Boycott Greenhills move launched; pabor ka ba dito?

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Boycott Greenhills move launched

Updated 10:19pm (Mla time) Oct 13, 2004
By Ruth Navarra
Inquirer News Service



Editor's Note: Published on page A19 of the October 14, 2004 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer.


IN AN effort to stop the opening of what they called a "mosque," the Federation of Greenhills Associations of San Juan has launched a campaign to boycott the shopping center.

In a newsletter dated October 2004, the federation said that they should do everything to make Ortigas & Co. reconsider its decision to build a "mosque."

The newsletter disclosed plans of officers of the three Greenhills homeowners associations to launch legal actions, demonstrations and a boycott of the Greenhills Shopping Center.

The newsletter was signed by Carlos Yam, chair and president of Northeast Greenhills Association; Don Alviar, president, and Preciosa Soliven, chair of North Greenhills Association; and Crisanto Sy, president, and George Barcelon, chair of West Greenhills Association.

They urged all residents to join the boycott if they do not want Greenhills "to be the next Quiapo or Taguig where we will be living in perpetual fear for our lives."

They cited that there was no building permit issued for the "mosque," which is actually a prayer room.

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ang sa akin...
bakit nila hinayaan muna kasi dumami ang muslim sa lugar nila tapos ngayon takot sila maging the next Quiapo or Taguig?? :freak:

[mazdamazda]

religious discrimination???

heck, their fellow "christians" are the ones committing most of the crime here in Manila.

[jim]

pag prayer room ng kristyano yan ok lang sa kanila pero ngayon muslim prayer room ayaw nila. hay wala talagang magagawang kabutihan ang relihiyon kung ganyan ang mga tao tsk tsk tsk.....

[mazdamazda]

Originally posted by jim
pag prayer room ng kristyano yan ok lang sa kanila pero ngayon muslim prayer room ayaw nila. hay wala talagang magagawang kabutihan ang relihiyon kung ganyan ang mga tao tsk tsk tsk.....

a similar thing happened to us before....

we asked the village association if we could purchase one of the vacant lots / park so that we can relocate our chuch there. they said yes but asked us if it would be a catholic church. we then said no, and then they suddenly "remembered" that there is a law requiring villages to have this so-and-so open / park space.

[1D4LV]

imho, bakit sila takot sa mga muslim? subukan mong tanggalin mga muslim dyan sa greenhills, tignan natin kung hindi bumagsak yang greenhills, dahil imho, most ng vendors dyan ay muslims.

i would like to agree with what mazda2 said. "mostly, crimes here in manila are being done by the christians/catholics...."



OT: mazda2, hayuf sa avatar ah. hehehehe.

[the_wildthing]

Hmmm... I wouldn't want to discriminate against our Muslim brothers. After all, we're all human.

Surely for every bad Muslim there is probably one or more bad Catholic/Christian/etc. And there are also good people, Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

[dyelibins]

kahit naman wala pa mosque in that area dami na Muslims doon kasi karamihan ng mga traders sa shopping center, mga Muslims. i don't see any reason why they have to oppose it's opening when, in fact, mosques are worship places of Muslims. respect lang sa faith ng ating mga brother Muslims.

i think the Muslims pray 5x/day. i just think that karapatan nila na magdasal sa sambahan nila kung oras ng panalangin nila, away from the crowd, just like the devout Catholics na araw-araw din nagpupunta sa simbahan para mag dasal ng rosary or mag novena.

if this Federation of Greenhills Associations of San Juan is concerned sa security ng area nila, then maybe they should coordinate with the head of the Muslims and check on the possibility na maglagay ng security post nearby or whatever.

opinyon lang po.

[McLeor]

mas OK pala ginawa ni Mao Tse Tung nung araw when he said "Religion is Poison"...He took away all beliefs of the mainland chinese during the closed-china era.

Discriminating the Muslim? Why is that so?? What if kung baligtad naman...kaya lumalala ang conflict tuloy eh.

[zero]

ang nakakatakot nyan, baka may radical muslim na magalit sa move nilang ito at pasabugin ang bagong greenhills chapel sa gitna ng shopping mall. baka hindi lang maging Quiapo/Taguig ang greenhills, baka maging Iraq!!??

matahimik naman naghahanap buhay ang mga muslim brothers natin dito bakit pa nila ginigipit o pino-provoke sila dahil sa isang simpleng prayer room for them. hindi naman pala sa bulsa nila manggagaling ang gastos. Ortigas Company, who runs the mall, naman daw naman ang magpapagawa nito.

let's hope na hindi lumala ang problem na ito.

[odell]

tska ang dame na nila dun para pigilan pa at this time.

[Bogeyman]

Kung takot silang magiging magulo sa Greenhills, they should improve their security. Halos lahat ng guards na nakikita ko, hindi man lang marunong tumingin ng bomba. Konting halukay lang sa bag mo, ok na. Kaya tayo nalulusutan eh.

I'm all for the mosque/prayer room for our brother Muslims. Logical lang naman siguro ito kasi madalas talaga madasal ang mga Muslim sa isang araw, and it would certainly be a big help if they have even a small place of worship near their source of livelihood. Napaka self-righteous namang magsalita ng mga taga-Greenhills Pederasyon na 'yan. Kristiyano din ako, pero hindi naman lahat ng Kristiyano mabuti e.

[OTEP]

Case to case na din siguro iyan. Dito sa barangay namin, pinakamaraming gulo sa Muslim compound.

I'm not one to their blame religion for what is going on. Siguro marami lang mga hindi naturuan ng wasto. Pati police station sa amin napa-ulanan na ng bala in a shootout with people (residents?) from the compound.

Ok lang naman sakin kung may mosque sa Greenhills.

Basta madami pa ding cute chinitas na nagsho-shopping.

[ang labo ba ng post ko? :lol: ]

[theveed]

Basta may relihyon may gulo...

[pajerokid]

Glenn, Dati pa nila gusto alisin ang mga muslim vendors sa greenhills. Wala pang dibidi nuon. Kaso the vendors threatened to blow up greenhills. So ano pa magagawa ng management eh di mag-relent. Like it or not, call me a bigot, pero iba talaga magisip ang mga yan. You dont want to bump into one the wrong way.

Sa akin lang, dapat wag nang lagyan yan, anyways, they have a prayer area there already... yung sa may David's Tea House.

[McLeor]

Minsan din kase typecasted na kapag muslim ka eh magulo ka, blame it to 30 yrs of insurgency sa mindanao...and never ending war sa mid east..kaya tuloy ang mentality nga eh di na mababago.....

Trivial lang, sa China, ang Catholics have no place, di sila recognized ng state, madalas nga hinuhuli sila ng illegal assembly... kaya walang bishop duon, ayaw pumayag ng Beijing, katwiran nila eh masyadong political ito. Pero Moslems are allowed. So tignan ninyo, its the opposite of what was going on with Greenhills..

Sa singapore and malaysia, all religion blends well..bakit ganun...

Hirap naman, parang pansit, ang gulo...

[quindoyos]

Originally posted by McLeor
Minsan din kase typecasted na kapag muslim ka eh magulo ka, blame it to 30 yrs of insurgency sa mindanao...and never ending war sa mid east..kaya tuloy ang mentality nga eh di na mababago.....

Trivial lang, sa China, ang Catholics have no place, di sila recognized ng state, madalas nga hinuhuli sila ng illegal assembly... kaya walang bishop duon, ayaw pumayag ng Beijing, katwiran nila eh masyadong political ito. Pero Moslems are allowed. So tignan ninyo, its the opposite of what was going on with Greenhills..

Sa singapore and malaysia, all religion blends well..bakit ganun...

Hirap naman, parang pansit, ang gulo...

sir,

the muslim problem is not an insurgency. it's a separatist/seccessionist movement (MILF) and an extremist (Abu Sayyaf Group).

i've been to places that are dominated by our brother muslims in Mindanao and there seems to be no problem with co existing with Christians; and vice versa.

if there's a Catholic Church right smack the middle of greenhills shopping area, i don't see the reason why they should forbid putting up a mosque or a prayer room.

most likely, they woudn't bomb the place kasi nandun mga pagari nila.

[qman]

tagal ng me moske roon di nga lang ganoon kaganda nasa sulok. Nang mag renovate ang GH nag lagay na rin sila ng katolikong simbahan ganda pa nga airconditioned at garden ang harap.

Dapat lang na pagandahin din ang sa mga muslim. Actually daanan nga iyon eh na nilagyan nila ng partition at nilatagan nila ng carpet.

[roninblade]

tingin ko ang problema ng mga homeowners dyan is kapag naglagay sila ng mosque dyan eh hindi lang yung mga current muslim population ng greenhills ang pupunta. it will be a beacon to other muslims; syempre dyan na sila pupunta since it will be the only one in the area (correct me if im wrong here); that means kasama na yung mga unwanted elements dun sa dadalaw.

[Bogeyman]

Muslims can also say the same wherever there are churches around. Case in point: Quiapo church. Andaming nabibiktima diyan, either by snatchers or pickpockets. May mga na-assassinate na sa harap ng simbahan, may mga simbahang nasunog, may mga simbahan mismo na ninanakawan. Kahit saang may simbahan na open to the public, pag may nagsisimba, meron ding mga masasamang elementong nakaabang.

Funny how supposedly educated people (certain Greenhills homeowners and Federation members) can reason out sometimes....

[doublea]

"The religion is for People. The Country is for All" ang sabi sa akin ng isang Egyptian when I asked him, how is the relationship of Moslem and Christians in Egypt. Wala raw issue sa kanila ang religion. When it is Christmas, nakikipasko sila sa mga Christians and vise versa.

For me, having a mosque in Greenhills is a no issue as long as it would be their place for worship. It is time to siguro for Moslem and Christian to blend well socially and religiously.