oil and fuel on your adventure

[jamyrlan]

guys, share naman your engine oil and and your diesel used(shell, caltex, petron) and your experiences. my mileage increased when i shifted from shell to petron...

[arvic]

i used turbo xp fully synthetic oil by mitsubishi and for fuel simula binili yung adventure shell lng tlga sya... ok nman sa shell may peace of mind kc me pag shell sigurado malinis yung diesel...

[x2pher]

mobil delvac fully synthetic highly recommended

[RafRaf]

guys, share naman your engine oil and and your diesel used(shell, caltex, petron) and your experiences. my mileage increased when i shifted from shell to petron...

dati shell pero ngayon petron... kasi mas mura. pero pansin ko lang na parang masmalakas hatak ng shell. anyway, i also dagdag seaoil biodiesel once in a while... 1%-5% mix - for cleaner emissions (just had my registration done and I am very happy with my smoke emission results, one session lang pasado na agad).

[Bogeyman]

Ever since I got my unit, Petron Diesel Max ang fuel ko. Sa oil naman, dati Turbo XP yung nilalagay ng casa. Pero pagdating ng 15k PMS ko, nag-decide ako na sa labas na lang ipalagay yung langis para mas mura (Arclight sa Shell Quezon Ave.). Pansin ko na medyo mas gusto ko yung andar nung naka-Turbo XP pa ako, pero okay na din yung Shell Helix Diesel. Sabagay, yun din yung advice ng mismong kapitbahay naming taga-Mitsu; pwede na ang mineral over synthetic. Basta follow religiously lang ang oil change every 5,000 kms.

OT: Kakatapos nga lang ng 20k PMS ko kahapon. Nakakatawa kasi pinresyuhan ako kahapon ng 1,400 sa Shell for oil change. Biniro ko lang yung technician, "ang mahal naman! Dala ko pa yung dati kong resibo, o!" Eh P1,216 lang yung nakasulat dun nung huling oil change ko last March. Tinignan niya tapos sabi sa akin, "sige sir, pwede na sa dating price." Sinabay ko na yung palit ng air cleaner tsaka fuel filter since dala ko naman yung mga parts. Umabot lang sa P1,250 lahat-lahat, tip na lang ako. Tapos diretso na sa Diamond Motors Quezon Ave. para sa heavy check-up, cost me P3,315. May nakasabay pa ako kahapon sa Shell na isang Adventure owner din, mukhang nagpa-oil change din tsaka palit ng air filter sa '99 Adventure GLS niya. Hindi ko man lang naitanong kung member siya ng MAC. Pati sa casa kahapon, andaming Adventure units na nakapila sa maintenance bay. Kung meron sa inyong nagpa-PMS kahapon sa Diamond, baka nagkasalubong tayo. :D

[RafRaf]

Sinabay ko na yung palit ng air cleaner tsaka fuel filter since dala ko naman yung mga parts. Umabot lang sa P1,250 lahat-lahat, tip na lang ako. Tapos diretso na sa Diamond Motors Quezon :D

Sir Joseph, P1250 lahat pati yung helix, fuel and air filter? Tapos dun sa heavy checkup sa casa, bale service lang yung binayaran mo?

[ILuvDetailing]

Sa Adventure ko dati, sinubukan ko yung Mobil1 Super Syn 5w50. Pinapakarga ko palagi Unleaded, either Shell, Caltex o Petron basta kung san mura dun ako. Ang hirap lang tangalin Spark Plug ng Adventure, daming pa dapat tanggalin.

[jvdejesus05]

Sa Adventure ko dati, sinubukan ko yung Mobil1 Super Syn 5w50. Pinapakarga ko palagi Unleaded, either Shell, Caltex o Petron basta kung san mura dun ako. Ang hirap lang tangalin Spark Plug ng Adventure, daming pa dapat tanggalin.

sir if you don't mind me asking, kamusta naman po yung takbo ng sasakyan when you changed it mobil1? i plan to use this oil kasi on my next oil change.

[ILuvDetailing]

sir if you don't mind me asking, kamusta naman po yung takbo ng sasakyan when you changed it mobil1? i plan to use this oil kasi on my next oil change.

Honestly, walang masyadong difference, altho umabot ako once ng 8km/li pero thats just driving conditions playing a big part. Its just added peace of mind knowing that your using a fully synthetic oil in your engine. If you don't mind the price then go for it, but if your on a budget, stick to mineral and change every 5K kms.

[jvdejesus05]

Honestly, walang masyadong difference, altho umabot ako once ng 8km/li pero thats just driving conditions playing a big part. Its just added peace of mind knowing that your using a fully synthetic oil in your engine. If you don't mind the price then go for it, but if your on a budget, stick to mineral and change every 5K kms.

i usually use synthetic oil that's why when i heard about mobil1 here at tsikot i tried to research on it. thanks po sir...

one last question sir, how much is it in the market? per liter po ba availability nito? lastly, san po may makikita nito? tnx again.

[Dieseler]

In my experience, regarding diesel fuel:
New Oil Players: A bit unreliable with regards to quality. Minsan may duda ako na may halo ang diesel, either with water or kerosine.

Caltex: Malakas ang hatak compared to the others, but pinakamausok.

Shell: Tama lang, just in the middle. Tama lang ang hatak, at not mausok.

Petron: Cleanest of the three, but at the expense of hatak.

[AlbertB]

In my experience, regarding diesel fuel:
New Oil Players: A bit unreliable with regards to quality. Minsan may duda ako na may halo ang diesel, either with water or kerosine.

Caltex: Malakas ang hatak compared to the others, but pinakamausok.

Shell: Tama lang, just in the middle. Tama lang ang hatak, at not mausok.

Petron: Cleanest of the three, but at the expense of hatak.

Hi Dieseler and others in this thread,

Johnny-come-lately ako to this thread but I like to share the same observation Dieseler has.

I find Shell lubes and fuel right in quality so I use Helix Diesel for oil. For fuel, Shell Diesoline. With Helix Diesel, the engine is silky smooth with a pleasant whine of the engine parts. Diesoline's pull is great in all RPM ranges. I get ~12km/liter, combined city and highway driving on a light load.

Every now and then I experiment with fuel additives. Here are my observations when using specific brands/type:

Bravo: Engine vibration decreases and smoke is reduced. But for short trips, (about 3 to 5 kms lang) I noticed though that hitting optimum engine temperature takes longer. Power output or pull increases at the low RPM range.
(price to mixture ratio: ~P1.00:liter)

STP: Same as Bravo but hit optimum engine temperature faster than with Bravo or Biodiesel. Engine combustion sound is almost inaudible and feel is more smooth. No perceived increase in pull in any RPM range. Same with just plain Diesoline.
(price to mixture ratio: ~P2.00:liter)

Increase in fuel efficiency in both these additives is not remarkable.

Biodiesel: I read somewhere, in one of the threads in MAC, biodiesel's performance and recently had a tankful of Envirotek. Smoke is remarkably lessened (although still to smell the smoke kung french fries nga talaga!), pull on the mid RPM range is perceived except that again, it takes more than a 3-km trip to hit optimum engine temperature.
(price to mixture ratio: ~P0.65:liter)

It appears Envirotek is the most cost efficient (not the biodiesel additive itself) but I have yet to consume the full tank to find out mileage/liter, overall effect on fuel system, and engine performance.

When the diesel engine does not hit optimum temperature in short trips (gas engines warm up faster compared to diesel engines), my observation is fuel consumption increases, particularly so with Bravo and Envirotek Biodiesel. Also with these two, it seems that not until warmed up to half the optimum engine temperature, the engine is grumpy and the growl of a diesel combustion is very audible a la the diesel chatter of an Isuzu engine.

Combustion sound is the same with a cold and a warmed up engine with plain Shell Diesoline. Pull is consistent in all RPM ranges.

Also, parang vitamins ang thinking ko about additives. I don't mix them with plain petrol diesel at all times (lalo na when prices shot up beyond the P20/liter mark). Plain Diesoline is satisfactory enough.

Would anyone have the same observations?

Cheers!

[Dieseler]

Dati naloko na ako ng mga Fuel Additives na yan, namely Duralube and co. lol! All I can say is, sayang ang pera mo dito.

Nowadays, I just use Synthetic or a good quality mineral oil, biodiesel, and fill up in a reputable gasoline station.


For biodiesel naman, here are some experiences:

I used Esterol Biodiesel for around 2-3 years na. Heck, when I drove to Tuguegarao, I had a bottle with me, since I don't trust provincial gas stations.

A few months ago, I used a liter or two of biodiesel and then went to have my ride checked sa emission testing center. My result was 0.4. Pati nga yung nag test kamot ulo bakit daw walang maduming usok lol kala sira ride ko. To compare, before I stated using biodiesel, nung bago pa Aventure ko, I had it tested din, and the value is around 1.7! Imagine, bago pa 1.7 na, eh the max. limit is 2.5.

And as AlbertB said, it takes longer for the engine to heat up. IMHO, this is better, as long as we drive slowly, huwag lang biglang hataw. A cooler running engine is good, since it lessens wear and tear (on everything!) and fuel consumption.

Goes to show, biodiesel works, and I'd love to help give our country some clean air for a change. One less pollutant is still one less!

[ILuvDetailing]

one last question sir, how much is it in the market? per liter po ba availability nito? lastly, san po may makikita nito? tnx again.

Last time I checked its around 450 / li. but that was early last year, I bought it at CASH along Jose Abad Santos. FYI Our Adventure was a 2003 SS A/T, Petrol version.

[jvdejesus05]

Last time I checked its around 450 / li. but that was early last year, I bought it at CASH along Jose Abad Santos. FYI Our Adventure was a 2003 SS A/T, Petrol version.

thanks a lot sir.

[Bogeyman]

Sir Raffy, basta dala mo na yung fuel and air filter, pakabit na lang sa Shell. Service na lang yung binayaran ko sa casa. Hindi ko na din muna pinalinis yung aircon, since me kilala naman kaming taga-Mitsu who can do it for half the price ng sa casa. Yun nga lang, nakalimutan kong magpapalit ng gear oil. Baka sa 25k PMS na.

[likot]

sa caltex ako nag didiesel do i need 2 shift sa shell kasi may nabasa ako kapag sa caltex sobrang pinapausok tambutso??? worid ako 05 gls sport ang ride ko! isa pa pong question ano po ba ang corerct tire pressure sa front and rear, kasi check ko sakin bakit naka 44psi lahat dapat ko bang bawasan ang unahan tanx u sa lahat ng magrereply...

[Bogeyman]

I don't know about Caltex, pero ok naman siguro ang Shell. My father-in-law used to gas up sa Shell for his diesel Adventure, pero nag-switch siya to Petron eventually. Sabi daw kasi, maganda ang Shell for gasoline, tapos Petron naman ang dapat kung diesel.

Sa tire pressure mo naman, dapat mo ngang bawasan yung sa harap. Going by the manufacturer's specs, 25psi sa harap, 30psi sa likod. Nakasulat yan sa door frame, katabi ng driver's seat.

Dati ganyan din ako, 45 psi sa lahat ng gulong. Eh sabi ng casa masyado daw matigas yung ride pag ganun. Kaya ang ginagawa ko these days, 30psi sa harap, tapos 36psi sa likod. Para kahit fully loaded yung sasakyan, hindi lulubog yung likuran. Tsaka maganda rin kasing tignan yung stance ng sasakyan na nakaangat yung likod.

[likot]

I don't know about Caltex, pero ok naman siguro ang Shell. My father-in-law used to gas up sa Shell for his diesel Adventure, pero nag-switch siya to Petron eventually. Sabi daw kasi, maganda ang Shell for gasoline, tapos Petron naman ang dapat kung diesel.

Sa tire pressure mo naman, dapat mo ngang bawasan yung sa harap. Going by the manufacturer's specs, 25psi sa harap, 30psi sa likod. Nakasulat yan sa door frame, katabi ng driver's seat.

Dati ganyan din ako, 45 psi sa lahat ng gulong. Eh sabi ng casa masyado daw matigas yung ride pag ganun. Kaya ang ginagawa ko these days, 30psi sa harap, tapos 36psi sa likod. Para kahit fully loaded yung sasakyan, hindi lulubog yung likuran. Tsaka maganda rin kasing tignan yung stance ng sasakyan na nakaangat yung likod.

tanxs a lot now i kno kung ilan ang tire pressure ko dapat!!! di ba masyadong malambot ang ganyan???

[Bogeyman]

Hindi naman. Medyo aalon-alon na siya pagdating sa humps, unlike yung jarring movement kapag sobrang taas ng tire pressure. Tsaka masama kung sobra/kulang yung tire pressure mo kasi nagiging uneven yung wear ng goma.

Kung nalalambutan ka sa specified pressure, dagdagan mo ng konti. Okay na sa kin yung 30psi front and 36psi rear, since dalawa lang naman kami ni misis ang nakasakay palagi. Huwag mo na lang paabutin ng 40psi, lalo na kung hindi naman ganun kadami ang nakasakay sa Adventure mo araw-araw. Para mas ma-appreciate mo na rin yung improved suspension ng ride mo.