Are filipino values still applicable?

[gearhead]

Had a discussion with a friend and it seems that we are now heading for a smaller Global Village. More and more of us as well are finding ourselves in foreign soil. And we interact more with peopleof different nationalities.

Are concepts like "pakikisama", "utang na loob", etc. antiquated? Or have they become all the more relevant?

Some obviously take some beliefs like "utang na loob" to the hilt as well. Is this warranted? Should it be tempered to suit the times and conditions?

[Flagg]

AFAIK, pinaka-outstanding Pinoy "value" is pinakamagaling tayo manligaw.

Diba yung unang Ms. Universe, pinoy yung asawa?

[Altis6453]

I think the Filipino value of "utang na loob" is very Asian. It's still very much applicable. Just ask American or even European businessmen. They'll tell you that if you stick it out with an asian partner despite the bad times, they'll most likely do business with when things are going good because of this.

[uls]

i would not consider utang na loob as a value. Values are always positive.

Utang na loob is more a trait. Like "bahala na" and "ningas cogon"

the dark side of utang na loob:
Private individuals/companies fund politicians' election campaign, politicians win, politicians protect the interests of the individuals/companies who helped them win.

People use the utang na loob tactic to lay guilt trips on other people.

Like if a person moves ahead in life, those left behind use guilt trips as means of extortion.

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Be wary of people who are too eager to help. Down the line, they will use it against u

[Flagg]

...Be wary of people who are too eager to help. Down the line, they will use it against u

Hmm, better this than no help at all.

[uls]

friendships and family ties that go bad usually have this as a root cause

when u owe someone a favor and u are unable to return the favor when asked, u just made urself a new enemy

[MAXBUWAYA]

Be wary of people who are too eager to help. Down the line, they will use it against u

Yup very true.



I dont know if this is value

But Filipino Close Family Ties for me is not good for us.

Sa mga Barrio o depress area, sobrang close ng family hindi na umaalis ang anak sa puder ng magulang, yung magulang na nagtratrabaho habangbuhay hanggang mamatay. hehehehehe

Plus Mga kamaganak na mahilig mangutang pag siningil mo galit pa! hehehehe

[uls]

I dont know if this is value

But Filipino Close Family Ties for me is not good for us.

Sa mga Barrio o depress area, sobrang close ng family hindi na umaalis ang anak sa puder ng magulang, yung magulang na nagtratrabaho habangbuhay hanggang mamatay. hehehehehe

Plus Mga kamaganak na mahilig mangutang pag siningil mo galit pa! hehehehe

Filipino close family ties has good and bad sides.

Good side is people always have someone to depend on. That's why we have low suicide rate and high gross national happiness (GNH)

Bad side is it breeds laziness. Having people to depend on encourages sitting at home all day. One breadwinner for every 6 to 10 family members... plus extended family?

and yes... pag di ka nag pautang, magagalit sila sau

[VtEC]

Yup very true.


Sa mga Barrio o depress area, sobrang close ng family hindi na umaalis ang anak sa puder ng magulang, yung magulang na nagtratrabaho habangbuhay hanggang mamatay. hehehehehe

Plus Mga kamaganak na mahilig mangutang pag siningil mo galit pa! hehehehe

ha ha ha , this maybe better than tossing your oldies to home for the aged.

[ejr]

Plus Mga kamaganak na mahilig mangutang pag siningil mo galit pa! hehehehe

eto ang tumpak na tumpak he he he . . . pero hindi yung kamag anak ko kundi yung ke misis . . . sabi sa bonus daw babayadan. eh ang nakalimutan kong itanung eh kung kailang bonus Nov.2007 o June2008 o Nov.2008 baka mas matagal pa dun.

[CVT]

I believe that some shades of them still are applicable, especially if you're dealing with your Asian counterparts.

However, everyone's acting in a global manner, so being up to date and conversant with the latest trends in technology (since we're a technology company), assertiveness, take-charge attitude, being proactive as opposed to being reactive and a good command of the English language should always be an advantage, in our case, since our HQ is in the US.

4505:vader: