Inquiry: Pajero 3 Door Automatic Trans

[marwen]

Hi diesel guru's,

I need some info with the 3 Door Pajero 91 Automatic Transmission converted.

1. Do automatic trans use gear oil? if yes how many liters and what type of oil. What is the change interval?

2. What type of Automatic Transmission Fluid usually suits the Pajero and how many liters? What is the recommended brand.

3. How can i determine if my ATF is still good, since this is a converted unit, the seller told me that they put a new ATF but since i really cannot trust the seller i wana know if its really a new ATF.


Pasensiya na po.. wala kasi akong manual and wala na akong ibang mapagtanungan kundi sa forum lang.. kung merong manual ang dealer baka japanese naman..

thanks in advance..

marwen

[OTEP]

marwen,

The transmission (and the power steering) uses ATF (auto trans fluid). The transfer case, front and rear differentials use gear oil. I will check the volumes later. It is in my owner's manual.

Shell ATF is pretty good. Pero the ones from Caltex and Petron are basically just as good.

New ATF is colored red/pink. There is no real way of seeing if it is any good. Maybe you can drain a small amount to see the condition kung may mga metal flakes, other fluids mixed in, etc.

[marwen]

thanks for the quick reply... tanong po ulit sir Otep... Power Steering uses ATF too.. diba may Power Steering Fluid din... kasi sa Power Steering Fluid im using STP eh.. pwede din pala ATF?

[OTEP]

Noong inimbento ang power steering, wala pang power steering fluid. Kaya designed to run on ATF ang mga ito (dahil may ATF na nung panahong iyon and suitable ito for use sa hydraulic systems). Sa mga ibang newer cars lang (Honda Civic, etc.) kailangan gumamit ng PS Fluid. Halos lahat ATF pa din. Kahit yung MB100 namin, ATF pa din ang gamit sa PS.

Pero no harm naman if you use PSF on an ATF system. Huwag lang siguro ATF on a PSF system. I'm not an expert on this so don't take my word for it.

Nasa manual kasi lahat iyan. Tiga saan ka ba? Baka gusto mo na lang ipa-xerox ang manual ko.

[Ry_Tower]

Noong inimbento ang power steering, wala pang power steering fluid. Kaya designed to run on ATF ang mga ito (dahil may ATF na nung panahong iyon and suitable ito for use sa hydraulic systems). Sa mga ibang newer cars lang (Honda Civic, etc.) kailangan gumamit ng PS Fluid. Halos lahat ATF pa din. Kahit yung MB100 namin, ATF pa din ang gamit sa PS.

Pero no harm naman if you use PSF on an ATF system. Huwag lang siguro ATF on a PSF system. I'm not an expert on this so don't take my word for it.

Nasa manual kasi lahat iyan. Tiga saan ka ba? Baka gusto mo na lang ipa-xerox ang manual ko.

Boss OTEP. - request sana me ng manual ng 2.8 pajero if meron ka. La bang downloadable file nyan>

[marwen]

thanks .... very well explained... layo ko kasi nasa Cebu City.... may soft copy ka ba nyan.. or ano kaya post mo na lang as HTML sa tsikot.. naks nag request pa.. he.he.. anyway thank you po sir.. if ever ma post yung manual .. pa PM na lang ako he.he.. kahit no manual napo tanong na lang ako sa inyo.. salamat ulit

[OTEP]

Sa Casa wala bang manual? Alam ko meron pero medyo mahal. hehehe.

Wala ako soft copy kasi yung scanner ko hindi gumagana. Pero click mo yung Pajero forums sa signature ko, may soft copy ata sila nung Pajero parts catalog na gamit sa casa. Hindi ko alam tawag sa program na yun. Basta nandun lahat ng parts at part numbers.

[DeltaBravo]

dagdag ko lang...

kapag kulay brown na ang ATF fluid ay palitan mo na....
kapag amoy sunog ang ATF fluid medyo paghandaan mo na ang gastos sa automatic transmission mo... :roll:

[OTEP]

DeltaBravo,

Hehehe. Tama, nakasunog na kami ng A/T dati. Tumagas pala fluid kaya 'kumatok' habang nasa EDSA.

[marwen]

he.he.. medyo kulay dede pa naman eh he.he yung may pagka pink he.he. pina check up ko na rin sabi naman nung mechaniko pwede pa raw..

[jackaroo]

marwen,
1) Check ATF level on the dipstick with the engine at idle, should see a level for cold and hot.
2) Better to use the hot level, after a long drive, as an overall gauge on ATF quantity since overfilling the auto tranny is also not good.
3) ATF comes in different grades, usually, dexron 2D or 3. Try the later dex3 and see if shifts smoother.

[Field Master]

Pajero Experts need your advise.
what is the capacity of pajero gen 2.5 automatic transmission fluid. Papalitan ko kasi transfer case support ko at isasabay ko na yung fluid. Ilang liter ba ang kailangan kong bilin. From what I know you don't have to drain all the fluids at one time dahil may natitira pa sa reservoir. Meron na bang nakapagpalit nito? Kailangan ko lang malaman dahil sa eldorado ako bibili. Thanks in advance.

[Field Master]

Another thing, magkaiba pala reservoir ng ATF at transfercase (4WD). For pajero with Automatic Transmission equipped with 4WD, what is the type of fluid for 4WD transfercase ? Is it Gear Oil or ATF?

[rlp1099]

HAYNES recommends (all models i.e 4g54, V6, 4d56, 4mf40):

ATF
Dexron II or Mercon ATF
Capacity (approx)
'86-earlier models= 3.7 ltrs.
'87-later models= 5.1 ltrs

Transfer Case lubricant
SAE 80/90W GL-5 gear lubricant
Capacity (approx) 2.4 ltrs

[Field Master]

Hi RLP1099, Thanks, seems that you have your haynes in your pocket all the time.

Can somebody make a comments on Transfercase lubricant (SAE 80/90W..) if this is applicable also for engine with Auto Transmission. From what I heard kung manual daw ang ride Gear Oil or lubricant daw ang nilalagay. Pero kung A/T, ATF (Dexron II) din daw ang nilalagay sa Transfer Case? For those who changed Transfercase Fluid with A/T ano nilagay ninyo?
Sir PK nagpalit ka na ba?

[OTEP]

Magkaiba ang fluid ng transmission sa transfer case as per our Mitsubishi Montero manual

[Ry_Tower]

Just want to ask how liter/s of ATF to use for power steering of Paj gen2 4m40 subic? i want to change every fluids kc and the manual is japanese

[rlp1099]

Haynes katabi matulog...hehehe

AT fluid (for all models)
Dexron II or Mercon ATF
Capacity
'86-earlier model= 3.7 ltrs.
'87-later models= 5.1 ltrs

Manual Tranny lubricant (all models)
SAE 80/90W GL-5 lubricant
Capacity (approx) 2.4 ltrs

[Field Master]

Hi RLP, OTEP, thanks.. OK so Fluid in AT tranny is clear as crystal as ATF (Dexron II/Mecron) but for TCase haynes and mits manual require Gear Oil. The question now is yun Gear Oil sa transfercase applicable din ba kung auto tranny. If one will inspect the construction of AT and TCase under the hood looks like the AT and TCASE fluid/oil has the tendency to mix somewhere although they have different filling nut. The axle that passes on both system could also be filled with oil from these two. So ano nga kaya ang oil sa transfercase for Auto tranny Pajero Gen 2.5. Pasensya na at talagang naguluhan lang ako.
I asked casa on this at iba iba ang sagot nila some use ATF (Las Pinas) but makati and marcos ave recommend SAE90, di naman daw nila masyado pinapalitan ito dahil di naman daw madalas gamitin ang 4wd sa pinas. Ano ba talaga, share naman yun may personal experience on changing Tcase fluid with Auto tranny.

[Skywalker]

The tranfer case always use gear oil regardless if it's connected to an A/T or M/T.