Installing a Turbo Intercooler sa 4d56 engine?!..

[TOiNk-19-]

Mga sir anu po ba mga mods na gagawin pag naglagay po ako ng turbo charger and intercooler sa 4d56 na 02 adventure?..

Or any mods na pwedeng gawin parang mag increase ang torque and max speed?..

Gusto ku lang po kasi madagdagan ang torque and speed niya eh..

Para po makapagpalit ng tires and mags.. And hindi po nakakainip sa long drives..

Ngayon po all stock po siya except for the 6 ply bridgestone dueler tire.. 125kph max niya ang tagal pa po and hirap na hirap na..

Thanks in advance mga sir..

[Bogeyman]

I drive an '04 Adventure diesel, and I can still put up with its shortcomings, considering how reliable the 4D56 is. Anyway, there's this guy who claims to have slapped on a turbo on his Adventure's 4D56 engine, without modifying the internals. I don't know if his unit is still running as of this posting.

I referred the matter to a couple of tsikoteers who might be knowledgeable about the topic, and their response was that it's easy to slap a turbo on a stock 4D56 -- doing it as well as Mitsubishi's engineers is another matter entirely. By way of comparison, a 4D56T has different pistons and injection pump, plus an oil cooler and plumbing for turbo cooling.

You can either go through the trouble (and the expense) of turbocharging your Adventure and put up with dodgy reliability, or you can just sell your unit and get yourself a nice SUV with a factory-built, properly engineered CRDi powerplant for your peace of mind.

As far as improving your engine's performance goes, have you tried injector cleaning? Recalibration? Or maybe using biodiesel?

[TOiNk-19-]

I drive an '04 Adventure diesel, and I can still put up with its shortcomings, considering how reliable the 4D56 is. Anyway, there's this guy who claims to have slapped on a turbo on his Adventure's 4D56 engine, without modifying the internals. I don't know if his unit is still running as of this posting.

I referred the matter to a couple of tsikoteers who might be knowledgeable about the topic, and their response was that it's easy to slap a turbo on a stock 4D56 -- doing it as well as Mitsubishi's engineers is another matter entirely. By way of comparison, a 4D56T has different pistons and injection pump, plus an oil cooler and plumbing for turbo cooling.

You can either go through the trouble (and the expense) of turbocharging your Adventure and put up with dodgy reliability, or you can just sell your unit and get yourself a nice SUV with a factory-built, properly engineered CRDi powerplant for your peace of mind.

As far as improving your engine's performance goes, have you tried injector cleaning? Recalibration? Or maybe using biodiesel?

Thanks for the reply sir.. Yes po na try ko na po Biodiesel but not pa yung injector cleaning and re calibration.. Also ok lang po ba pag freeway naka pako lang ako sa 3.5rpm?

Ayoko na po sana ibenta yung advie eh.. Once kumuha na ng starex grx gagawin ku na po siyang toy van..Iba po kasi yung dating niya for me pag mabihisan and may senti value po siya sakin,, Hahaha! Nagbabakasakali lang if makakakuha po ako ng additional torque and top speed para po if ever mag palit ako ng mags and tires.. Thanks po ulit..

[TOiNk-19-]

I drive an '04 Adventure diesel, and I can still put up with its shortcomings, considering how reliable the 4D56 is. Anyway, there's this guy who claims to have slapped on a turbo on his Adventure's 4D56 engine, without modifying the internals. I don't know if his unit is still running as of this posting.

I referred the matter to a couple of tsikoteers who might be knowledgeable about the topic, and their response was that it's easy to slap a turbo on a stock 4D56 -- doing it as well as Mitsubishi's engineers is another matter entirely. By way of comparison, a 4D56T has different pistons and injection pump, plus an oil cooler and plumbing for turbo cooling.

You can either go through the trouble (and the expense) of turbocharging your Adventure and put up with dodgy reliability, or you can just sell your unit and get yourself a nice SUV with a factory-built, properly engineered CRDi powerplant for your peace of mind.

As far as improving your engine's performance goes, have you tried injector cleaning? Recalibration? Or maybe using biodiesel?

Thanks for the reply sir.. Yes po na try ko na po Biodiesel but not pa yung injector cleaning and re calibration.. Also ok lang po ba pag freeway naka pako lang ako sa 3.5rpm?

Ayoko na po sana ibenta yung advie eh.. Once kumuha na ng starex grx gagawin ku na po siyang toy van..Iba po kasi yung dating niya for me pag mabihisan and may senti value po siya sakin,, Hahaha! Nagbabakasakali lang if makakakuha po ako ng additional torque and top speed para po if ever mag palit ako ng mags and tires.. Thanks po ulit..

[rion]

I think you can install without modifying your internals. use the sportivo low charge turbo. the compressor is very small and Isuzu did not change the internals of this engine.

intercooler? well if there is such a mini intercooler, then you can. or mag salpak ka ng maraming heat sinker from cpu, video cards sa intake tube. hehe...

or better use a methanol injection instead.

[TOiNk-19-]

I think you can install without modifying your internals. use the sportivo low charge turbo. the compressor is very small and Isuzu did not change the internals of this engine.

intercooler? well if there is such a mini intercooler, then you can. or mag salpak ka ng maraming heat sinker from cpu, video cards sa intake tube. hehe...

or better use a methanol injection instead.

How about sir yung headers, free flow muffler like yung mods ni sir drave and free flow muffler?

What po kaya specs nung headers? Yung air filter po ba, filters lang po pinalitan or yung intake tube ba yun(yung silver po)? And yung muffler po iingau din po ba yun or pwedeng hindi? Hehe! Sorry po for the noobs questions?...

[rion]

I have no idea regarding intake and exhaust upgrades. sorry.

if you could pull through a low charge turbo with the exhaust, oil and water plumbing, then your adventure will be one of a kind.

[RAC Tech]

Mga sir anu po ba mga mods na gagawin pag naglagay po ako ng turbo charger and intercooler sa 4d56 na 02 adventure?..

Or any mods na pwedeng gawin parang mag increase ang torque and max speed?..

Gusto ku lang po kasi madagdagan ang torque and speed niya eh..

Para po makapagpalit ng tires and mags.. And hindi po nakakainip sa long drives..

Ngayon po all stock po siya except for the 6 ply bridgestone dueler tire.. 125kph max niya ang tagal pa po and hirap na hirap na..

Thanks in advance mga sir..

Bro, ganyan rin problem ko, 4d56 kasi mabagal sa arangkada, ginaya ko yun fuel saver ng blade mahal kasi eh kapiraso lang siya 3,400 na, para sa akin dapat tawag sa kanya Torque enhancer kasi para ka ng nka 4JA1 based on my Experience konti lang fuel saving niya, napansin ko agad ang haba ng 2ndGear ko bigay na bigay ba. Ang trabaho lang naman niya ay i distribute ng equal ang hangin sa intake. Be sure pag ginaya mo di siya mahihigop sa loob otherwise sira ang engine. Mga pampasaherong Jeep dito sa area namin meron niyan gawa sa yero...

[TOiNk-19-]

Bro, ganyan rin problem ko, 4d56 kasi mabagal sa arangkada, ginaya ko yun fuel saver ng blade mahal kasi eh kapiraso lang siya 3,400 na, para sa akin dapat tawag sa kanya Torque enhancer kasi para ka ng nka 4JA1 based on my Experience konti lang fuel saving niya, napansin ko agad ang haba ng 2ndGear ko bigay na bigay ba. Ang trabaho lang naman niya ay i distribute ng equal ang hangin sa intake. Be sure pag ginaya mo di siya mahihigop sa loob otherwise sira ang engine. Mga pampasaherong Jeep dito sa area namin meron niyan gawa sa yero...

Thanks sir.. Na try niyo na din po ba sa rekta sir?

[rion]

Bro, ganyan rin problem ko, 4d56 kasi mabagal sa arangkada, ginaya ko yun fuel saver ng blade mahal kasi eh kapiraso lang siya 3,400 na, para sa akin dapat tawag sa kanya Torque enhancer kasi para ka ng nka 4JA1 based on my Experience konti lang fuel saving niya, napansin ko agad ang haba ng 2ndGear ko bigay na bigay ba. Ang trabaho lang naman niya ay i distribute ng equal ang hangin sa intake. Be sure pag ginaya mo di siya mahihigop sa loob otherwise sira ang engine. Mga pampasaherong Jeep dito sa area namin meron niyan gawa sa yero...

I'm skeptic about that bro. if you look at the fuel saving thread may explaination dun galing sa experts from tsikot and references from other sites.

Okei po sir.. San po kaya maganda performance shop na makipagusap for aditional advices? And low charge charger lang po ba ok na? Hindi na kailangan yung sa mga starex?

sorry bro, I really have no idea how it will turn out. sabi ko nga, your ride will be one of a kind because I have yet to know someone have installed it.

about the starex oilcooler, I think you have a certainty of installing it successfuly. since based from Diesel_Torque's good experience na yun. and your best shop for that will be speedlab as he also recommend it. you can also pm sir speedyfix for advices. btw, may oil cooler din from 4d56 turbo pajero (just distinguish the oil cooler, NOT the atf oil cooler)

[alwayz_yummy]

eto tandaan mo: not all 4d56 are the same..

sa internals yan magkakatalo...turbo charged 4d56 have a sturdier internal components to than 4d56NA..

tanda ko A B C rating nung piston, rings,etc...

just like 4JA1, the "turbo" that the matic crosswinds and new sportivos/xwinds are just low-charged--kaya halos 2 hp lang gain.. iba ang real 4JA1-T.

so kung gusto mo talagang lagyan ng turbo 4d56 mo, either, get a 4d56 from a 4wd strada, delica, 4x2 spacegear, pajero..

pero ako, kung may adventure ako, nakow i would ditch that 4d56 for a 4M40/4M41 Did hehehe..

just remember, kung gusto mo i-turbo mo stock 4d56NA ng adventure mo, hanap ka ng LPT(light pressure turbo) compressor, boost controller, oil lines, water lines..kahit wala nang intercooler kasi LPT naman...

for the meantime, just be contented with the "turbo" badge/emblem and pajero's "intercooler turbo" and "intercooler turbo2800" side body stickers..

and ipunin mo nalang pera mo for engine transplant or engine change...wag ka na pauto sa mga fuel savers,etc...just maintain mo to top condition ang makina, alam min mo ang power characteristics ng engine, di ka mapapahiya nyan...

ps: sisi nga ako binenta ko pa delica ko noon... kaya alam ko power at maintenance din ng 4d56...

[TOiNk-19-]

eto tandaan mo: not all 4d56 are the same..

sa internals yan magkakatalo...turbo charged 4d56 have a sturdier internal components to than 4d56NA..

tanda ko A B C rating nung piston, rings,etc...

just like 4JA1, the "turbo" that the matic crosswinds and new sportivos/xwinds are just low-charged--kaya halos 2 hp lang gain.. iba ang real 4JA1-T.

so kung gusto mo talagang lagyan ng turbo 4d56 mo, either, get a 4d56 from a 4wd strada, delica, 4x2 spacegear, pajero..

pero ako, kung may adventure ako, nakow i would ditch that 4d56 for a 4M40/4M41 Did hehehe..

just remember, kung gusto mo i-turbo mo stock 4d56NA ng adventure mo, hanap ka ng LPT(light pressure turbo) compressor, boost controller, oil lines, water lines..kahit wala nang intercooler kasi LPT naman...

for the meantime, just be contented with the "turbo" badge/emblem and pajero's "intercooler turbo" and "intercooler turbo2800" side body stickers..

and ipunin mo nalang pera mo for engine transplant or engine change...wag ka na pauto sa mga fuel savers,etc...just maintain mo to top condition ang makina, alam min mo ang power characteristics ng engine, di ka mapapahiya nyan...

ps: sisi nga ako binenta ko pa delica ko noon... kaya alam ko power at maintenance din ng 4d56...

Thanks sir.. Siguro po palitan ku nalang air intake.. Ok na po yun.. Yung methanol injection hindi ko po ma figure out ang gagawin sa engine ko eh.. Kelangan pa ng container something.. Haha! Then hayaan ko nalang po muna the rest stock.. Although pag tinopak baka try ko yung methanol injection.. Less smoke daw po, less consumption sa krudo and more gain daw po yun..

Tapos pag nagpalit po ako ng air intake.. Kung 5000km po palit ko ng langis magiging 4000km nalang po diba!?

Nga pala sir talking about delica.. Yan po gamit ng bro ko yung space gear(delica).. Grabe nga power noon.. Haha!

[TOiNk-19-]

I'm skeptic about that bro. if you look at the fuel saving thread may explaination dun galing sa experts from tsikot and references from other sites.



sorry bro, I really have no idea how it will turn out. sabi ko nga, your ride will be one of a kind because I have yet to know someone have installed it.

about the starex oilcooler, I think you have a certainty of installing it successfuly. since based from Diesel_Torque's good experience na yun. and your best shop for that will be speedlab as he also recommend it. you can also pm sir speedyfix for advices. btw, may oil cooler din from 4d56 turbo pajero (just distinguish the oil cooler, NOT the atf oil cooler)

Thanks po sir.. Kanina po dumaan na ako sa speedlab.. Baka po buy next week unahin ku na po yung air intake.. Then bahala na po sa methanol injection.. Ang sabi niya po kasi.. Ramdam na daw po yung gain sa intake eh.. Ayun po..

[sic.zero]

How much yung mga sinasabi nyong upgrades?