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    Ayos itong anti-aircraft weapon ng Sayyaf. Saranggola!




    Sayyaf’s New Weapon: Kites


    The Abu Sayyaf may be using an unlikely weapon to strike at military helicopters and cut the risk of aerial raids on their jungle strongholds: kites.

    A Huey or UH1H helicopter encountered difficulty while flying back at night from a recent combat mission in Jolo after a kite’s thick nylon cord became dangerously entwined in its rotor, Philippine Air Force (PAF) chief Lt. Gen. Horacio Tolentino said yesterday. The pilots had noticed unusual vibrations, and managed to land safely in a Jolo military camp, he said.

    A PAF officer familiar with the incident told The Associated Press that the kite’s cord most probably struck the Vietnam War-era Huey over a sparsely populated mountainous region, from which the aircraft evacuated soldiers wounded during a clash with suspected Abu Sayyaf militants.

    It was unlikely the kite had been flown by ordinary civilians, the officer said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media. Several kites may have been flown, then tied to trees surrounding a rebel encampment as an extra buffer against nighttime air attacks, the officer said.

    “They really have an intention to bring down our helicopters,” Tolentino told the AP.

    After the incident, Tolentino said he instructed pilots to undertake “evasive maneuvers” aimed to protect choppers from kites during landing and takeoff in Jolo, especially at night. Inspectors were deployed to ensure no kites were being flown near air force areas, he said.

    Kite-flying is a popular pastime on Jolo, a predominantly Muslim island where US forces have been providing non-combat assistance to Filipino troops to wipe out Abu Sayyaf militants and a handful of Indonesian militants.

    But residents rarely fly kites at night.

    Kites have been used as a combat tool elsewhere. Insurgents in Iraq’s volatile Ramadi region have flown kites over US troops to align mortar fire, US forces there have said.

    Kites’ potentially lethal power caught the country’s attention last May, when a Huey helicopter crashed on a busy street near an air base in central Cebu province, killing nine people, seven of them on the ground.

    Investigators said the nylon kite cord, which accidentally got coiled in the assembly connecting the main rotor to the aircraft’s body, may have caused the crash.

    Tolentino said the PAF endorsed a bill to Congress that would penalize people who fly kites near airports and air bases nationwide following that deadly accident. – AP

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    ayos to ah. kala ko tirador..

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    Alam ko nung WW2 barrage balloons gamit, hehehe pero ngayon kites

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    Panglaban sa mga "flying coffins" natin (yung mga Huey choppers).
    Last edited by chua_riwap; September 18th, 2007 at 07:40 AM.

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    I don't think kites can stay airborne for long periods of time while being tied to a tree. If a chopper were to come near one, the resulting disruption of the air flow caused by the rotors would most likely cause the kite to fall to the ground.

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    kala ko kites with explosives attached...pero di na lilipad un ehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I don't think kites can stay airborne for long periods of time while being tied to a tree. If a chopper were to come near one, the resulting disruption of the air flow caused by the rotors would most likely cause the kite to fall to the ground.

    You are thinking about toy kites which fly around 50 to 250 meters from the ground. In this case, you can fly a bigger kite with more than 1000 meters of nylon rope and it can stay up for days at a time. The kite itself would be flying much higher than the helicopter. The nylon rope can be very difficult to see in the day time and impossible to spot at night.

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    kahit walang kite babagsak talaga aircraft natin dahil sa mga kawatan na officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuzoom View Post
    kahit walang kite babagsak talaga aircraft natin dahil sa mga kawatan na officials.
    mas maniwala ako dito ... palusot lang yang saranggola na yan ... flying coffins naman talaga ang mga yan

    salamat kay gen. garcia & co. ... multohin sana kayo ng mga namatay na sundalo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuzoom View Post
    kahit walang kite babagsak talaga aircraft natin dahil sa mga kawatan na officials.

    Natawa naman ako rito. Pero tama ka, Bro. Di naman kasi well maintained ang mga military choppers natin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    I don't think kites can stay airborne for long periods of time while being tied to a tree. If a chopper were to come near one, the resulting disruption of the air flow caused by the rotors would most likely cause the kite to fall to the ground.

    Bro, nasubok namin yan noon sa province. Sinubok naming magpa-lipad ng saranggola (yung malaki, tawag Guryon) sa hapon, then napagkaisahan naming huwag ibaba yung kite (katuwaan ba). Iniwan namin over-night, itinali sa sanga (big enough to handle the Guryon) ng puno. Since mahangin, the next morning, andun pa rin, lumilipad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuzoom View Post
    kahit walang kite babagsak talaga aircraft natin dahil sa mga kawatan na officials.
    natatawa ako at naiiyak. Maraming tayo magagaling na young officer na gusto mag pilot sa P.A.F pero yong mga Ogag na Matatanda General Napapasarap. Bakit kaya tamimik yong kaso ni Controler Gen. Garcia? Lintek na Ogag yang Gen. Garcia di makita. Sarap nang bwisit sa buhay mo Sir. Sir malapin na December. At yong bagong nakapasa sa exam sa PMA, pag tapos ninyo sa year 2011 0 2012, padadala namon kayo sa Basilan para may true training naman...bwisit ka Gen. Garcia. ha ayyyy maka punta nga sa Classmate may show cla yong galing sa H.K..GIANT TWIN hehehehe

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    mga soldiers natin nasa basilan war zone......ang mga generals nasa golf course...

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    bumili na lang sila night vision goggles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isuzoom View Post
    mga soldiers natin nasa basilan war zone......ang mga generals nasa golf course...
    Tama! Dapat ang mga generals ang ilagay sa frontlines para malaman nila ang hirap ng mga sundalo natin!

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    Sana imbes na broadband ang unahin mga black hawk man lang..

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    mas nakakahiya siguro kung talagang napabagsak nung cord yung Huey na yun ng PAF :hihihi:

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    dapat may makaimbento ng anti-KITE system

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    Ala talaga,saranggola lng pla katapat ng huey helicopter natin,npanood ko dati sa tv after sa vietnam war hihulog nlng sa dgat ang mga yan pgka landing sa barko,bka napulot at nirecon,tpos e overprice ng mga matataas na opsiyal pra may png bili ng babae,kotse at anong png mga gus2 nila,habang mga sundalo natin nandoon sa frontline buhay ang nka taya.. anway pag walang gyera wlang pera..kaya minsan ma d mo ma iwasan bka sila rin me pakana ng gyera pra may mapa labas na budget...pag me budget ..of korz me makukurakot..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Bro, nasubok namin yan noon sa province. Sinubok naming magpa-lipad ng saranggola (yung malaki, tawag Guryon) sa hapon, then napagkaisahan naming huwag ibaba yung kite (katuwaan ba). Iniwan namin over-night, itinali sa sanga (big enough to handle the Guryon) ng puno. Since mahangin, the next morning, andun pa rin, lumilipad.
    Looks like I was wrong about this one. Pero diba maaapektuhan ng rotor ng chopper ang lipad ng guryon?

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