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  1. luckytruck
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    April 27th, 2004 10:05 AM #1
    guys, i know that it is probably in the manual, pero di ko mahanap manual ko

    can you guys help me decipher the positions on the 4x4 shifter of the pajero gen 2? what is on ths shifter again?

    2H, 4H, 4HL, 4L, 4LLc?

    tama ba yon? what do the 4HL and 4LLc mean? when do we use it?

    thanks,

    andy
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    April 27th, 2004 10:20 AM #2
    2H - Rear Drive
    4H - 4WD High - On road AWD. Use for greater traction on wet highways

    4HLc - 4WD High, Locked Center Differential - Use for driving in sandy surfaces and snow/ice.

    N - Neutral (transfercase in neutral)

    4LLc - 4 Low - Low gear, for demanding 4x4 situations like mud, climbing etc.
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    April 27th, 2004 02:08 PM #3
    pajerokid, thanks. when you say locked center diferential, does that mean that both left and rigt tires will turn regards less of what happens? hindi parang sa F150 ko na kung nakaangat ang isang gulong, it just keeps spinning and the other tire doesn't turn.

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    April 27th, 2004 02:53 PM #4
    Lucky Center Diff Lang....hindi yung rear diff mismo
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    April 27th, 2004 02:56 PM #5
    Don't get confused with locked center differential from your transfer case and differential locks from diff/axle ends.

    Locked center diff manipulates power transfer front to rear towards prop shaft only. While differential locks perform by locking the left and right tire during traction slippage.
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    April 27th, 2004 03:18 PM #6
    Lucky, tama sila. The center diff is there so that you can enjoy your 4WD onroad. Kung walang center diff or some similar device (conventional 4x4), you will encounter a condition called binding, wherein mahihirapan lumiko ang truck mo (among other symptoms). That's because roads are pretty 'makapit' and often do not provide enough slip for the tires to rotate for themselves (hence the need for a center diff).

    Instinct na sakin ang paggamit ng 4H kapag umuulan. Better traction nga.

    And meron akong theory (which of course could be false).... keeping your ride in 4H reduces brake locking. Diba, if you brake to the point of locking, kung gumagana ang 4WD, it will make the tires spin again.

    Logical but again, just a theory.

    Hehe! In any case, Oki talaga SS4!!!
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    April 27th, 2004 04:08 PM #7
    Can't have the best of both worlds in one rig, tough luck for some like ours who doesn't have SS4.
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    April 27th, 2004 04:15 PM #8
    anung SS4?.hehehehe
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    April 27th, 2004 04:33 PM #9
    okay, now i get it. so kailangan pa talaga ng manual differential locks/lockers ang pajero para and left and right side wil lock and walang gulong na magspin lang sa hangin

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    April 27th, 2004 04:40 PM #10
    SS4 = Super Select 4WD

    Jon, Oks lang yun! Pang heavy duty naman yung sa inyo e!
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    April 27th, 2004 05:06 PM #11
    ahhhh..

    un bagong safari ba hinde padin SS4?
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    April 27th, 2004 05:20 PM #12
    Kasi Trademark ng Mitsubishi yon hehe ;) Kaw talaga Odell!
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    April 27th, 2004 05:30 PM #13
    sorry po.haha.. malay mo gayahin.. ganyan naman diba.. nagkakagayanahan ng styles. hehehehe
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    April 27th, 2004 05:45 PM #14
    Youre forgiven hehe ;) Di ka naman mabiro.
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    April 28th, 2004 08:56 AM #15
    d newer 4x4 also have shift on the fly 4x4 na din like the grand vitara where u can engage to 4h upto 100kph. kaunti na lanh kc now yung 4x4 na lever type pa. most now are push button type.
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    April 28th, 2004 10:14 AM #16
    anybody know of anyone who put lockers on their pajero?

    diba mahal din yon?

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    April 28th, 2004 05:52 PM #17
    ARB makes only rear air lockers for the Pajero. It costs around Php 50K total.

    Some Aussie folks at www.4x4wire.com have put in mechanical lockers (Detroit locker) in the front and rear with some fabrication work. Armark sells mechanical lockers locally. But I don't think they will fit straight into the Pajero.

    2H and 4H can be used on-road irregardless of road conditions. If you simultaneously lose traction on one wheel at each axle (e.g. diagonally opossed ones) even with the C/D locked, you will still get stuck.

    Some manufacturers, like Suzuki, tout that their systems can be shifted on the fly even at high speeds. However, they have no center differentials and are not designed for use on asphalt or any high traction surfaces. They will still bind when you turn.

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    April 28th, 2004 06:27 PM #18
    wow, mahal pala ng lockers. mags and tires muna siguro

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    April 28th, 2004 06:35 PM #19
    Yung sa Gen1 ba since no center diffs pag nag 4H ako sa Highway may binding?
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    April 28th, 2004 10:23 PM #20
    frt,

    Yes. Even in a straight line, there will be some driveline stress. Not enough to be felt by the driver, but the vehicle will still feel it.

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