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    Guys hindi ako sure kung sa lahat na to, pero pa 20K PMS na yungstrada ko so bumili na ko ng Royal Purple oil ko kasi alam ko for Oil Change na ko eh, tsaka ng K&N air filter. Pagdating ko sa Jabez (Dasmarinas Mitsu Casa) Hindi na daw pwede ang owner's oil and parts since 2 months ago. Kung palalagay ko raw yung parts ko e papatungan nila ng 30% surcharge. So sabi ko lipat na lang ako, so opunta ako ng Peak (Edsa corner Roxas Mitsu Casa). Ganun din daw ang new policy nila.

    Sa lahat ng casa ganito na ba ang new rule? parang ang labo naman at mukhang gusto lang mangwarta ng Mitsu dahil dito. If ever saan pang casa kaya pwede ang owner's oil and parts, otherwise sa suking talyer na lang ako papa PMS, saksak nila sa baga nila yung warranty nila :P tutal 1 year na lang naman eh :D

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    ^^^ Hindi lang sa Mitsu bro.,- pati sa ibang mga casa,- nagiging ganyan na rin ang patakaran....

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    Ganyan kahit saan, kahit anong make. Void warranty kung sa iba mo papagawa ang PMS. Kaya malakas loob mag-overprice ng CASA, alam nilang mapipilitan ang brand new car owners na sa kanila magpaservice. ;)

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    i really don't get why you bring your own oil. eh pano kung yun oil na yun ang culprit or gawin nilang scapegoat in case mag-malfunction ang tsikot nyo after the PMS.

    sa kakarampot na dagdag sa presyo ng CASA, kinukuripot nyo pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    i really don't get why you bring your own oil. eh pano kung yun oil na yun ang culprit or gawin nilang scapegoat in case mag-malfunction ang tsikot nyo after the PMS.

    sa kakarampot na dagdag sa presyo ng CASA, kinukuripot nyo pa.
    minsan hindi kasi presyo ang problema. but the quality of oil and filter. if they have oil na comparable to Royal Purple yung spec, im sure TS wouldnt mind using that oil.

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    does it really matter? the brand. been driving cars for more than 15 years now, iba't ibang kotse na nahawakan, ngaun lang ako narinig ng ganito. race car driver ba yun TS

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    Sir. kaka 1K PMS ko lang. Pinayagan ako ng UMC Otis na magdala ng sariling oil at oil filter, kaso Mitsubishi brand din from El Dorado. Kung sa kanila ako kumuha ng items, aabot ng 3700 ang gastos ko. Nasa 2K lahat ng nabili ko kay El Dorado + 48 pesos lang sa casa ang binayaran ko para sa rags.

    Sa inquiry ko naman, sa Diamond Motors Quezon Ave at Diamond Motors Greenhills tumatanggap sila ng any brand na provided ng customer without any additional charges. Last week ako tumawag sa kanila.

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    in my case wala pa naman ganyan experience sa carworld marilao, kasi if they wont allow me to bring my parts and let me watch, talagang hindi ako magpapagawa. pero medyo matagal na yung huling visit ko sa casa, last year pa, ako na kasi nagpeperform ng check up

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    pag under waranty pa auto nyo..dapat lahat ng inilalagay na oil is yung oem nung auto nyo,para d ma void ang warranty, pero minsan pinapalusot ito ng service agent. sa carworld pampanga ako nagpapa service at once na nagdala ka ng sarili mong oil, may surcharge kang 30% ng price nung oil na binili mo at may possibility na mavoid ang waranty ng engine..ito explanation sakin last time nung gusto kong ibang oil gamitin, sa air filter naman pwede raw yung aftermarket basta drop in at walang ginalaw sa air intake oem ducting

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    Quote Originally Posted by MokoWebworks View Post
    Guys hindi ako sure kung sa lahat na to, pero pa 20K PMS na yungstrada ko so bumili na ko ng Royal Purple oil ko kasi alam ko for Oil Change na ko eh, tsaka ng K&N air filter. Pagdating ko sa Jabez (Dasmarinas Mitsu Casa) Hindi na daw pwede ang owner's oil and parts since 2 months ago. Kung palalagay ko raw yung parts ko e papatungan nila ng 30% surcharge. So sabi ko lipat na lang ako, so opunta ako ng Peak (Edsa corner Roxas Mitsu Casa). Ganun din daw ang new policy nila.

    Sa lahat ng casa ganito na ba ang new rule? parang ang labo naman at mukhang gusto lang mangwarta ng Mitsu dahil dito. If ever saan pang casa kaya pwede ang owner's oil and parts, otherwise sa suking talyer na lang ako papa PMS, saksak nila sa baga nila yung warranty nila :P tutal 1 year na lang naman eh :D
    strictly speaking, if i were the casa, i would have replied, "ok, you may use the oil you brought, but i will void your warranty. i do not know what's in that oilcan of yours."
    because if you take a really hard look at it, warranty-wise, it would be the casa who is taking the gamble and not the car owner..
    please don't get me wrong. i also have a car. i also pinch pennies. i also don't like it. but the casa does have a point...
    and do you know the happiest event in the course of ownership of my car? it is when i bring it to the gas station for an oil change after the third year!
    Last edited by dr. d; July 13th, 2012 at 06:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ...and do you know the happiest event in the course of ownership of my car? it is when i bring it to the gas station for an oil change after the third year!
    I agree.

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    What's interesting to me is the fact that until recently, they allowed owners to bring their own oil. Kung risk ang paguusapan, what changed? Kung dati pwede ngayon hindi na, eh same car naman, same owner-brought-oil, same process, same technicians... kaya tuloy madaling isipin na hindi naman talaga warranty ang issue and see it to be more of money/business related policy.

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    ^^^
    strongly agree

    Its purely for business reason rather than warranty issue.

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    so, will we still bring your under-warranty car to the casa for the periodic PMS? despite the oil corkage fee?
    if yes, why?
    if no, why not?
    me? of course i'll still bring it to the casa! how much more will i spend, and how much do i stand to lose just in case?...
    a general once said, "we must measure what we may lose, by what we can gain".
    think of it as a 3-year insurance policy.. and we have to pay the premiums.
    Last edited by dr. d; July 15th, 2012 at 07:55 PM.

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    No restaurant will allow you to bring your own foods same thing with casas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perrydel View Post
    No restaurant will allow you to bring your own foods same thing with casas.
    Guys na check nyo ba ang specs ng nilalagay nilang oil sa car nyo. Baka naman ang oil specification ay minimum requirement lang ng makina then ang charge ay premium na. Sure ito ay business issue not warranty. sinabi sa manual ang minimum oil specs so kung ang dala mong oil ay higher bakit ma void ang warranty??

    Believe it or not I feel the engine of our cars performed better when I was the one doing the PMS than when they were done by the stealership (casa). I can fill up the best oil grade & change the oil/fuel filters to the best quality I can afford. O ma pantayan ba ng casa yan without adding cost? In several instances I have to re-bleed the brake hydraulic system dahil hindi na bleed ng mabuti sa casa after the regular PMS After 10K odo I keep my distance from the casa, never mind that warranty, marami dyan ay sasabihin limited lang po hindi kasama sa regular warranty coverage. ek, ek.

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    Whether you bring to casa or not, it's a risk. But for me, when I got my new vehicle a few months ago, I never went back to the Casa for PMS, I just follow the recommended interval and let my trusted gas station or shop to do the works.

    Kaya ganyan mga casa Dahil sa service malakas ang Kita at raket. If they rely on the number of car units sold, di sila mabubuhay dun. Nasa aftersales/ service ang bulk ng Kita nila.

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    ^ that's very true. As long as my unit/s are covered with comprehensive insurance & I do the regular PMS according to the manual & running hours then its ok. After all the insurance is my partner in paying the repair bills if ever. Ito pa, pag may damage ang car kailangan iprove sa casa na ang damage ay due to mechanical or quality issue and not due to abuse of use. Pero paano mo ma explain ang "abuse" na pag gamit? At end iinit lang ang ulo mo sa paki pag argue dyan sa service advisor.
    Last edited by weisshorn; July 17th, 2012 at 12:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    At end iinit lang ang ulo mo sa paki pag argue dyan sa service advisor.
    +1000 with this.. the time my dad bought his montero he never went back to the casa doon na siya sa trusted mechanic niya, dami kasi tanong ni erpat sa casa technician di rin nasasagot. and by the time I bought my suv well Im having it service sa casa since they let me bring my own oil and parts no SURCHARGE whatsoever plus they let me watch too so thats a big thumbs up for me... in the end of the day its always business.

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    Mitsu casa in las pinas halos makipag girian ako sa SA nung 1k PMS ko ni hindi ko daw pwede silipin yung sasakyan ko habang "tinatrabaho" nila. Muntik pa d isoli yung natitirang langis na dala ko. Buti na lang nakalimutan nila ako i-charge ng "surcharge" for bringing my own "trusty mineral oil" compared sa "synthetic" oil nila!

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