heh.

errr,
what do you do with the old parts?

we (dad) used to bring home the old parts.
one day, we noticed that were were tripping over them already, in the workshop at home.
nag-tawag si dad ng magbobote...

i bring home the old parts hehe

[jut703]

This is a surprisingly long discussion for a very simple topic.

I get my vulcanizing done at Goodyear Servitek near my place. 400 pesos with a decent tire changer and good mechanics. They use your typical patches.

Have tracked my car several times with patched tires, also countless roadtrips.

If you don’t feel confident with the repair of the tire, change it. Simple as that.


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[Miles_on]

sa banawe i'd be watching 2 to 3 feet away from start to finish

tinutulungan ko pa (ako ung customer na nadudumihan ang kamay haha)

minememorize ko lahat ng piesa na kinalas nila... every bolt, nut, washer... and watch them install all the new parts and make sure hinigpitan nila lahat ng tornilyo hehe

then i'll gather all my old parts and put them in the boxes where the new parts came from

Same here. Watched like a hawk, and fiddling din with the removed parts like "Didi" in "Dexter's Lab":

"What does this do? What happens if we do... this? Oooooh..."

In the rare times kami magpagawa sa casa, I never go to the ones na (absolutely) prohibited yung access sa service bays. Di rin ako pumapayag dalhin sa taas para gawin, even if I have to wait longer for the service bays downstairs to free up.

[k_leos]

If you will read this. Both the pasak (plug) and tapal (patch) methods are incorrect.




The RIGHT and WRONG way to repair a punctured tyre. >> Dexel Blog

My honda and toyota has dozens of patches done over decades but the holes were mostly from nails. So the rusts may be minimal.

But what if the holes were bigger and one put oil in the plugs?

Or what if the vehicles were used to the limits? That's when the bad repair can cause harm diba.

What if the following accidents that killed 5 people from a blown tire was caused by a bad plug repair?

OPINION: Who’s to Blame for the Tire Blowout at NLEX? - Bridgestone Tires PH

I was searching for the discussions in Power Wheels facebook and couldn't find it. Do you know nasaan discussions nila kasi I wanted to see their bad repair theories.

It asked "With the driver arrested and awaiting charges, and the NLEX traffic back to normal, this case seems to be over and forgotten. But it shouldn’t be. All the angles leading to the crash should be and must be investigated. Those persons who are guilty of negligence leading to the crash should be held liable. One question should be answered first: Why did the tire blow out?"

Who knows. Maybe from bad plug or patch repair?

Hope we can have legislations where only combination plug and patch will be allowed. This is true in other countries. It can save lives.

Just share with me saan meron mabili mushroom patch locally na readily available and anong service center marunong mag gamit nito with sealant pa around the mushroom head (as the earlier youtube video shared showed). So ma try ko nito. If mukha not well done. Then bili just one new tire as suggested by dr. d, 7k na asked ko pinaka mura sa banawe. Btw.. is there by chance meron ba fake na Yokohama tyres?

Happy New Year everyone. Thanks for the tips.

[dr. d]

there is a maximum puncture diameter, beyond which the tyre is unsafe for repair by patch.
when the tyre man says so, i follow his advise.
none of my cold patches have failed, yet.

sidewall punctures... by my experience, they're not typically 'round and small'. mine have been gaping wounds.
unsafe for repair.
"too much flexing" for any repair to hold.

[Miles_on]

But it shouldn’t be. All the angles leading to the crash should be and must be investigated. Those persons who are guilty of negligence leading to the crash should be held liable.

I came across a minor fender bender outside Hiroshima Airport a few years back.

When I came out of the terminal, the Japanese authorities were meticulously documenting everything- measuring distances, looking around for skid marks, etc.

Dito sa `tin:

"O, piktyuran nyo, mey camera naman mga celpun nyo di ba? O, tapos na? Sige, itabi nyo na't dun kayo magusap. Nagtratrapik eh."

Pffftt... Pilipinas kong mahaaaaal...