What do you believe in? Evolution or creationism?

**OTO** · April 16th, 2005 08:40 PM

Do you believe in the Holy Bible story of how God created the world in 6 days or Darwin's Theory of Evolution?

**ILuvDetailing** · April 16th, 2005 08:53 PM

I believe in the bible

**BlueGirl** · April 16th, 2005 09:09 PM

i believe in the bible too...

**OTO** · April 16th, 2005 09:14 PM

^^ pssst there's a poll. vote po kayo. ;)

**yebo** · April 16th, 2005 09:56 PM

evolution but by God's will.

yung bible story of creation e folk tale yun ng mga jews how the world was created, just much like the filipino folk tale story of "malakas at maganda". different peoples have different ways of telling the story of their origins, but the theme is the same - God created us and the universe. in fact kung buhay si darwin nung panahon na sinulat ang book of genesis e di totally different story ang mababasa natin sa bible.

**mazdamazda** · April 16th, 2005 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

evolution but by God's will.

ganyan din paniwala ko.

the surprising thing is that... scientists are still having a hard time pinpointing the exact "species" man was before he became homo sapien. though there are numerous ape like creatures but they are not that linked to modern man. seems that man just popped out of nowhere...

you just can't imagine how all things came to be without someone molding it all.

**Alpha_One** · January 22nd, 2006 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by mazdamazda

ganyan din paniwala ko.

the surprising thing is that... scientists are still having a hard time pinpointing the exact "species" man was before he became homo sapien. though there are numerous ape like creatures but they are not that linked to modern man. seems that man just popped out of nowhere...

you just can't imagine how all things came to be without someone molding it all.

Ditto.

**niky** · January 22nd, 2006 02:53 AM

The problem with looking for man's precursor is that there are none left... the species has evolved into us. And fossil records are naturally spotty. Some species just plain lived in areas and conditions that did not foster fossil formation. Also, evolution is not always slow. Species in isolation can undergo extremely quick development given the right conditions.

While I may be a God fearing man, I don't believe in Genesis literally. Even the Catholic Church has released a missive stating that Darwin's Theory in no way contradicts the teachings of the Bible. Genesis is an allegorical fable regarding the role of the Creator, and should be taken as such.

As for evidence... as one engineer once said: "Give me the tools, and I can design a better man." If you want to see evidence of Man's roots, look at yourself.

I have a newborn daughter, and every time I look at her, I think it's wonderful that we've become so sophisticated, given such humble roots. When you stroke her hands, she grips your finger. Know why? That reflex enabled our ancestors to cling to the fur of their mothers.

When you stroke her feet, her toes curl and try to cling to your finger. (And they succeed to some extent, my daughter has very long toes).

This is from a time when our feet could grasp, like most tree-borne primates' feet. And this reflex happens for the same reason that the hand reflex does, to grasp the fur of the mother as she carries the baby around.

These wonderful arms of ours developed from our tree-swinging ancestors, have a terrific degree of motion. For a savannah creature, which early man was, they made no sense before he found out about weapons.

And there are many other things about man that point to his humble origins. Vestigial body hair, from the time we needed it for warmth in the trees. We only lost the rest of it when we started to walk the savannah... where excessive body hair was a hindrance.

Our legs have developed for walking, but they are not optimal for it yet. Our feet are too big, our legs are too short. We don't need the extreme flexibility of our hip joints for walking, either. Our thighs are too long and our shanks are too short. Our lungs could be bigger, our bones should be lighter. Our teeth are not fully adjusted to our diet of meat yet, and we still possess the capacity to eat vegetation (even though our ancestors were primarily hunters)... but our gut is not as well developed as an herbivore's either. The appendix is a vestigial organ that may have helped us digest vegetation in the past, but does nothing now.

Man is a work in progress. And when I look at my baby, I often wonder what her great great grandchildren will look like.

I do want to believe in a Creator... but is it so hard to believe he could create something as wonderful as Evolution?

**mazdamazda** · January 24th, 2006 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

evolution but by God's will.

yung bible story of creation e folk tale yun ng mga jews how the world was created, just much like the filipino folk tale story of "malakas at maganda". different peoples have different ways of telling the story of their origins, but the theme is the same - God created us and the universe. in fact kung buhay si darwin nung panahon na sinulat ang book of genesis e di totally different story ang mababasa natin sa bible.

let me dig up yebo's old post... I believe many Christians (including me) feel the same way.

some of you might be trying to make this an atheist versus Christian thing. let us just stick to the topic.