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    Surprise! US diplomat subjected to body search

    Mar 30, 2005
    Updated 01:24am (Mla time)
    Nikko Dizon
    Inquirer News Service

    WE'RE not mad; we just got even.

    A top-ranking American diplomat made no protest yesterday morning when airport security personnel frisked him as soon as he stepped into the presidential lounge of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Centennial Terminal.

    Ambassador Christopher Hill, the newly appointed assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific Affairs, looked surprised but smiled and raised his arms as he was scanned with a metal detector and subjected to a body check.

    During Holy Week, the Philippines formally protested the alleged harassment of Senator Luisa “Loi” Ejercito Estrada at the San Francisco International Airport on March 20.

    The senator complained that she was detained for one-and-a-half hours at the airport and asked such questions as whether she thought her husband, former President Joseph Estrada, would be convicted of plunder.

    Various US entities, as well as US Ambassador Francis Ricciardone, offered their apologies and regrets over the incident.

    Part of security

    A source at the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) who was at the presidential lounge said the body check on Hill was a way for Filipinos to get even for the American immigration officials' crude treatment of Ejercito.

    However, Senate President Franklin Drilon did not think the incident had anything to do with what happened to Ejercito.

    "That's just part of the airport's security measures. I don't think it had something to do with what happened to Senator Loi," he said.

    Yesterday, at least three security personnel approached Hill for a body check when he arrived at the NAIA presidential lounge for a brief press conference before leaving for Thailand on board a Philippine Airlines flight.

    Instead of making a big fuss, Hill, the top US State Department representative in Asia, was obliging and quipped: "The TSA (US Transportation Security Administration) will be very happy."

    Even Hill's special assistant, James Wayman, and US Embassy counsel for political affairs, Scott Douglas Bellard, allowed themselves to be searched by airport security.

    No special treatment

    "Well, I just think that proves that there's no special treatment given," Ruth Nikola Urry, deputy press attaché of the US State Department, later told reporters when asked for comment.

    Hill again underwent a final security check before boarding his flight.

    Currently the US ambassador to Seoul, South Korea, Hill will officially assume his duties in Washington next month. He replaces James A. Kelly who resigned from the post in January this year.

    Hill, who met with President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo, reiterated America's support for her government.

    Listen and learn

    "It's really been a great pleasure to come here and to see the strength of this relationship, the strength of this alliance. I was very pleased to have this opportunity to meet with the political leadership here," Hill said at the press conference.

    Hill said terrorism and the US travel advisories recently issued by Washington were among the issues he discussed with Ms Arroyo. When asked by reporters to give details, he declined to elaborate.

    "We were able discuss these issues. I want to emphasize the fact that I was really here on a listen and learn mission. So for me, it was an opportunity to hear from the Filipino government what its problems are, how they see the problems, and how they see the challenges that they face in light of these recent travel advisories," he said.

    Hill declined to comment on reports that the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) would be included in the US list of foreign terrorists.

    A prominent figure in the talks on the North Korean nuclear issue, Hill stressed the commitment of the United States to the six-party process.

    "We feel this is the best way to address the problem posed by the nuclear problem in North Korea. We are prepared to have a very serious and very dedicated negotiation in ridding the Korean peninsula of these weapons. The trouble is we can't be negotiating with an empty chair so we have to encourage-all of us have to encourage-getting the North Korean staff to the table," Hill said. With a report from TJ Burgonio

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    Mr Hill has the right attitude. Just because he is a VIP, he didn't make a big fuss on the search. That's the right attitude we pinoys should have. That's the big problem with pinoy, if you got money and if your in position, you take advantage of it and you feel you deserve all these priviledges that you get from your country when you are in another.

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    was it correct to get even? what if the US will also get even, this time not in immigration but by not helping us?

    it all started with a stupid reaction by a personality that thinks that they are untouchables. lot of b*&^s*&t.

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    hahaha. we did not get even, nag mukha tayo talagang mga savages compared sa kanila.

    parang pinalabas ng US official , nakapamahanging mga Opisyal natin dito, opisyal ng isang malapit na maging banana republic.

    siguro dapat mahiya sina drilon at estrada *cough* *cough* dahil sa ugali nila sa mga tao na gumagawa lang ng dapat nila gawin

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or5
    Mr Hill has the right attitude. Just because he is a VIP, he didn't make a big fuss on the search. That's the right attitude we pinoys should have. That's the big problem with pinoy, if you got money and if your in position, you take advantage of it and you feel you deserve all these priviledges that you get from your country when you are in another.
    very well said!

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    it all started wid LOI! hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or5
    Mr Hill has the right attitude. Just because he is a VIP, he didn't make a big fuss on the search. That's the right attitude we pinoys should have. That's the big problem with pinoy, if you got money and if your in position, you take advantage of it and you feel you deserve all these priviledges that you get from your country when you are in another.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    I just hope that they did it because they were highly suspicious of the individual that made them search him to the fullest. But if it was done due to malicious intent of trying to strike back for what the US immigration has done to Senator Estrada, then I don't think it would be ethical nor judicious to do something like that. Just a very shallow thing to do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8or5
    Mr Hill has the right attitude. Just because he is a VIP, he didn't make a big fuss on the search. That's the right attitude we pinoys should have. That's the big problem with pinoy, if you got money and if your in position, you take advantage of it and you feel you deserve all these priviledges that you get from your country when you are in another.
    Well said and I am in agreement.

    The problem with Pinoys who have some sort of "position" think that they should be given privelages "fit for a king". Masyadong mayayabang. IMHO, Pinoys who are "given powers' often think that they are entitled whatever caprichos they would like, and require to be pampered. Sadly, only politicians from third-world countries and some other banana republics out there have this mentality. Last month, my companion and I got bumped from a flight going to Legaspi because some a****hole policitians needs to get on that plane because he is "late for an important meeting". When we did get to Legaspi the next day, we found out the alleged real story: the politician wants to get on the plane because he is running late for his tee-off time.

    I've traveled with nationals from the US and Europe who are among the who's-who in the NGO sector and they have nary a fuss when they get security checked. However, the other third-world nationalities that I had traveled with (including Pinoys) make a fuss on the strict security checks at air-ports. There was even one incident where a Pinoy got mad because he was not able to get a chance ticket, that he kicked a garbage bin and told the airport security: "do you know who I am in the Philippines?". The security person answered back: 'Sir, you are not in the Philippines.'

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    kahit naman sa US SOP ang mga ganyan.
    dito lang usal royalties ang mga politicos eh

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    ang nag body search siguro nagpapapel sa mga boss nya, if I were his boss fired siya kaagad, nakakahiya, proud pa sila.

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    nagsayang na naman capital si gloria pala lang ma-appease ang isang walang alam na senador. & to think that mr. hill was inside the vip lounge when the security check was made. halatang-halata naman sila.

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    Well, it backfired on them, maganda naman ang reaction ni Mr. Hill, di katulad ng mga VIPs dito sa atin, puro reklamo. Sana nga every politico that goes to the states be subjected to 12 hrs. interrogation, with questions like,who's paying for their trips.

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    It surely backfired. It just made our people look more proud then they should be.
    When America started taking photos of people arriving from other countries at their immigration lines, I think it was Brazil that did the same thing back to Americans ONLY.

    What did the visiting government officials from the US do? Nothing SMILE! In the end naman we do these things at our terminals because its OUR security we are trying to protect. They do it on their soil, go ahead, its their soil. Even their own Vice-President is not exempt from their own security checks.

    What made ours look bad is that we have high ranking government offiicials, in the newspaper, boasting how it was done for "payback". I mean, security go ahead, for pride of a single senator?

    It would be totally different if Senator Loi arrived in the USA and beforehand gave notice to the Philippine attache in the place of her arrival to give her diplomatic passess, but from what I read, she arrived on a commercial flight with her grandchildren without informing our embassy!

    Even Drilon got pissed a long time ago for being asked to take off his shoe remember? Then when he was asked if he requested to be escorted by the Philippine embassy for some diplomatic courtesy he said he did not and just felt he deserved it being senator!

    We have simple guidelines to follow, well especially in other countries where their rules are strictly enforced. In our airports such bravado can be done out of fear and patronage but in other countries such bravado needs some paperwork too.

    Just being a devil's advocate

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    Quote Originally Posted by falken
    Well, it backfired on them, maganda naman ang reaction ni Mr. Hill, di katulad ng mga VIPs dito sa atin, puro reklamo. Sana nga every politico that goes to the states be subjected to 12 hrs. interrogation, with questions like,who's paying for their trips.
    :bwahaha: Ha ha ha!Oo nga ano?! Dapat gawin na ring ganyan!He he he!!

    Napakahangin nga naman ng mga politicos, senador o congresista, as if hindi alam ng mga taong bayan na binili ang mga botong nakukuha nila, except for a very few politicians na gusto talaga ng mga tao.

    Remember ko lang nung conflict between Senator Jinggoy Estrada and the former Head of the PNP na sinabi pa ni Jinggoy on a privilege speech sa Senate floor na "was it the right way to treat a person holding a high position on public office?" NGEHHH!! Akala mo kung may nakikita ka namang nagawa ng unggoy na ito! Such an airhead, if I may say! I bet ya, if hindi sa pera, hindi siya manalo! Mas saludo pa ako sa PNP head na may nakikita ka talagang list of accomplishments sa RESUME' niya! Yun lang po!
    Last edited by cyberdoc95; March 31st, 2005 at 07:32 AM.

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    bwahaha...parang mga bata tong mga politicians na to :bwahaha:

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    sana nga hindi para balikan lang yung mga amerikano, kaya ginawa yun kundi may good reason talaga behind it. i kinda feel differently, kasi what happend to loi, has already happend to me kaya may empathy ako sa kanya.

    It happend sa Charles de Gaulle airport, after going down the plane and lining up sa immigration, they separated all those with FILIPINO passports, there were about 15 of us, and we were all detained and questioned for the next hour to hour and a half tapos we were released. Alam ko lahat pinoy kasi hiniwalay talaga kami from the line, at nagtataka nga kami kung bakit pinoy passports lang ang hinihiwalay nila. Buti nalang yung kasama ko sa trip magaling mag-french, at in-explain that we were students for an exchange program, ayun medyo nahiya sila at pina-alis kami, naawa ako dun sa iba, kasi hindi talaga sila maka-communicate ng maayos kasi ang labo ng ingles ng frenchies

    Anyways, nakakapraning talaga pag-ganun kasi hindi mu alam kung bakit ka hinihiwalay, baka racism, sana hindi naman but hindi mo pwedeng hindi isipin. Im sure this happens everywhere else, na tsambahan lang si LOI, atleast im happy to think na dahil sa incident na to, mas maayos naman ang pagtrato sa atin sa airport ng dayuhan, tao rin naman kasi tayo.

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    gusto ko rin isipin na kung sa ibang tao nangyari ito, tulad sabihin na natin isang fellow tsikoteer, or highly respected filipino person (say a national artist) na ganyan din ang reaction ng gobyerno natin para ipagtanggol ang pinoy. nakaka-bastos kasi talaga kung sa inyo mangyari yun

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    reresback kami sa inyo!!! yan ba nasaisipan nila nung na security check si Loi? tsk tsk... ano sila mga gangsters? tsk tsk. kawawa naman mga pinoy.

    kung dahil sa security kaya nila ginawa un. ok, tama lang un. e kaso kung para lang maka bawi... hay. kalokohan.

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    Easy guys...
    IMO, hindi related yung nangyari kay Loi at yung nangyari kay Hill. It's a story though.

    Kulang Lang Sa Pansin talaga mga aroganteng officials.

    Chill!

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