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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Have a question about the use of "an".

    What was taught back then was to only use "an" when the beginning letter of the proceeding word starts with a vowel.

    But I read somewhere that if the proceeding word's first character is pronounced with a vowel (e.g. MMDA) you should still use "an" even though it is a consonant.

    A MMDA officer apprehended me.

    or

    An MMDA officer apprehended me.

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    #2
    you're right M2

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    #3
    What RedHorse said.

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    An MMDA officer... is right.

    A YMCA hotel... is right.

    Your rule is right.

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    yeh Mazdamazda is right.

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    If it sounds right then go with it.

    For more tips look for the booklet by Strunk and White at the bookstore.

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    Simple and most common example is "an hour".

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    yeah tagal ko na den gusto sabihin yan ehehe.

    An MMDA officer sounds so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ts1n1ta
    yeah tagal ko na den gusto sabihin yan ehehe.

    An MMDA officer sounds so much better.

    Depende pa rin sa gamit.

    Tulad halimbawa kapag tinutukoy mo yung FIA Official ng Formula 1:

    "A FIA Official penalized Juan Pablo Montoya for ignoring a blue flag".

    So yung sa MMDA naman, pwede ring:

    "A MMDA officer apprehended me". You pronounce this as:

    "A mmmm-da officer apprehended me".

    (sori ha, kakabasa ko lang kse yung katulong jokes dun sa isang thread dito sa Tsikot hehe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane
    Depende pa rin sa gamit.

    Tulad halimbawa kapag tinutukoy mo yung FIA Official ng Formula 1:

    "A FIA Official penalized Juan Pablo Montoya for ignoring a blue flag".
    isn't it pronounced as EF-AY-EY?

    unless you pronounce it as FI-YA (which shouldn't be the case since it is an acronym).

    Quote Originally Posted by EL Chicane
    "A MMDA officer apprehended me". You pronounce this as:

    "A mmmm-da officer apprehended me".
    MMMM-DA?

    isn't it pronounced as EM-EM-DI-EY?

    so in both cases... the use of a vowel to pronounce the first syllable is required (and hence requires the use of "an").

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    isn't it pronounced as EF-AY-EY?
    unless you pronounce it as FI-YA (which shouldn't be the case since it is an acronym).

    MMMM-DA?

    isn't it pronounced as EM-EM-DI-EY?

    so in both cases... the use of a vowel to pronounce the first syllable is required (and hence requires the use of "an").
    Suri man gid, kuya.

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    But I read somewhere that if the proceeding word's first character is pronounced with a vowel (e.g. MMDA) you should still use "an" even though it is a consonant.
    This is correct.

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    hmmm. honga no?
    pero sa akin ginagawa ko, i try to read it aloud. kung pangit pakinggan, malamang mali. hehehehe.

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    My weakness is compound subjects

    Example I get confused on whether to use makes or make because both sound right (katulad niyan sound right ba or sounds right) HAHAHA

    Having my family, friends and job makes me happy.
    Having my family, friends and job make me happy.

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    Don't use compound subjects.

    It is easier to describe your happiness with examples or with elaborations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Don't use compound subjects.

    It is easier to describe your happiness with examples or with elaborations.
    Not just with happiness basta compound subjects hirap ako. Also when to use is or are kapag plural, mahirap kasi yung if it's plural but treated as singular

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Not just with happiness basta compound subjects hirap ako. Also when to use is or are kapag plural, mahirap kasi yung if it's plural but treated as singular
    yeah plurality is a challenge. especially now that we're in front of computers drafting all these messages LOL

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    #18
    an ukulele

    or

    a ukulele?


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    #19
    Quote Originally Posted by mantoy
    an ukulele

    or

    a ukulele?

    hmmm... mukhang ganun rin pala yata for vowels... kapag pronounced as consonant yung una... dapat "a" naman ang gamitin...

    hehehe... :D

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    #20
    You should use “an” before a word beginning with an “H” only if the “H” is not pronounced: “an honest effort”; it’s properly “a historic event” though many sophisticated speakers somehow prefer the sound of “an historic,” so that version is not likely to get you into any real trouble.

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